Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

@Foofie,

Yeh, but honey, they are there.

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@Foofie,

Well, doppuss*, they live there.

*I forget which nun called us that, probably eighth grade.

Really, get a grip.

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@ossobuco,

ossobuco wrote:

Well, doppuss*, they live there.

*I forget which nun called us that, probably eighth grade.

Really, get a grip.

U coud have honed your correspondence skills,
with a letter of complaint to the Pope, requesting her ex-communication, and demanding a refund
with a cc to her and to her supervisor.

Did u do that ?

David

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Another counter proposal:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2571765/posts

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Let us build a chapel dedicated to Sts. Nunilo and Alodia next to the mosque.

Saints Nunilo and Alodia were a pair of 9th c. virgin martyrs in Huesca, Spain. They were born to a Muslim father and Christian mother. However, they chose their mother’s Christianity.

And so during the Emirate of Abd ar-Rahman II it came to pass that in these little girls were first put in a brothel and then were executed as apostates according to Sharia law.

Their feast day is 22 October.

I think their relics are in the Cathedral of Pamplona, having been translated a couple times.

http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/6469/100816nuniloalodia01.jpg

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Curtis Sliwa this morning, on am radio, questioned why the media is not concerned about "jobs," as much as they seem to be concerned about the mosque at Ground Zero. I believe that he meant, why has the mosque become a national debate, of sorts, when we have such high unemployment and under employment? A more real problem, I believe.

Is the media utilizing the mosque as a diversionary red herring from real problems that face Americans? Conspiracy theorists go to work.

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@gungasnake,

gungasnake wrote:

Another counter proposal:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2571765/posts

Quote:

Let us build a chapel dedicated to Sts. Nunilo and Alodia next to the mosque.

Saints Nunilo and Alodia were a pair of 9th c. virgin martyrs in Huesca, Spain. They were born to a Muslim father and Christian mother. However, they chose their mother’s Christianity.

And so during the Emirate of Abd ar-Rahman II it came to pass that in these little girls were first put in a brothel and then were executed as apostates according to Sharia law.

Their feast day is 22 October.

I think their relics are in the Cathedral of Pamplona, having been translated a couple times.

In line with your post, possibly many of the Catholic faith could ask these two saints, in prayer, for intercession, to stop the mosque from being built at Ground Zero. If the mosque is not built at Ground Zero, it could be taken as a sign of the efficacy of Catholic prayer. If the mosque is built at Ground Zero, it could be taken as a divine sign to be more devout.

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Newt Gingrich really stepped in it this time. If I can find his quote I'll come back and post it here.

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@sumac,

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Mr. Gingrich said the proposed mosque would be a symbol of Muslim “triumphalism” and that building the mosque near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks “would be like putting a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust Museum.”

link

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@sumac,

Newt isn't the only idiot out there. Sarah Palin is no different.

Sarah Palin, who just last week explained to an angry Alaskan that the reason she had left her job as Governor of Alaska was so that she could be out there “fighting for Americans to be able to have the Constitution protected so that we can have free speech” apparently only meant appropriate free speech.

On Friday President Obama came out and publicly supported the building of the mosque in Lower Manhattan in so far as he believes “Muslims have the [same] right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country” as stated in the First Amendment to the Constitution. And then expanded on the remarks yesterday saying he wasn’t weighing in on the wisdom of the decision, merely their right to do so.

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@gungasnake,

Why don't you go build that chapel? If it's so important to you. Please. Go build the chapel.

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Another angle to this story.

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In short, there is no good reason that the Cordoba House project should have been a major national news story, let alone controversy. And yet it has become just that, dominating the political conversation for weeks and prompting such a backlash that, according to a new poll, nearly 7 in 10 Americans now say they oppose the project. How did the Cordoba House become so toxic, so fast?

See Link here

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Good quote, Revelette, thanks.

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@revelette,

revelette wrote:

Quote:
Mr. Gingrich said the proposed mosque would be a symbol of Muslim “triumphalism”
and that building the mosque near the site of the Sept. 11 attacks
“would be like putting a Nazi sign next to the Holocaust Museum.”

link

YES; with an exclamation mark next to it.
It 'd be like building a trophy wall, with the WTC on it,
and with the (figurative) head of each victim on it,
over a big caption that said: "We GOT them! "

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Nonsense.

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@OmSigDAVID,

It was only a matter of time until Godwin's Law came into it.

Um, I am now curious as to what exactly a Nazi sign would look like. Is there such a thing?

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Newt isn't the only idiot out there.
Sarah Palin is no different.

