Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

Tell that nonsense to the people who are sentence to death for daring to convert to another religion.

Or the people who need to live in fear because they wrote or drawn something that the religious leadership does not approve of.

Tell that to the women who are beaten for being out without a male protector in public or for not being completely cover.

Or the twenty percents that of the followers of that faith who approved of suicide bombings or.....................

It is a very sick faith that lend itself to evilness even more then the others majors faiths.

Good points.





David

BillRM wrote:

You're the nonsense! You don't know what you are talking about. How many Muslim countries do you know that practice what you claim? Give us numbers, and the number of persecutions for converting to another religion.

You're dumber than a door stop.

Name me one repeat one repeat one nation on the earth that is control by any other faith that sentence people to death for converting to another religion.

Name me one nation repeat one nation control by another religion that had put out a hit contract on an author for writing a damn book they did not care for.

Name one major religion that have a large percent of it religion leadership supporting suicide bombings.

Sorry the Muslin faith is unique in this regard as must as you would wish to pretend otherwise.

BillaRM, If you know your history, that I doubt, you'll understand that the number of persecutions based on "any" religion is small when compared to other crimes and accidents.

Yet, people like you love to use whole cloth to denigrate one religion that makes up over 1.4 billion in this world. You're an ignoramus of the worst kind.

How many Muslims do you know? Better yet, you still haven't provided any numbers of persecutions by country based on religion.

It does not need to be large to be meaningful as once more the Muslin faith is the only one with this "problem" and the only ones who faith members have the charming habit of killings others in large numbers in the name of their faith with the full support of a fairly large percent of the religion leadership.

That is more then enough reason not to pretend that the Muslin faith is the same as any others of the main faiths existing today.

Yes I know we should just pretend that none of this is happening and bury the bodies of the victims without comments instead.

Yes, it does. Look at our country, the US of A, where the population is something over 308 million, and we have more crimes in this country than you'll able to compare Muslim atrocities against other religions.

Don't forget, there are over 1.4 billion Muslims in this world.

If you're interested about buried bodies, look what we did to the Iraqis; that's over 100,000 innocents dead.

Yes I know the US is evil so the mass killings of men women and children by religion nuts should be overlook.

No, but what are "you" going to do about it? Your concern is misplaced amongst all the problems of this world.

Making Muslims the target of your ignorance is no excuse.

FYI, homicide crimes in the US was 5.8 per 100,000 population in 2008. This is closer to "home." What are you doing about this US problem? It's one of the worst record when compared to all developed countries. Have you been overlooking this problem?

So telling the truth that there are solid reasons not to view the Muslin faith or their religion centers in the same light as any of the others now existing major faiths is targeting them?

When it is no more likely for an aircraft to be blown out of the sky by a person claiming to be acting in the name of his or her Muslin faith then it would be for that aircraft to be blown out of the sky by a person of the Catholic faith or the Jewish faith or the Hindu faith then and only then can you cry about them being unfairly a target of concern.

What do we call it when we refuse to use our powers of discernment to keep us save because we dont like the reality that it reveals??IDK, but this certainly goes beyond stupidity, this is pathological.

Why are you so attached to Muslim's crimes and not others? Those who commit crimes are a small number of extremists when you understand they (Muslims) make up 1/5th of the world population.

Your bigoted thinking has already been exposed; what more stupid statements are you going to make on this account?

Lord no other current world religion faith have the history of it members killing in the name of that faith or using their religion centers as meetings and recruiting locations for such acts of murder in the name of their faith.

Including a numbers of past uses of Mosques in NYC to promote and plan mass murders.

No matter how you try to hide that fact the history is there, so a Mosque located near the the site of a mass killings of thousands of people done in the name of that faith can and should not be view as the same as the location of any other faith religion centers.

When Temples or Churches have a similar history I would then express similar concerns about their locations.

NYC Mosque being the center of a numbers of plots to kill US citizens see below.

http://www.globaljihad.net/view_page.asp?id=52

The Pipe-Bombs Plot - 03/1991



In 03/1991 two members of Al-Farook Mosque, El Sayyid Nosair , already in jail in Rickers Island, and Wadih el Hage, plotted to plant 12 pipe-bombs in Jewish targets in New York and to assassinate El Sayyid Nosair s’ judge but never executed their plan.



Mustafa Shalabi's murder - 02/25/1991

Mustafa Shalabi, the manager and founder of “Al Kifah” association, had a bitter struggle with the blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman ever since he arrived to USA on 07/1990, probably about controlling and using the Al Kifah’s money. He was subject to constant denunciations by Omar Abdel Rahman’s followers. Under the pressure Mustafa Shalabi sent his family back to Egypt. Few days later, on 02/25/1991 Mustafa Shalabi, was mysteriously murdered.


The World Trade Center (WTC) Attack - 02/26/1993.



The investigation after the first attack on the WTC in New York, on 02/26/1993, revealed that most of the participants were from Al-Farook Mosque worshipers and that the blind Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman used his connection to Afghanistan to recruit experts, like Ramzi Yousef, to train his followers in using explosives.



The "HOLLAND Tunnel" plot, also known as "Day of Terror" plot - 1993.



After a short surveillance, the FBI revealed another plot planned by Al-Farook Mosque cell to set off five bombs in 10 minutes intended to blow up the United Nations headquater, the Lincoln and HOLLAND tunnels, the George Washington Bridge and a federal building in New York housing the FBI.





Epilogue



* Despite the arrests of so many terror activists from Al-Farook Mosque still In 1999 a Yemenite Sheikh Mohammed al-Moayad raised money in the Al-Farook Mosque, allegedly for charity that, according to intelligence sources, was used to finance Al Qaeda’s terror network.

* Nine worshipers of Al-Farook Mosque were arrested for the Day of Terror plot, convicted on 10/01/1995 and sent for life to jail.

* Four other associates of Al-Farook Mosque were convicted in 2002 of conspiring with Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman to commit terrorist acts while he was in prison.

You need to study a little bit of human history going back to the crusades, inquisition, holocaust, the christian slaughter of aborigines in Australia and the Americas, and what GW Bush, the christian, did in Iraq.

You might also look into Yemen, Vietnam, and our current slaughters in Afghanistan of innocents - that the US euphemistically calls "collateral damage."

Out of the 1.4 billion Muslims, how many did you count were terrorists?

Do you have an honest bone in your body?

I had been talking about current threats to US citizens and others from the members of one religion faith not happenings dating back hundreds or thousands of years.

The Mosques with special note of NYC Mosques had been the centers of murder plots and others highly undesirable happenings around the world in the very recent past and therefore a new Mosque to be build in NYC near the site of mass murder done in the name of that religion is not the same as any other religion center serving any other group.

That's because you still don't have your facts straight. There are and always have been places of worship for Muslims within the same area.

My lens are perfectly clear; you're the one who sees through bigoted lens.

So adding another center that from past history is likely to be used to plot and fund mass murders as was the NYC Al-Farook Mosque is a wise thing to promote?

How do you arrive at such stupid conclusions that

How about all the other Americans who are plotting to kill somebody? That happens at the rate of 5.8 for every 100,000 population. What are you doing about that?

Figure out the math if you can; there are 308+ million people in this country.