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Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 09:54 am
Oh, and another thing. You remember Tim McVeigh? He's the Oklahoma federal building bomber. He was an American terrorist, and he was a catholic and member of the ARA.

Why don't you apply your same sensitivity and feeling about that one?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:16 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


I suppose that we New Yorkers can give the counter-finger
to the mosque as we walk by or loudly call out our objections
and opinions of the offenders, and picket them.

We might mention Mohammed; I understand that the MOslems r sensitive about him.

David


Of course you could. That would be the mature thing to do.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:22 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
OSD, You have a funny way to view Muslims;
Have a good laff.



cicerone imposter wrote:
they already had/have places of worship in the WTC area,
and there is also a prayer room for Muslims at the pentagon.
I cannot and will not allege that a pre-existing structure
(b4 9/11) was erected to gloat about an event that had not yet happened. Logic will not permit that.





David
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:26 am
@Intrepid,
OmSigDAVID wrote:


I suppose that we New Yorkers can give the counter-finger
to the mosque as we walk by or loudly call out our objections
and opinions of the offenders, and picket them.

We might mention Mohammed; I understand that the MOslems r sensitive about him.

David
Intrepid wrote:
Of course you could. That would be the mature thing to do.
It woud be a form of revenge, mild tho it is.
Some folks might be inclined to express their sentiments with dynamite.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:26 am
@OmSigDAVID,
What difference does it make? It's not about Muslim's praying? So what feelings does a structure have? Where are all those who have been personally impacted by the WTC who's against this "building?" Are they showing their "feelings against such a structure?"

Why are you so concerned about other's feelings?
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:33 am
@OmSigDAVID,
OmSigDAVID wrote:

OmSigDAVID wrote:


I suppose that we New Yorkers can give the counter-finger
to the mosque as we walk by or loudly call out our objections
and opinions of the offenders, and picket them.

We might mention Mohammed; I understand that the MOslems r sensitive about him.

David
Intrepid wrote:
Of course you could. That would be the mature thing to do.
It woud be a form of revenge, mild tho it is.
Some folks might be inclined to express their sentiments with dynamite.


Revenge on the Muslim population? Why?

Some folks might consider that terrorism.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:38 am
@Intrepid,
I'm just wondering what else OSD considers "revenge?"
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revelette
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 10:43 am
@OmSigDAVID,
Apparently the prayer service not too far from where the plane crashed into the pentagon and it is open for people for all faiths, including Muslims but it started in the year 2002.

Quote:

Actually, there's a chapel, located not too far from where the plane attacked on Sept. 11."

Prior to Sept. 11, 2001, there was no chapel in the Pentagon. The Pentagon Memorial Chapel was dedicated on Sept. 11, 2002 and is home to daily prayer services of all faiths, including Islam.

"We have a wide variety of services," says Wright. "Protestant, Catholic Jewish, Hindu, Mormon, Episcopalian and Muslim. It is not unlike any other military chapel in any other military instillation around the world."

There are few signs of any specific religion inside the 91-seat room. When Muslims come to pray they move the chairs aside, roll out their prayer rugs and face East. The prayer rugs are kept in a storage room behind the altar, along with other religious symbols, such as a cross. Muslims hold services five days a week in the Pentagon Chapel.

"Monday through Thursday there are prayer services led by the group itself, and on Friday there is a worship service and an imam from the local community comes here to lead the service."




source
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:05 am
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

Quote:
Bloomberg n Obama and most Democrats.

Thay r loyal to the enemies of America.


In the context of thoughtful discussion your conclusion stands out like the utterances of Bozo the clown.
I'll not bother to read any more of your posts David.
OK; u might consider use of the Ignore button.





David


Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:07 am
@OmSigDAVID,
And miss out on the comedic value? Why would anyone want to do that?

You have really made a fool of yourself on this thread, Bigot. More so than others in the past, which is frankly a little surprising, as I didn't really consider that to be possible. You've managed to combine bigotry with illogical statements and rank paranoia.

Cycloptichorn
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:07 am
@OmSigDAVID,
MENSA members should realize that one can refrain from answering a poster without having said poster on ignore. You do realize that. Don't you David?
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:35 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

...Where are you and others going on and on about the threat that is presented by White Christians to the people of this nation? Why aren't you raising flags about that stuff?

Cycloptichorn


Why are you not "going on and on" about the way Islamic countries treat their women, compared to western (i.e., "White Christians") treatment of women. Personally, all the radical Moslems could end their jihad with the west, and I believe it would still behoove us to address the way Moslem women are treated. No telling if in a few hundred years our descendants could be living under Sharia law, and I would not want female descendants to be living under their mores for women, in that instance.

Terrorism might just be a diversion from a greater threat to our civilization. The treatment of one-half of the population.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:38 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

...Where are you and others going on and on about the threat that is presented by White Christians to the people of this nation? Why aren't you raising flags about that stuff?

Cycloptichorn


Why are you not "going on and on" about the way Islamic countries treat their women, compared to western (i.e., "White Christians") treatment of women. Personally, all the radical Moslems could end their jihad with the west, and I believe it would still behoove us to address the way Moslem women are treated.


