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Democrats now want to Ban the War on Terror

 
 
erick24
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 04:18 pm
@Silverchild79,
Democrats will stop at nothing to try to convince the American people that the war in Iraq is not a war on terror, when in fact that's exactly what it is. Terrorists are trying very hard to make Iraq a problem for us - and they are partly succeeding. They know that the more bombs they use and the more blood they shed, it will be shown on the news and demoralize us. That's what they want. That's why they're there. And the liberal media just piggy-back the terrorists agenda by focusing on all the negative - the # dead, the amount of soldiers killed and wounded - making it all sound just so horrible and out of control. Guess what - war is horrible, but when fascist islamic terrorists want to kill us and destabalize as much of the middle east as they can - war is necessary. We must stand up to this terror threat. We cannot back down - and leaving Iraq will show the terrorists that we have backed down. They cheered when they saw the news footage of 9-11 - They cheered when they heard Harry Reid with such stupidity that the war in Iraq is lost - and they will cheer if we were to leave Iraq. That would be a defeat for us and a win for Islamic terrorists. Plain and simple. We Americans must unite and be steadfast against the terrorist threats that continually come our way. They will not stop - neither should we.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 05:09 pm
@erick24,
erick24;16970 wrote:
Democrats will stop at nothing to try to convince the American people that the war in Iraq is not a war on terror, when in fact that's exactly what it is. Terrorists are trying very hard to make Iraq a problem for us - and they are partly succeeding. They know that the more bombs they use and the more blood they shed, it will be shown on the news and demoralize us. That's what they want. That's why they're there. And the liberal media just piggy-back the terrorists agenda by focusing on all the negative - the # dead, the amount of soldiers killed and wounded - making it all sound just so horrible and out of control. Guess what - war is horrible, but when fascist islamic terrorists want to kill us and destabalize as much of the middle east as they can - war is necessary. We must stand up to this terror threat. We cannot back down - and leaving Iraq will show the terrorists that we have backed down. They cheered when they saw the news footage of 9-11 - They cheered when they heard Harry Reid with such stupidity that the war in Iraq is lost - and they will cheer if we were to leave Iraq. That would be a defeat for us and a win for Islamic terrorists. Plain and simple. We Americans must unite and be steadfast against the terrorist threats that continually come our way. They will not stop - neither should we.


It's time to fleece the flock.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 05:23 pm
@Silverchild79,
Democrats stand for weakness.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 07:29 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;16976 wrote:
Democrats stand for weakness.


Yes, and all your tough talk behind a computer amount to a lot :wtf: Go get your cleats and type some more bold sentences so we all know you mean business.
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lizwitch
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 11:11 pm
@erick24,
erick24;16970 wrote:
Democrats will stop at nothing to try to convince the American people that the war in Iraq is not a war on terror, when in fact that's exactly what it is. Terrorists are trying very hard to make Iraq a problem for us - and they are partly succeeding. They know that the more bombs they use and the more blood they shed, it will be shown on the news and demoralize us. That's what they want. That's why they're there. And the liberal media just piggy-back the terrorists agenda by focusing on all the negative - the # dead, the amount of soldiers killed and wounded - making it all sound just so horrible and out of control. Guess what - war is horrible, but when fascist islamic terrorists want to kill us and destabalize as much of the middle east as they can - war is necessary. We must stand up to this terror threat. We cannot back down - and leaving Iraq will show the terrorists that we have backed down. They cheered when they saw the news footage of 9-11 - They cheered when they heard Harry Reid with such stupidity that the war in Iraq is lost - and they will cheer if we were to leave Iraq. That would be a defeat for us and a win for Islamic terrorists. Plain and simple. We Americans must unite and be steadfast against the terrorist threats that continually come our way. They will not stop - neither should we.


