46
   

Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

 
 
OmSigDAVID
 
  0  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:26 pm

I thawt I saw something in the paper a few days ago
that the governor and the Moslems were trying to work out some different solutions, involving building in a different place.
Irishk
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:35 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
"Emotion" is the wrong justification for anything that is contrary to our Constitution.


Of course, but he didn't say they don't have a right to build it. They do.

cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:37 pm
@Irishk,
But from what you said, you support "emotion" as a justification not to build.
Irishk
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
I support everyone's right to an opinion. I'm not prepared to label Mr. Duffy, or New Yorkers in general, or the majority who oppose building the mosque at the proposed location as bigots or Islamophobes. True bigots would oppose the building of mosques anywhere for any reason, wouldn't they?
ossobuco
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:47 pm
@Irishk,
Actually, the link I gave from the New Yorker a few pages back said that the majority in Manhattan were fine with the proposed center with mosque.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 12:49 pm
@Irishk,
"Opinion" diverges from "emotion." They're both inconsequential to "building a mosque."
Irishk
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:05 pm
@ossobuco,
Osso -- I think I posted the same poll -- from Marist, right?
Irishk
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
"Opinion" diverges from "emotion." They're both inconsequential to "building a mosque.


Totally agree. If the Imam wants to build it there, it will be built.
0 Replies
 
ossobuco
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:10 pm
@Irishk,
Well, the article was from the New Yorker, in the commentary in the Talk of the Town section.
0 Replies
 
JTT
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:16 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
that the governor and the Moslems were trying to work out some different solutions, involving building in a different place.


This illustrates the ignorance, the stupidity, "the Moslems", this one big, throw 'em all in the same bag mentality.
djjd62
 
  2  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 01:23 pm
@JTT,
give him some credit, he could have said "the governor and the terrorists"
0 Replies
 
DrewDad
 
  5  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 04:34 pm
How the "ground zero mosque" fear mongering began
A viciously anti-Muslim blogger, the New York Post and the right-wing media machine: How it all went down


Quote:
...

# Dec. 21, 2009: Conservative media personality Laura Ingraham interviews Abdul Rauf's wife, Daisy Khan, while guest-hosting "The O'Reilly Factor" on Fox. In hindsight, the segment is remarkable for its cordiality. "I can't find many people who really have a problem with it," Ingraham says of the Cordoba project, adding at the end of the interview, "I like what you're trying to do."

# (This segment also includes onscreen the first use that we've seen of the misnomer "ground zero mosque.") After the segment — and despite the front-page Times story — there were no news articles on the mosque for five and a half months, according to a search of the Nexis newspaper archive.


# May 6, 2010: After a unanimous vote by a New York City community board committee to approve the project, the AP runs a story. It quotes relatives of 9/11 victims (called by the reporter), who offer differing opinions. The New York Post, meanwhile, runs a story under the inaccurate headline, "Panel Approves 'WTC' Mosque." Geller is less subtle, titling her post that day, "Monster Mosque Pushes Ahead in Shadow of World Trade Center Islamic Death and Destruction." She writes on her Atlas Shrugs blog, "This is Islamic domination and expansionism. The location is no accident. Just as Al-Aqsa was built on top of the Temple in Jerusalem." (To get an idea of where Geller is coming from, she once suggested that Malcolm X was Obama's real father. Seriously.)

...
sumac
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 04:54 pm
@DrewDad,
Thanks, DrewDad, that was informative.
0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  2  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 06:20 pm
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

The facts, Stupid, it's the facts.

How many times, can you count, has the US talked of forcibly changing governments in other countries. That is terrorism. How many times, can you count, has the US actually changed governments in other countries. That is terrorism.




1 - You do not give specifics.

2 - I do not agree with you. The U.S. has freed Europe from Nazism. Protected Europe from Communism. Saved the Pacific Rim from Japanese Imperialism.

3 - Since you do not seem to ever make mention of the good (see #2 above) that the U.S. has done, I can only view your opinions as part of the ideology of a "true believer" of a specific ideology, whatever that might be?

4 - Calling me "Stupid" takes away from the veracity of your opinion, since the "ad-hominem" argument is not a valid argument at all.