I don't go on and on about it, because in large part Muslim women tell the West to mind it's own ******* business. I used to think that it was my duty to judge how their male-female relations worked, until I learned more about it.

I do rail against abuses of women; stoning to death, ritual scarification, forced marriages et cetera. I have discussed those at length here on A2K.

Quote:
No telling if in a few hundred years our descendants could be living under Sharia law, and I would not want female descendants to be living under their mores for women, in that instance.


There is zero - zero - reason to believe that this will happen. Why should anyone worry about it? You have no conception at all what it would take for such a thing to come about.

Quote:
Terrorism might just be a diversion from a greater threat to our civilization. The treatment of one-half of the population.


Or, this might be an overblown change-of-topic on your part. That seems much more likely.

Cycloptichorn
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:38 am
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

But not statistically relevant. Given the size of our population, even living in NYC, the odds of being killed in a terrorist attack are right up there with getting hit by lightning.

Yet you and others seem to be pretty damn worried about it. I think this is because you have let the terrorists win, in your head.

Cycloptichorn


The terrorists have won, not by their terror I believe, but by dividing our country, since much of the radical left have organized under the banner of "friends of the radical Muslims."

The divisiveness this country is in is not because of the terrorists I believe, but because of the radical left agenda.
JTT
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:46 am
@Foofie,
Quote:
The divisiveness this country is in is not because of the terrorists I believe, but because of the radical left agenda.


There is nothing so radical to a conservative as the truth.
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Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:50 am
@revelette,
revelette wrote:

Apparently the prayer service not too far from where the plane crashed into the pentagon and it is open for people for all faiths, including Muslims but it started in the year 2002.



I thought this Ground Zero mosque was for authentic Muslims only. No ecumenical usage of the mosque, I thought, or touristy visitors. Just a plain mosque.
parados
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:51 am
@Foofie,
It's a cultural center Foofie.

The mosque is one room in a 13 story building.
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 11:54 am
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

But not statistically relevant. Given the size of our population, even living in NYC, the odds of being killed in a terrorist attack are right up there with getting hit by lightning.

Yet you and others seem to be pretty damn worried about it. I think this is because you have let the terrorists win, in your head.

Cycloptichorn


The terrorists have won, not by their terror I believe, but by dividing our country, since much of the radical left have organized under the banner of "friends of the radical Muslims."

The divisiveness this country is in is not because of the terrorists I believe, but because of the radical left agenda.


Bull ****. In what ways are Leftists 'friends of the Radical Muslim?' We are polar opposites to them, whereas you can't say the same about the right-wing in this country, who greatly resembles them and in fact is currently engaged in doing their recruiting work for them.

Cycloptichorn
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 12:10 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Foofie wrote:

Cycloptichorn wrote:

...Where are you and others going on and on about the threat that is presented by White Christians to the people of this nation? Why aren't you raising flags about that stuff?

Cycloptichorn


Why are you not "going on and on" about the way Islamic countries treat their women, compared to western (i.e., "White Christians") treatment of women. Personally, all the radical Moslems could end their jihad with the west, and I believe it would still behoove us to address the way Moslem women are treated.


I don't go on and on about it, because in large part Muslim women tell the West to mind it's own ******* business. I used to think that it was my duty to judge how their male-female relations worked, until I learned more about it.

I do rail against abuses of women; stoning to death, ritual scarification, forced marriages et cetera. I have discussed those at length here on A2K.

Quote:
No telling if in a few hundred years our descendants could be living under Sharia law, and I would not want female descendants to be living under their mores for women, in that instance.


There is zero - zero - reason to believe that this will happen. Why should anyone worry about it? You have no conception at all what it would take for such a thing to come about.

Quote:
Terrorism might just be a diversion from a greater threat to our civilization. The treatment of one-half of the population.


Or, this might be an overblown change-of-topic on your part. That seems much more likely.

Cycloptichorn


You speciously trivialized my comments, I believe.

I do think it behooves the west (i.e., Christians - White, Black, Brown) to try to get Sharia law more in line with current western cultural mores, so future generations of everyone's female descendants will not be treated like chattel. Sort of like another Emancipation Proclamation. The analogy has logic, since the original Emancipation Proclamation was for the "slave states." This newer version could be for the "radical Muslim 'barrios.'"

The benefit of the original Emancipation Proclamation was that it forced the Civil War to be fought until the South was completely defeated and "unconditionally surrendered." In effect, it eliminated the possibility of the South "sueing for peace" which could then have wound up with a festering/lingering slave society somewhere in the continental U.S.

Anyway, I see an analogy between the adversarial relationship, between the North and South, before the Civil War, and radical Islam's adversarial relationship with western mores. Both sides, in both points of history, heard their own respective drummer, so to speak.
Foofie
 
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Reply Thu 19 Aug, 2010 12:12 pm
@parados,
parados wrote:

It's a cultural center Foofie.

The mosque is one room in a 13 story building.


Not my question.
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