Mosque to be Built Near Ground Zero

@BillRM,

Were we any less hateful at times of war? Were we not savages?

@BillRM,

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It would be similar to if the Pope along with the Italian government would had in the name of Christianity placed that kind of a hit contract on a writer.

You don't know much about history, do you?

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@reasoning logic,

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Were we any less hateful at times of war? Were we not savages?

Yes however we never fought a religion war on our soil and our one big civil war was amazing in the degree the two sides was civil to each other and there was no mass killing afterward as in common is civil wars.

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@BillRM,

I was refering to our abrahamic religion which dates way back before the USA!

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@DrewDad,

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You don't know much about history, do you?

More then likely I know one hell of a lot more then you do and it been roughly 500 years since the church had acted in the manner the Muslins are doing now.

So the Muslins are back in the 1500/1600 century and that can be annoying to the rest of us trying to live in the modern world.

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@BillRM,

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Even when hardly a day go by where Muslin body parts do not end up flying through the air by means of others Muslin bombs

Ya, about that, speaking of AMERICAN MUSLIMS:

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More than half of Muslims overall hold a very unfavorable view of al-Qaida — but only 36 percent of African-American Muslims do. Only one in four Muslims believes that Arab men conducted the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001. And most disturbing was what Kohut called "pockets of sympathy for extremism."

http://www.npr.org/templates/story/story.php?storyId=10330400

But we of course have a bunch a A2K'ers who want to picture them as all sweet and cuddly...who insist that this shrine to Islam 2 blocks from Ground Zero is about peace, when it is about territory.

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@reasoning logic,

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I was refering to our abrahamic religion which dates way back before the USA!

You have to made it a little clearer what you are referring to at times.

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

But we of course have a bunch a A2K'ers who want to picture them as all sweet and cuddly...

I remember reading about the Moslems FLAYING and then burying alive
one of their own, in retribution for some religious infraction.

I 've never tried that, but I imagine that must sting.

David

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@OmSigDAVID,

Try stoning to death as Iran is planning on doing to a woman.

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@OmSigDAVID,

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I remember reading about the Moslems FLAYING and then burying alive
one of their own, for some religious infraction.

I remember reading about how their religion teaches that if they kill enough infidels they get to go directly to heaven, and collect 30 virgins...which does not speak very well of either infidels or women, but we are not supposed to talk about that. It would violate the desired script.

To hell with truth, and to anyone who objects to a religion that glorifies both killing those who don't believe the right thing as well as denounces what we consider to be basic women's rights.

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@BillRM,

I will repeat it again my Quote: [ They do remind me of the old ways of our abrahamic faith! or am I wrong?]

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@hawkeye10,

hawkeye10 wrote:

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I remember reading about the Moslems FLAYING and then burying alive
one of their own, for some religious infraction.

I remember reading about how their religion teaches that if they kill enough infidels they get to go directly to heaven, and collect 30 virgins...which does not speak very well of either infidels or women, but we are not supposed to talk about that. It would violate the desired script.

To hell with truth, and to anyone who objects to a religion that glorifies both killing those who don't believe the right thing as well as denounces what we consider to be basic women's rights.

Do the virgins have a choice in the matter ?

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@OmSigDAVID,

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Do the virgins have a choice in the matter ?

No, And I think Firefly should explain how she can sleep at night when she is willing to support the rape feminists assault on men and the perpetuation of the rape scare in America pretty much to the death but when it comes to Muslims men who actually do mistreat women in ways that we have not done for a hundred years or more she wants to love them so much that she overlooks everything that Muslim women have to endure. There has got to be some very fucked up logic going on with her.

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@hawkeye10,

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...which does not speak very well of either infidels or women,

Well we are people of the book so we just will need to pay a head tax to our Muslin friends.

As far as women are concern our expert on women rights Firefly seem not to have a problem with the way Muslims men are taught to treat their women.

I am not an expert in their faith but it is my understanding that the virgins are not real women something in the manner of sex angels instead.

One wonder what happen to the women who die in the afterlife.

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@reasoning logic,

Ok does the Muslims of today act in a similar manner to our ancestors three thousands or so years ago?

In some ways.................

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@BillRM,

That's because you assume wrongly that all Muslim men treat their women as you think. That's so far from the truth and fact, you're just plain ignorant.

By your standards, do you know that many US men mistreat their women?

That's a fact. Have you ever heard of "women shelters?" Do you know what they are for? Probably not.

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@cicerone imposter,

Thanks for keeping us in check with reality!

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@cicerone imposter,

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That's because you assume wrongly that all Muslim men treat their women as you think.
That's so far from the truth and fact, you're just plain ignorant.

EVERYONE is just plain ignorant of literally trillions of things, imposter (except u, of course).

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@cicerone imposter,

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That's because you assume wrongly that all Muslim men treat their women as you think. That's so far from the truth and fact, you're just plain ignorant.

So because some Muslim men break with their religion to treat their women better then they should that change anything about the faith?

Stoning women is not part of any current western religion faith it is part of the Muslim faith and is currently being done in the name of that faith.

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Europe is alarmed that Muslim immigrants have not assimilated well, resulting in tolerance of intolerance, and pockets of wife-beating, forced marriage, homophobia and female genital mutilation. Those are legitimate concerns, but sweeping denunciations of any religious group constitute dangerous bigotry.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/09/12/opinion/12kristof.html?hp

I want to know the truth, and I try to spread truth, and if that gets me called a name so be it. I am quite certain that aversion to truth is more dangerous than what ever this bigotry is. I gather that Kristof does not agree.

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