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Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

 
 
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 01:57 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Hopefully you could not now pass such a background check for the reasons I had already given.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 02:42 pm
@BillRM,
Why? I've been retired since 1998. You are one stupid dumb-ass.

What in my background will deny me a Top Secret clearance?
Please be specific with evidence; not conjecture and assumptions.

You continue to show your ignorance - even after I provide evidence to the contrary.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:18 pm
@cicerone imposter,
The public statements of your on this thread alone should in my opinion should be more then enough red flags to prevent a security clearance from being granted.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:20 pm
@BillRM,
You said absolutely nothing; as usual.
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:23 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
That's the reason why Iran continues its nuclear program; to scare the be-jesus out of their neighbors.



Sorry but somehow I can picture you without a problem doing so emailing nuclear secrets to Iran to level the playing field as after all atom weapons are no big deal and just a meaningless tool to scare neighbors.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:36 pm
@BillRM,
Your ignorance continues to show; our country displays nukes at some of our museums, and Wiki has articles on them. Most physicists with any brains know how nuclear weapons work; their biggest problem is refining the uranium for use in bombs.

You still haven't answered what would disqualify me from obtaining a top secret clearance today.


You're trying to discuss a subject you know nothing about; I worked with nukes. I've already provided enough evidence to prove my claim; you have not proved anything.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:43 pm
@cicerone imposter,
By what reasoning do u consider this to be "proof"
of ANYTHING ??

U offer some pictures of people.
We don 't know who those people are.
We don't know what u look like.

U offer a New Mexico driver's license,
with the driver's name redacted,
which is just as well, since we don't know
(and don't wanna know) your name.
Do u allege that ALL licensed drivers of New Mexico
served in the Strategic Air Command ???

This leaves us with 2 possibilities:
either u served in the SAC, as u allege,
for which u deserve thanks,

OR

u really are an impostor.



In your mind,
how does the material that u offer PROVE anything???
What is your reasoning ??





David
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:48 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Prove your points? Anyone with half a brain would know that 1) I didn't forge anything, 2) many on a2k know me by looks and my real name (as revealed in the photos), and 3) you don't know me. What's your point? That you're a sick asshole with nothing better to do on a2k but make yourself look more foolish and dumb?

Many on a2k knows me; trust me on that.

Here's a list of a2k members who know me:
Dys, osso, Calamity Jane, georgeob, Walter, Thomas, farmerman, wandel, JPB, McTag, Merry Andrew, ehBeth, realjohnboy, Sglass, and many others.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:55 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Your ignorance continues to show; our country displays nukes at some of our museums, and Wiki has articles on them. Most physicists with any brains know how nuclear weapons work; their biggest problem is refining the uranium for use in bombs.

You still haven't answered what would disqualify me from obtaining a top secret clearance today.


You're trying to discuss a subject you know nothing about; I worked with nukes.
I've already provided enough evidence
to prove my claim
; [I 'm not so sure of THAT! David]

you have not proved anything.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 04:57 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Your claims of having provided any evidence is null and void; please show us when and where?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 05:06 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
Your claims of having provided any evidence is null and void; please show us when and where?
That is quoting YOU,
from your post. MY comment was contained within square brackets;
thay mean an interruption of a quote.

I have offered no evidence.

I 'm only questioning what U offered.
I do not see your chain of logic
that u claim leads to the conclusion
that u handled nukes,
nor that u served in the Strategic Air Command.

It is POSSIBLE that u might have; anyone might have.

Please tell us your chain of logic
about how what u offered proves anything.





David
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 05:25 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
Your ignorance continues to show; our country displays nukes at some of our museums, and Wiki has articles on them. Most physicists with any brains know how nuclear weapons work; their biggest problem is refining the uranium for use in bombs.


I been to those museums and I just have an interesting tour of the former Atom Testing Range given by the DOE outside of Las Vegas.

However nothing in the public domain is likely to cover the fine engineering details of how to get such a weapon to perform correctly or how to reduce it size/mass and at the same time increased it preformed by a few orders of magnitudes at least.

It take a few decades of engineering and billions of dollars and one hell of a testing program to get from a low yield weapon that only the largest planes can carry to something that can fit into a missile let alone a shell.