5 - In a world with finite resources, finite skilled labor, and finite land, the only way this country is able to maintain a western standard of living is to "manage" the world-wide competition that results in some living better than others. I do not believe we can motivate every one of the six plus billion inhabitants of this Earth to get up every morning and do something that reflects 16 years of western education. There are a lot of slackers on this planet, so to speak. So, the U.S. must function in a world-wide economy where many are just happy to be the proverbial kid with a bag of candy that can say: "You cannot have any!" Yes, the U.S. should manage a world of lazy, but nationalistic, self-centered a-holes. Not everyone, but many.
0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 06:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

The problem, Foofie, is that you never have a wet dream; they're all dry and ignorant. The US is probably the only contemporary country that has started more illegal wars, and killed hundreds of thousands of innocent people. . That includes, men, women, and children. Our country is also guilty of regime change that has impacted many countries negatively. That you didn't suffer from those loss doesn't mean it didn't happen.


If what you say is true, then what? Who cares? Not I. What am I supposed to do? Do you dictate a penance for me? Why even tell me, since you do know by now, I do not care, as long as the U.S. is safe from every a-hole nation in the world.

I cannot help but feel that the view you subscribe to correlates to some view of concern for all humanity. If that is true, you can save your breath. I am only concerned about U.S. citizens.
0 Replies
 
panzade
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 06:26 pm
@DrewDad,
That's a particularly good post Dad
0 Replies
 
Foofie
 
  2  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 06:31 pm
@ossobuco,
ossobuco wrote:

Actually, the link I gave from the New Yorker a few pages back said that the majority in Manhattan were fine with the proposed center with mosque.



The outer four boroughs are not the demographic of Manhattan. A poll taken in Manhattan could easily be skewed to an ultra-liberal viewpoint, based on when, where, and how the poll was taken. Manhattan today has an upscale population, without the old middle class of 60 years ago.

I take any view of a Manhattan poll as a skewed opinion of New Yorkers, or for that matter those in the Tri-State area that are very New York, whether they live in NJ or Conn.
cicerone imposter
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 06:32 pm
@Foofie,
Like all the other polls taken by FOX News; they are "bent."
0 Replies
 
panzade
 
  1  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 06:53 pm
I like what mayor Bloomberg said

Quote:
“We may not always agree with every one of our neighbors.
That’s life. And it’s part of living in such a diverse and dense city. But we also recognize that part of being a New Yorker is living with your neighbors in mutual respect and tolerance. It was exactly that spirit of openness and acceptance that was attacked on 9/11."
0 Replies
 
gungasnake
 
  -2  
Reply Mon 16 Aug, 2010 07:39 pm
@sumac,
Quote:
There’s an America where it doesn’t matter what language you speak, what god you worship, or how deep your New World roots run. An America where allegiance to the Constitution trumps ethnic differences, language barriers and religious divides. An America where the newest arrival to our shores is no less American than the ever-so-great granddaughter of the Pilgrims....


http://gamersupportgroup.com/BullShit.jpg

I mean, if it wasn't for bullshit, the left wouldn't have any ideas at all, would it?

What we're talking about these days is totally different from anything which has ever come down the road previously: "immigrants" coming here with the intention of forming "sleeper cells" and killing us, and other "immigrants" coming here to join things like "La Raza", and do some sort of a "reconquista" thing, as if Spain or Mexico had ever had any sort of ownership or control over the American SouthWest or California, and a rogue political party willing to do any amount of damage to this country in order to rule it, including trying to import massive voting blocks for itself to neutralize the voting strength of ordinary citizens.

In the case of slammites, what we're talking about is a plan to build a mosque two blocks away from the former World Trade Towers which would rightly be viewed by the slammite "ummah" as symbolic of their great victory of the United States on 9/11/01:

http://i141.photobucket.com/albums/r53/icebear46/ground-zero-victory-mosque2.jpg






0 Replies
 
 

Related Topics

T'Pring is Dead - Discussion by Brandon9000
Another Calif. shooting spree: 4 dead - Discussion by Lustig Andrei
Before you criticize the media - Discussion by Robert Gentel
Fatal Baloon Accident - Discussion by 33export
The Day Ferguson Cops Were Caught in a Bloody Lie - Discussion by bobsal u1553115
Robin Williams is dead - Discussion by Butrflynet
Amanda Knox - Discussion by JTT
 
Copyright © 2025 MadLab, LLC :: Terms of Service :: Privacy Policy :: Page generated in 0.95 seconds on 01/11/2025 at 04:03:01