Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

@Sturgis,

Yes I did read your entire rant.

If the purpose of your posting is to show the follies of some of these person's thinking and ways then it's best to actually call out the most egregious of individuals and show them that they're reasoning is broken.

When this blanket YOU is used then the people of whom you [Sturgis] are rightfully targeting will just roll her or his eyes and say ... well he can't be talking about me. Much of his post is hyperbolic.

Let's take one of those YOU's you target. His or her thinking after reading your vague targeted rant might go something like this:

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My position [so goes the person who opposes this mosque] isn't filled with hatreds or hatred related issues as he doesn't address any criticism I have about the issue at hand. So clearly he can't be ranting at my participation in this thread.

Now if you quoted out a few examples and illustrated your point then that person might actually make the connection. AS of now, your just preaching to the converted and ignoring the one's who need enlightening and yet don't realize the follies of their delusional thinking.

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@tsarstepan,

Your knit-picky attitude is juvenile; most of us understand what Sturgis wrote. When he used "you," he meant all those people who ignore the Constitution, and try to talk about "sensitivity, location, Muslims, and feelings." Some of those arguments may be justified on the basis that some people may have lost loved ones, but that goes far beyond what the US did in the Middle East and the innocents we were responsible in killing. That number far exceeds the 3,000 lost in the WTC, and nobody bothers to talk about their "sensitivity, location, Muslims, and feelings."

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well i certainly hope that sturgis was referring to me

i don't see why we need masques, we have imax movie theatres for god sakes
Razz

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@djjd62,

He was, and he included me in his "rant."

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2571069/posts

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Flip, Flop, they was doin the bop.....

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@High Seas,

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And since demolition of existing structure / construction of a multi-story building in a crowded downtown location (involving supporting struts for adjacent buildings, pedestrian passageways, etc) invariably takes longer than one year the completion date is bogus as well.

A year, pshaaaaawww! Just run a jet into it and it will fall straight down like a cannonball. Put some canopies down each side to contain the dust and put some humongous shop vac hoses under the canopies. Done deal.

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@JTT,

Gee.. JTT.. and how long did it take to remove all the debris from the towers?

I can only surmise that you are a complete idiot based on this post of yours.

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@tsarstepan,

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AS of now, your just preaching to the converted and ignoring the one's who need enlightening and yet don't realize the follies of their delusional thinking.

Facts don't make much difference to most people, nor does pointing out specific people fallacies, Tsars. The facts pointing to the USA as a terrorist nation are crystal clear, yet there are very few people who have been able to acknowledge such.

As I recall, all you could do was create a funny little story.

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@JTT,

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Facts don't make much difference to most people

I never considered you "most people" JTT but in the case of that statement, I'll make an exception.

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@Sturgis,

Excellent post, Sturgis. I don't know how anyone could consider that as a rant unless they just out and out reject any logic on the subject. I don't see how anybody could see that you were specifically speaking of them. Well, unless they are part of those of whom you spoke.

Some people don't like to read the facts. Then, that may be why I am on ignore by some who like to hide their head in the sand. Well, at least some have told me I am on ignore.

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@parados,

Facts, in certain situations don't make any difference to you, Parados. It's a conundrum, I agree.

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@Intrepid,

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Some people don't like to read the facts.

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Sturgis,

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The U.S. is no better than Germany at the height of Nazi attrocities where with so many were slaughtered including many of my own heritage.

I understand your consternation. But this is over the top.

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@snood,

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I understand your consternation. But this is over the top.

I'm not at all sure that these things can be dismissed that easily, Snood.

This is but one example.

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United States of America
See also: Bureau of Indian Affairs
On September 8, 2000, the head of the Bureau of Indian Affairs (BIA) formally apologized for the agency's participation in the "ethnic cleansing" of Western tribes.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_history_of_indigenous_peoples_of_the_Americas

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@JTT,

JTT,
I am as hard as ANYBODY on this country for its legacy of racism, genocide and injustice. But the statement I c&p'ed implied that the US is presently as bad as Nazi Germany at the height of their Jew burning. And I think that's over the top.

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@Intrepid,

Ah yes, the old "if the shoe fits. . . ." line of reasoning. Obviously declares the shoe to fit if anyone answers. It's old.

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@Intrepid,

Intrepid wrote:

Well, at least some have told me I am on ignore.

Its not worth it to put u on Ignore, Richard.

David

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It looks like the Moslems r going to win this,
but when someone is, in effect, giving us the finger,
we shoud not pretend to be too stupid to understand
that that is what has happened.

David

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@roger,

What the hell are you talking about?

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