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Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

 
 
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firefly
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 10:37 am
@JPB,
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Wow --- I hope I'm wrong but, coming from someone who has written missives, this sounds a bit self-serving. As in, "I've said everything there is to say and he hasn't stopped spouting his BS so we should all just ignore him."


I think you are are wrong, JPB, at least as far as my "self-serving" motives go. What I'm saying is very specific to BillRM and his motivation to deliberately derail and trash threads (another prime example being the Rape thread).

It's not just that he spouts BS, lots of people do that, and it can lead to enjoyable interchanges. Nor am I suggesting that anyone else be ignored. And my feelings about the sort of things that BillRM does to try to destroy a thread are shared by other people, and have, in fact, been voiced in this thread in earlier posts.



Rockhead
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 10:41 am
It is indeed very difficult if not impossible to have a rational discussion around bill. I find myself chasing missing letters and thought processes.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 10:44 am
@ehBeth,
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It'll be fine mixed in with the strip joints as has been planned.


Yes, if I was setting up a religion community center in the hope of bringing in young people I would picked a site near strip joints if at all possible and one that annoy a large number of people by being so near the 911 site beside.

I am trying to think of the name of the college that existed in NYC before the founding of the country where the faculty was constantly expressing concerns about their young men being corrupted by the hookers hanging around the area of the college. When if come to NYC some things does not change over the course of hundreds of years it would seem.

King's College who name was change to Columbia University after we have that little problem with the king in 1776.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 10:46 am
@Rockhead,
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I find myself chasing missing letters and thought processes.


Do you normally find them?
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:00 am
@firefly,
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Nor am I suggesting that anyone else be ignored.


My Firefly of all the posters on this system you are of the opinion that little old loveable me should be ignore by all.

Even more then Hawkeye!!!!!

Eat your heart out Hawkeye…………
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:02 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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I find myself chasing missing letters and thought processes.


Do you normally find them?


Once found, it becomes difficult to form them into logical thought patterns.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:29 am
@BillRM,
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repeatedly confuses political responses by Muslims with religious motivations

Hmm you had not taken note that a fair percent of Muslims tied those two factors together themselves as tightly as any right wing Christian as a matter of fact.


You know I been trying to figure out the logic for the numbers of votes downs any ones of my postings had achieved on the emotional threads.

Most of my postings here are getting a neg 2 or so and yet the above response to firefly got a neg 5.

You know guys I cannot think that any reasonable person would not agree that a large percent of Muslins do indeed tied their politics with their religion faith and do so as openly and as proudly as Pat Robertson does with his so a neg 5 is surprising in this case.

Is there any logic to these votes’ downs or are they mainly random for anyone taking the unpopular side of a debate?
Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:38 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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repeatedly confuses political responses by Muslims with religious motivations

Hmm you had not taken note that a fair percent of Muslims tied those two factors together themselves as tightly as any right wing Christian as a matter of fact.


You know I been trying to figure out the logic for the numbers of votes downs any ones of my postings had achieved on the emotional threads.

Most of my postings here are getting a neg 2 or so and yet the above response to firefly got a neg 5.

You know guys I cannot think that any reasonable person would not agree that a large percent of Muslins do indeed tied their politics with their religion faith and do so as openly and as proudly as Pat Robertson does with his so a neg 5 is surprising in this case.

Is there any logic to these votes’ downs or are they mainly random for anyone taking the unpopular side of a debate?


It doesn't even really have to do with the specifics of what you write, Bill; I think that most posters here, including myself, rate you down because we want to send the message that we not only disagree with your illogical writing, but that you are overall quite a douchebag.

I'm still chortling about how badly you got embarrassed on the DWFTTW thread. If you had any balls at all you'd admit you're wrong. But we both know that you don't, and won't.

Cycloptichorn
Foofie
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:50 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

King's College who name was change to Columbia University after we have that little problem with the king in 1776.



http://www.columbia.edu/about_columbia/history.html

I have passed the building, and there was a smallish placque that stated that the building was once King's College, now Columbia University. I am not sure where the building was on Park Place, in relation to the proposed mosque; however, I do not believe it can be far, as the crow flies, since there are not many blocks to City Hall from Ground Zero.



JTT
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:51 am
@Cycloptichorn,
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I think that most posters here, including myself, rate you down because we want to send the message that we not only disagree with your illogical writing, but that you are overall quite a douchebag.