The North Korean for example only seem so far to be able to produce a very low order device not even a weapon who had only the fraction of the preformed of our very first WW2 prototypes.

They and a great many other nations would sell their souls to get a hold of our computer design nuclear weapons softwares for example and would give a leg or two for a great deal less.

Now as if you are a nuclear expert you would know all this far better then I so why are you blowing smoke?

I will give you that getting some type of bomb/device to work is far simpler with uranium with whom you can used a simpler gun trigger then with a Plutonium device that you need an implosive trigger.

OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 05:38 pm
@BillRM,
Bill,
I 'm not sure whether I accurately understand what u r implying.

Do u mean that because the North Koreans are still in the early,
primitive stages of nuclear weapons development
we shoud therefore leave them alone
and not attack them ??





David
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 06:06 pm
@OmSigDAVID,
Quote:
'm not sure whether I accurately understand what u r implying.

Do u mean that because the North Koreans are still in the early,
primitive stages of nuclear weapons development
we shoud therefore leave them alone
and not attack them ??



David I am not saying anything other then that our so call nuclear expert is blowing smoke when he claimed that the knowledge to build a practice and even semi-effective nuclear weapon is in the public domain.

The theory had been in the public domain for many decades the engineering knowledge have never been and need to be hard won or stolen.


cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 06:29 pm
@BillRM,
Here; check these out: http://www.atomicarchive.com/Photos/LBFM/index.shtml
BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 06:53 pm
@cicerone imposter,
And that is suppose to prove what?

Yes you do not need stolen information to created a little boy with it gun trigger and big boy is a great deal harder but with modern technology Iran could likely do so given the materials.

However both are **** poor weapons and Iran is not going to be able to produce anything that will get off the ground in a missile war head without outside help or preform must better then those two ww2 weapons did.

I can see them having a little tiny problem getting either device to a target having any air defense at all. Not very practice weapons in modern times.

To even scare their neighbors they are going to need a hell of a lot better and that would be only possible with stolen or given knowledge and some core compounds I question they could produce themselves.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 07:27 pm
@cicerone imposter,
To sum up a traitor with knowledge of modern nuclear weapons designs could greatly increased the danger from a country like Iran Nuclear weapon program.

So you position that because it is likely that Iran could come up with a first generation nuclear weapon all by itself that mean that we should not worry about someone handing them the ability to produce far more dangerous weapons systems is nonsense on it face.

Not all nuclear weapons are created equal to say the least.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 07:36 pm
@BillRM,
BillRM, That kind of info on the making of nuclear weapons have been in the public domain for several decades. How and when Iran or any other country interested in making nuclear weapons have been at it for as long as I can remember. Where have you been all that time? In your home writing stupid posts on a2k?
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:22 pm
@BillRM,

Quote:
'm not sure whether I accurately understand what u r implying.

Do u mean that because the North Koreans are still in the early,
primitive stages of nuclear weapons development
we shoud therefore leave them alone
and not attack them ??
BillRM wrote:

David I am not saying anything other then that our so call nuclear expert is blowing smoke when he claimed that the knowledge to build a practice and even semi-effective nuclear weapon is in the public domain.

The theory had been in the public domain for many decades the engineering knowledge have never been and need to be hard won or stolen.
I believe that u r correct,
but I m no expert. If u were in error,
then there 'd be a lot more countries with nukes.





David
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BillRM
 
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Reply Sun 26 Dec, 2010 08:22 pm
@cicerone imposter,
Quote:
BillRM, That kind of info on the making of nuclear weapons have been in the public domain for several decades. How and when Iran or any other country interested in making nuclear weapons have been at it for as long as I can remember. Where have you been all that time? In your home writing stupid posts on a2k?


BULLSHIT and I mean bullshit neither Pakistan or India nuclear weapons are anywhere near western standards with India maybe having a boosted fission device but no thermonuclear device. Somewhat similar to our early 1950s technology.

Total numbers of nuclear weapons for India is estimate as thirty or so with Pakistan having a similar numbers of devices/weapons.

Both countries I am sure would love to have our knowledge of nuclear weapons design.

North Korean have been a failure so far with only partial reactions yielding less then 1/30 the yield of our WW2 prototypes.

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