The war in Iraq may be somewhat of a war on terror, NOW, but before we invaded Iraq there were no terrorists in Iraq. Dictators and terrorists don't get a long. In fact, the taliban and Saddam were pretty much enemies. Terrorists were not a problem in Iraq before we moved in - and even still I would say they should not be confused with the insurgents who are simply natives against the illegal occupation -

When you take a man - and destroy his towns, torture his innocent friends and neighbors, kill his family, bomb his place of worship - leave him unemployed and homeless - and take everything that he has ever known and love - what you have is a man with nothing left to lose but the hatred in his heart for those who have done this to him and his loved ones....viola - suicide bomber. What takes al-quida 15 years to make - we can manage in 3 years or less for them and we do.

A war on terror can not be fought with force - and shouldn't be fought with force. The enemy has no nation - has no collective place - it's a world wide problem that can only be handled diplomatically or with intelligence and covert operations. What we do when we invade countries like Iraq for no reason is help their cause and improve their conditions and power. We become more and more hated as we brutally move with no real goal or real reason to do so - we have made a damned terrorist recruiting hayday over there in the middle of the sectarian violence and the war.

And don't you be fooled eric - this war is neither a war on terror or what the dems or republicans say it is - it's a damned racket. A damned shame - that our loved ones in the military are cannon fodder to those making millions off this war - and it ain't you and me - we pay for it with our loved ones blood in the military and our tax dollars - not the politicians. Be clear - they are ALL liars up there on capital hill - they don't care about us or our well being - Watch what they do and not what they say.
Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 11:15 pm
@Silverchild79,
Then we need to vote them all out and get our own liars in there.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 02:48 pm
@Silverchild79,
Quote:
When you take a man - and destroy his towns, torture his innocent friends and neighbors, kill his family, bomb his place of worship - leave him unemployed and homeless - and take everything that he has ever known and love - what you have is a man with nothing left to lose but the hatred in his heart for those who have done this to him and his loved ones....viola - suicide bomber. What takes al-quida 15 years to make - we can manage in 3 years or less for them and we do.


Yes, we should all try to understand suicide bombers. And of course, this must be the case with all of them, right? Wrong. They're usually inspired by faith, they want to fight for Islam and conquer the world, or get to Paradise for the 72 virgins. A person without that, a strong sense of pride in or loyalty to something (for example, Kamikaze), or severe mental issues does not want to be a suicide bomber, they want to live to see their enemies fall.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 05:34 pm
@Silverchild79,
"Yes, and all your tough talk behind a computer amount to a lot Go get your cleats and type some more bold sentences so we all know you mean business."

Yeah, right. Look who is talking -- a guy who calls himself 'muthafugga' and points the muzzle of a gun into a camera to make his avatar. While I'm putting on my cleats, you'd better load that gun of yours. If you don't drop me with the first slug, I will mash your bag.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 06:04 pm
@Silverchild79,
Hahahahahahahahaha

I'mma shakin'furiously lol

I do actually think it's really funny all the **** you talk about killing muslims, get off your computer and go do it, hell, I have.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 06:11 pm
@Silverchild79,
You have......and yet still play with guns and jangle your gonads in front of the mirror? Were you like that before you deployed?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 06:26 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;17104 wrote:
You have......and yet still play with guns and jangle your gonads in front of the mirror? Were you like that before you deployed?


Come on, where's my bag mashing?
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 07:33 pm
@Silverchild79,
You'll get it as soon as you put your toy guns away.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 07:41 pm
@Silverchild79,
Do we really have to degenerate into childish insult exchanging? You both have a wonderful talent for pissing people off, accept it don't take eachother's insults personally and please be civilized.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 07:42 pm
@Silverchild79,
** in the interest of reducing internet drama this post has been removed by 92b16vx
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 08:10 pm
@Silverchild79,
"You both have a wonderful talent for pissing people off, accept it don't take eachother's insults personally and please be civilized."

Hey....I'm as chilled out as a frozen cucumber spread-eagled on an iceburg. It was Rambo The Sequel who started this mess by talking chit. If he wants respect, he's gotta give it.
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erick24
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 09:12 pm
@lizwitch,
Liz -

The first thing you said - "before we invaded Iraq there were no terrorists in Iraq." - Really. And just how is it that you know that? I think you need to be careful when you present something as fact that cannot possibly be known. I mean, before the war began, out of every single person in Iraq at that time - not 1 terrorist? Wow!