That's a really moronic way to act for a group of people who are supposed to be such great debaters.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:51 am
@Cycloptichorn,
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It doesn't even really have to do with the specifics of what you write, Bill; I think that most posters here, including myself, rate you down because we want to send the message that we not only disagree with your illogical writing, but that you are overall quite a douchebag.


Yes, I am sure a blanked vote down of all my postings is a factor however that does not explain why the posting in question got a neg 5 in the middle of others only reaching a neg two or so.

Seem to be no firm logic here for some reason or other.

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I'm still chortling about how badly you got embarrassed on the DWFTTW thread. If you had any balls at all you'd admit you're wrong. But we both know that you don't, and won't.


I am hardly ever wrong including likely in that thread. Been checking every once in the while to see if the mechanic of how that hoax was pull off on NALSA had come to light yet or not.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:52 am
@JTT,
JTT wrote:

Quote:
I think that most posters here, including myself, rate you down because we want to send the message that we not only disagree with your illogical writing, but that you are overall quite a douchebag.


That's a really moronic way to act for a group of people who are supposed to be such great debaters.


JTT: I think that most posters here, including myself, rate you down because we want to send the message that we not only disagree with your illogical writing, but that you are overall quite a douchebag.

Cycloptichorn
JTT
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:58 am
@Cycloptichorn,
It's noted that you are also acting childish, Cy.

If you had a measure of honesty, you would admit that you can't discuss those issues, [as you've already admitted], because you are unwilling to engage anyone who won't allow at the outset that they are mistaken.

That's as cockamamie an idea as Hawkeye, Bill, Massagato, Ican, Okie, MM have ever had.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 11:58 am
@BillRM,
BillRM wrote:

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It'll be fine mixed in with the strip joints as has been planned.


Yes, if I was setting up a religion community center in the hope of bringing in young people I would picked a site near strip joints if at all possible


If you were a good Christian you would. If you were a good member of a Jewish congregation you would.

Salvation Army, the SIHNYC (Lutheran Mission in Manhattan), St. John the Compassionate, the Jewish Community Centre (in our local case, the Miles Nadal Centre) etc etc - where do they set up their facilities? downtown - where people needing support and good community services are. Are there associated prayer facilities in these places ? yes.
BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 12:01 pm
@Cycloptichorn,
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JTT: I think that most posters here, including myself, rate you down because we want to send the message that we not only disagree with your illogical writing, but that you are overall quite a douchebag.


Too bad we no longer had the Western Union telegram any longer as that way you could send us a message that way. Razz

In any case such messages for the most part just amused me even those I find the illogic in the patterns of vote downs interesting.

It nice Cyloptichorn however you are being so honest over this matter.

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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 12:07 pm
@ehBeth,
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Salvation Army, the SIHNYC (Lutheran Mission in Manhattan), St. John the Compassionate, the Jewish Community Centre (in our local case, the Miles Nadal Centre) etc etc - where do they set up their facilities? downtown - where people needing support and good community services are. Are there associated prayer facilities in these places ? yes.


Interesting logic but in a city like NYC with it great subway system I do not think I would tend to place such facilities right by strip joints if at all possible not to do so.
ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 12:18 pm
@BillRM,
It's ok, BillRM. There is no need for you to follow the centuries-old logic of missionaries.

You go ahead and put your mission wherever you'd like (and that you can get the zoning for).
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 12:20 pm
@Foofie,
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have passed the building, and there was a smallish placque that stated that the building was once King's College, now Columbia University. I am not sure where the building was on Park Place, in relation to the proposed mosque; however, I do not believe it can be far, as the crow flies, since there are not many blocks to City Hall from Ground Zero.


Thank for the information.

Shamelessly going completely off tropic I also find it interesting that the average age of college students was three or more years younger in the colonial period then now.

Hamilton in fact lied about his age being in his late teens when he applies to King College as he fear he might have been rejected for being too old to start college.

Fourteen to fifteen being a more common age for an entering freshman in the mid 1700s at colleges.

.
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BillRM
 
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Reply Wed 15 Sep, 2010 12:22 pm
@JTT,
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That's as cockamamie an idea as Hawkeye, Bill, Massagato, Ican, Okie, MM have ever had.


Thanks you I think. Wink
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