U anti-American leftists
seem to be in a hurry to carry a flag that says on it:
" WHEN PEOPLE OFFEND MY DIGNITY,
I 'M TOO STUPID TO UNDERSTAND THAT THAY DID IT! "

Intrepid wrote:

Sarah Palin, who just last week explained to an angry Alaskan
that the reason she had left her job as Governor of Alaska was so
that she could be out there “fighting for Americans to be able
to have the Constitution protected so that we can have free speech”
apparently only meant appropriate free speech.

That 's right, like no loud obscenity, no false defamations, no declarations
that u have a bom when u r up hi in the sky in an airliner, nor
declarations of robbery while in banks n no screaming in hospitals nor in public libraries.

Intrepid wrote:

On Friday President Obama came out and publicly supported the building of the mosque in Lower Manhattan in so far as he believes “Muslims have the [same] right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country” as stated in the First Amendment to the Constitution. And then expanded on the remarks yesterday saying he wasn’t weighing in on the wisdom of the decision, merely their right to do so. [/i]

The First Amendment, by its own terms, only restrains government.

David

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

It was only a matter of time until Godwin's Law came into it.

As a libertarian: I don 't respect that law.

Intrepid wrote:

Um, I am now curious as to what exactly a Nazi sign would look like. Is there such a thing?

Yes; its a sign written by a nazi,
particularly a swastika.

A picture of a laffing, happy HItler woud express the concept also.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

OmSigDAVID wrote:

Intrepid wrote:
It was only a matter of time until Godwin's Law came into it.
Quote:
As a libertarian: I don 't respect that law.

As a Canadian, I really don't care. In the nicest sort of way.

Intrepid wrote:
Um, I am now curious as to what exactly a Nazi sign would look like. Is there such a thing?
Quote:
Yes; its a sign written by a nazi,
particularly a swastika.

A swastika is not a sign. It is a symbol. I guess you don't know.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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The First Amendment, by its own terms, only restrains government.

I really am amused when so many people don't understand that the amendments to the Constitution refer to the GOVERNMENT, not individuals.
I don't know how many times, on this forum, that I have corrected people who think that freedom of speech means that they can say anything that they want, anywhere that they want.

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On Friday President Obama came out and publicly supported the building of the mosque in Lower Manhattan in so far as he believes “Muslims have the [same] right to practice their religion as anyone else in this country” as stated in the First Amendment to the Constitution.

Obama, by his words, was stating a fact that any kid who had gotten past seventh grade civics should have known already. He appropriately chose not to give his own personal opinion on the subject. I think though, from what I have read subsequently, was that many people considered Obama's remarks a tacit approval of the building of the mosque. It was not. Actually, he was being very clever, and slippery.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

It was only a matter of time until Godwin's Law came into it.

Quote:

As a libertarian: I don 't respect that law.

Intrepid wrote:

As a Canadian, I really don't care. In the nicest sort of way.

The logic of your sentence is untenable,
in light of the fact that (if I remember correctly) Canadia was involved in the war against Hitler
(as part of the English Empire).

Intrepid wrote:

Um, I am now curious as to what exactly a Nazi sign would look like. Is there such a thing?

Quote:

Yes; its a sign written by a nazi,
particularly a swastika.

Intrepid wrote:

A swastika is not a sign. It is a symbol.
I guess you don't know.

YES, I DON 'T.

sign
–noun
1. a token; indication.
2. any object, action, event, pattern, etc., that conveys a meaning.
3. a conventional or arbitrary mark, figure, or symbol used as an abbreviation for the word or words it represents.
4. a motion or gesture used to express or convey an idea, command, decision, etc.: Her nod was a sign that it was time to leave.
5. a notice, bearing a name, direction, warning, or advertisement, that is displayed or posted for public view: a traffic sign; a store sign.
6. a trace; vestige: There wasn't a sign of them.
7. an arbitrary or conventional symbol used in musical notation to indicate tonality, tempo, etc.
8. Medicine/Medical . the objective indications of a disease.
9. any meaningful gestural unit belonging to a sign language.
10. an omen; portent: a sign of approaching decadence.
11. sign of the zodiac.
12. sign language ( def. 1 ) .
13. Usually, signs. traces, as footprints, of a wild animal.
14. Mathematics .
a. a plus sign or minus sign used as a symbol for indicating addition or subtraction.
b. a plus sign or minus sign used as a symbol for indicating the positive or negative value of a quantity, as an integer.
c. multiplication sign.
d. division sign.
e. a symbol, as or !, used to indicate a radical or factorial operation.

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