Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

@RexRed,

And I think that you need to actually READ the Koran. There is nothing in it about using women as "sex slaves" at all. Just like there in nothing in Islamic teachings that says women must wear a burkha.
I would think that you would rather learn about it, instead of accepting these nonsensical claims and ignorance about Islam.

There is much to learn. Science and math both exist today in the western world becausd Islam kept them alive during the dark ages. It was an Islamic leader that first recognized the US as an independent country during the revolutionary war.

Islam lays down very strict laws regarding many things.
Yes its true that some people have twisted those laws in an attempt to justify their own actions, but the same thing has been done in the name of christianity also.

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@BillRM,

I suggest you read about the spanish inquisition.
That was done by the catholic church, with the knowledge and support of the spanish govt.
So dont make the claim that Islam is the only guilty party.

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@mysteryman,

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I suggest you read about the spanish inquisition.
That was done by the catholic church, with the knowledge and support of the spanish govt.
So dont make the claim that Islam is the only guilty party.

Lord I am a damn atheist so I do not think that any religion is superior to any other however, the Muslin faith/religion is the only one currently being used by sociopaths to justify mass murder.

The Catholic murderers of the 14 century are not going to be coming back to life to murder once more and the Catholic faith as it now exist is not going to have it current members killings in the name of Jesus or flying planes into buildings in his name or blowing themselves and others up in his name.

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@mysteryman,

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And I think that you need to actually READ the Koran. There is nothing in it about using women as "sex slaves" at all. Just like there in nothing in Islamic teachings that says women must wear a burkha.

In theory and perhaps someday the Muslin faith will be as harmless to the common good as all the others major faiths however it is now control to a large degree by evil men and they are being allow to define what their version of god wishes such as women are slaves to the men and that they need to cover up and flying planes into buildings full of men women and even some children is a way to get to heaven.

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@cicerone imposter,

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How about all the other Americans who are plotting to kill somebody? That happens at the rate of 5.8 for every 100,000 population. What are you doing about that?

So until we can stop every husband and wife from killing each other or stop all bar fights or drug shoots out it is wrong wrong to try to stop Muslims from reaching heaven by killing large numbers of us?

Is that your logic?

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@BillRM,

No, BillRM it's about reality; something you sorely miss in this discussion about Muslims and the few who are involved in terrorism. The US used "shock and awe" in our first bombing of that sovereign country called Iraq when they posed no threat. We ended up killing over 100,000 innocent men, women, and children. That's the ultimate in terrorism. Something you fail to see with your blind, bigoted, eyes. Also, study the history of Vietnam. I recommend a book by Daniel Ellsberg who wrote about our atrocities in that country. We were the terrorists, and many Vietnamese still suffer from the effects of agent orange.

You'll never learn, because you are a ****'n bigot.

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@cicerone imposter,

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No, BillRM it's about reality; something you sorely miss in this discussion about Muslims and the few who are involved in terrorism. The US used "shock and awe" in our first bombing of that sovereign country called Iraq when they posed no threat

So because of sins you think the US had committed we have a duty to roll over and allow any Muslin who desire to get to heaven and to be greeted by 72 virgins to do so over our dead bodies?

Your logic is sadly lacking as always.

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@BillRM,

I would recommend you study northedn Irelands history. There you had catholics and protestants killing each other, partly for political reasons and partlycfor religious reasons. That was just a few years ago.

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@mysteryman,

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I would recommend you study northedn Irelands history. There you had catholics and protestants killing each other, partly for political reasons and partlycfor religious reasons. That was just a few years ago.

Lord it is almost 100 percent political reasons with no backing by the catholic church or any major protestants faiths for a religion war of any nature or kind.

Also killing of children and women have not been all that common to say the least in that conflict.

Hardly similar to the Muslin religion leadership calling for a holy war and promising an express trip to heaven for the mass killings of women and children.

Nice try however....................

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@BillRM,

So, what makes you think those Muslim terrorists are following the dictates for Islam?

The catholic church was responsible for the Crusades. I guess that's news to you.

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@cicerone imposter,

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So, what makes you think those Muslim terrorists are following the dictates for Islam?

The Muslim Terrorists had used Mosques including NYC mosques to planned attacks, raise funds and recruit members under the cover of holy religion war.

This kind of behavior exist in the Mosques and is not a concern for any other faith.

As far the Crusades are concern the last person kill by a crusader was kill around eight hundreds years ago hardly a concern for modern NYC.

So facing religion nuts who are out to kill as many Americans and Westerns as possible the Crusades that ended 800 years ago have what connection?

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@BillRM,

So, 800 years from now, you'll also forgive the extremists who call themselves Muslim?

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@BillRM,

DIf I was to go thru the bible, I can find passages that say somebody must die, for whatever reason. Now, if I follow those passages to the letter, or if I interpret a passage to mean that, am I following my religion or am I twisting it to my benefit?

And if Islam itself is the problem, why is Indonesia a relatively peaceful country? After all, it is the most populous Muslim country.
And if Islam itself is the problem why arent Muslims here in the US becoming terrorists?

It isnt Islam that is the problem, its how some people are twisting it that is the problem.

BTW, when CI and I agree on an issue, you can be pretty certain that we ads correct.
Since ws cant even agree on what color the sky is, for us to agree on this issue should be pretty telling about the issue.

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@cicerone imposter,

If and when the Muslins drive out the evil nuts who had taken over a large part of their religion then who would care where they set up a mosque but as long as they have such influence mosques are not the same as other religion centers.

As I said before I am a atheist and all religions are equally silly on their face to me.

However, at this time and moment in history the Muslin faith is a far greater danger to the peace and welfare of the rest of us then all the others religions together.

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@BillRM,

How many mosques do you think are in this world today? How many of those are directly related to terrorist activities?

How can you use such a huge brush to condemn all mosques?

It's because you're a ****'n, ignorant, bigot,

BillRM, Are you a WASP? Are all WASPS bigoted pigs like you?

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@mysteryman,

Look, my silly friend the Muslin faith had been proven to be a problem in the US.

See the big hole in the ground just to start with where two of the tallest buildings in the world once existed.

It religion centers<mosques> had been used for setting up, funding and recruiting terrorist attacks on US soil in the name of that faith for decades now.

Is this faith any more inherently dangerous then any other faith?

I do not off hand think so but for now it is far more of a concern that any other religion due to the actions of men claiming to kill in it name and the support they had received from others sharing their world view and faith.

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@BillRM,

It's people like you who are the biggest problem in the US. Bigoted, ignoramus, without any common sense, ethics, or understanding of any religion.

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@cicerone imposter,

Theres an old saying about wrestling with a pig in mud,after a while you realize the pig likes it.
I think thats what we are doing here, with Bill as the porcine combatant.

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@mysteryman,

mm, I have to agree with you. Waste of time and effort.

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@cicerone imposter,

The funny thing is that he cant see the way he is so bigoted.
And if you and I, who cant agree on anything, agree on an issue, then maybe there is actually something to what we are saying.
But his mind was made up and he didnt want to be confused by the truth.

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