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Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

 
 
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 09:50 am
@BillRM,
What has that got to do with 9-11? No relationship whatsoever. If you know anything about history, all cultures have engaged in genocide and atrocities. You ability to isolate one terrorist organization to apply it all other history of humanity belongs on the laffer curve. Think GW Bush.
OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 10:05 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:
What has that got to do with 9-11? No relationship whatsoever. If you know anything about history, all cultures have engaged in genocide and atrocities. You ability to isolate one terrorist organization to apply it all other history of humanity belongs on the laffer curve.



Think GW Bush.
HE shoud have completed the job
the first time around, instead of doing it 2ice.





David
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parados
 
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Reply Mon 8 Nov, 2010 02:05 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:



It was not "their war." It was our war. Fought for reasons that us little chickens might not understand its import.

I think you meant to say -


Fought for reasons only the chicken littles might understand.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2010 05:46 pm
One just can not understand why some people had a poor view of this major religion they just must be bigots.


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/8120142/Christian-woman-sentenced-to-death-in-Pakistan-for-blasphemy.html

Christian woman sentenced to death in Pakistan 'for blasphemy'
A Christian woman has been sentenced to hang in Pakistan after being convicted of defaming the Prophet Mohammed.

Asia Bibi has been sentenced to death 'for blasphemy'
By Rob Crilly in Islamabad and Aoun Sahi in Lahore 5:36PM GMT 09 Nov 2010
Asia Bibi, a 45-year-old mother-of-five, denies blasphemy and told investigators that she was being persecuted for her faith in a country where Christians face routine harassment and discrimination.

Christian groups and human rights campaigners condemned the verdict and called for the blasphemy laws to be repealed.

Her supporters say she will now appeal against the sentence handed down in a local court in the town of Sheikhupura, near Lahore, Pakistan.

cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2010 06:36 pm
@BillRM,
Do you know the difference between Pakistan and the UK, US?
Foofie
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2010 08:33 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Do you know the difference between Pakistan and the UK, US?


What is your point that you cannot just say simply?
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 12 Nov, 2010 11:41 pm
@Foofie,
I see! You don't understand the difference.
Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 13 Nov, 2010 07:03 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

I see! You don't understand the difference.


I asked what was your point (in contact of the difference).
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 13 Nov, 2010 07:05 pm
@Foofie,
Some things should be obvious without having it explained; this is one of those.
Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 13 Nov, 2010 07:15 pm
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Some things should be obvious without having it explained; this is one of those.


You seem to not want to post for the reader, but for yourself.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sat 13 Nov, 2010 07:19 pm
@Foofie,
Why are you reading my posts?
parados
 
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Reply Thu 18 Nov, 2010 05:56 pm
@Foofie,
Foofie wrote:

cicerone imposter wrote:

Do you know the difference between Pakistan and the UK, US?


What is your point that you cannot just say simply?

I think the point is obvious in what was said.
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 04:53 am
Quote:
The New York Times
November 22, 2010
Islamic Center Seeks 9/11 Recovery Grants for Lower Manhattan
By KAREEM FAHIM

The directors of the planned Islamic community center and mosque near ground zero have applied for grants from an agency tasked with helping Lower Manhattan recover from the attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. The request was for about $5 million, said a person with knowledge of the grant application.

In a statement, the developer, Sharif el-Gamal, said that the board of Park51, as the center is known, asked for the financing from the Lower Manhattan Development Corporation about two weeks ago. The money, which would come from a pool of $2 billion in federal financing administered by the corporation, would be used for domestic violence prevention programs, language classes, art exhibitions and other social services at the center.

“Park51 remains committed to exploring all sources of revenue and funding to build the community center in Lower Manhattan,” Mr. Gamal said. “It is important to note that this community center will provide hundreds of construction jobs over the next few years and when opened will provide 150 permanent jobs.”

The plans for the center created a national furor this summer after opponents complained that its location, two blocks from the northern edge of ground zero, was inappropriate. Since then, the evolving plans for the center — and especially its financing— have come under scrutiny.

Mr. Gamal has said he plans to raise the $140 million required to build the center by tapping small donors, enlisting paying members and courting corporations and philanthropists. Nothing has been raised yet, but the developers insist that their fund-raising efforts are going according to plan and that they have found interested donors.

The center would include a Muslim prayer space, a swimming pool, a preschool and a 9/11 memorial.

The competition for the latest rounds of financing from the development corporation, totaling about $17 million, is expected to be intense. Julie Menin, who sits on the corporation’s board, said that 255 groups had requested a total of $170 million.

Applicants have to show a “nexus to revitalizing the World Trade Center site and its surroundings,” Ms. Menin said, adding that the applications panel would favor proposals focused on job creation and partnerships with other Lower Manhattan organizations.

“Because the economy is in the state it’s in, we’ve had more applications than ever,” Ms. Menin said. “There are going to be very tough choices.”

Park51 applied for financing for six separate programs, including money to buy equipment, lease or purchase the building, and bring art exhibitions to the space. Money was also requested for counselors for victims of domestic abuse, programs that would help new immigrants and services for small-business owners. Another application seeks money for a program to help homeless veterans with job training and drug counseling.

Ms. Menin, who said that she had not seen Park51’s application, said it was not unusual for one organization to apply for more than one grant.

If Park51 receives money from the development corporation, it will be subjected to rigorous federal reporting requirements. Kevin Cunningham, the executive artistic director of 3 Legged Dog Media and Theater Group, which received $1.5 million from the corporation several years ago, said he was required to submit regular reports outlining demographic data on employees and patrons alike.
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/nyregion/23mosque.html?_r=1&hpw
BillRM
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 08:30 am
@firefly,
So they are trying to scram public fundings to build thier religion center aided I am sure with some created book keeping.

Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 10:52 am
@cicerone imposter,
cicerone imposter wrote:

Why are you reading my posts?


Indeed! Why is anybody?
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firefly
 
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Reply Tue 23 Nov, 2010 10:55 am
@BillRM,
Quote:
So they are trying to scram public fundings to build thier religion center aided I am sure with some created book keeping


Quite the opposite.

They are applying for grant funds to which they may be legitimately entitled. Their proposed community center will provide employment and a range of cultural and social activities to enrich the lower Manhattan area.

This all seems to be quite above board. Their plans will be carefully scrutinized and they may, or may not, get any funds from this source.

It does indicate they have no intention of backing away from their project..
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 24 Nov, 2010 05:00 pm
@firefly,
Yes I am sure thie is just what the backers are claiming it is!!!!!!!!!!!
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RexRed
 
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Reply Mon 13 Dec, 2010 06:08 pm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20101213/wl_nm/us_sweden_blast
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RexRed
 
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Reply Tue 21 Dec, 2010 02:07 am
http://www.typicallyspanish.com/news/publish/article_28388.shtml#ixzz18gYwdpQ9

I would think most western women would be offended by the word "harem" and for good reason, It is disrespectful to woman's rights. In other words it is cruelty. Yet, Islam teaches that Allah uses women as sex slaves to entice men to blow themselves up for 72 virgins.

Those of Islam do not fuss over cruelty to other animals especially the non Islam human variety (and even cruelty to women), and they certainly don't care about cruelty to pigs.

In order to be right with Allah one has to take (at least) two steps back (away) from Islam.
cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 21 Dec, 2010 08:53 am
@RexRed,
Rex You're making the same mistake as most media sources to describe Islam that way. Most Muslims are peace loving people, and we already have misinformation about Islam and Muslims without you doing the same.

That belongs on FOX News; not somebody I respect on a2k.
 

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