The second thing that you said, "When you take a man - and destroy his towns, torture his innocent friends and neighbors, kill his family, bomb his place of worship - leave him unemployed and homeless - and take everything that he has ever known and love...." - Sounds a lot like what Saddam and his buddies did to the Iraqi people for decades, don't you think? But in saying this, are you trying to tell me that the U.S. military is doing this to the Iraqi people? Do you think our military is over there to destroy innocent people's towns, torture them, etc.... just because? Is that what you think? I feel sorry for you that the liberal media has indoctrinated and brainwashed you to such a point that you actaully think WE are the ones causing the pain and suffering of these innocent people.

You seem to think, like so many Bush haters out there that we went to Iraq to start a war just beacuse. No real reason. Just because Bush is a warmonger, a Saddam hater, etc...etc...etc.... - Let me try to make this clear, because the plain and simple facts about what happened leading up to the war in Iraq get so overshadowed by so much Bush hating rhetoric that it just blows me away. The U.S. was attacked, not unlike what happened at Pearl Harbour years ago. US intelligence kicked into overdrive to try to find out all who were behind it, supported it, funded it, etc.... Shortly thereafter, you have a known US hating regime with Saddam Hussein at it's head who is thumbing his nose at the U.N., the U.S., and the world, saying you cannot come into my country to see if we are plotting terror. You cannot come into our country to see if we have weapons of mass destruction. Saddam violated 17 U.N. resolutions. 17! At the same time, you have the head of the CIA saying - "without a doubt, Saddam has weapons of mass destruction." The challenge that our country faced at this time, having recently been attacked, The Iraqi leader not comlying with the U.N., intelligence indicating they had weapons that could potentially be used against us - we attacked. We had no choice.

It is so easy to say now, 5 years removed from that time that it was so wrong to invade Iraq, to be a Bush hater and jump on the "the U.S. is creating more terrorists by fighting them" bandwagon.

You say, "A war on terror can not be fought with force - and shouldn't be fought with force." That is so completely wrong. All terrorists know is force. All they know is killing. That must to be met with force. If not, they will not stop killing until the people or nation they hate is "wiped off the map". - Sound familiar? Our buddy in Iran likes to say that a lot.

Listen, I understand the war in Iraq is hard. It's hard to see innocent people caught in the middle of a conflict like this. But if we back down, you will be seeing the same thing on your street someday. The Islamic fascist terrorist movement has 1 goal - Kill Americans and Israelis until there are no more to kill. If we don't fight them there, we will be fighting them here. Which would you prefer? We didn't start this fight. We were attacked on an unprecedented level on 9-11. The terrorists upped the game, and thankfully we responded. The battle ground for this war right now is in Iraq. The terrorists know this. I feel bad for the innocent Iraqi people. I do. War is hard. Hard to watch. Hard to conduct. Hard to be a part of, and hard to be caught in the middle of - but when freedom is attacked, when democracy is attempted to be torn down, and when cowards hide in jet planes filled with innocent people and slammed into buildings just to kill as many people as possible - innocent people - war is justified and necessary, and that is the ONLY way to defeat this horrible problem that we call terrorism. You may not like it. I may not like it. But it must be done. And all Americans should look past the stupid partisan hatred that is so out of control right now and unite together as one nation, and stand up to those whow want to kill us and do us harm. Do you not want to defend your freedom? Do you not want to defend your family, your friends, your loved ones from harm? Because these terrorists would not hesitate to take you or your loved ones out of this world in an instant. I don't know about you, but that fact alone gives me the strength and steadfast determination that I am willing to do whatever it takes to defend my freedom, my home, my country, my family and those that I love from the despicable terrorists that want to strike me and my family down, just because of who I am and the freedom that I stand for. If we would all just stand together, we could defeat this threat to our freedom. I wish we could. I really wish we could.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 09:42 pm
@Silverchild79,
Well said erick.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 10:04 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;17141 wrote:
Well said erick.


Not really, it's the same old neocon rhetoric that everyone that tries to justify their stance on the war spews, nothing new or insightful.
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 10:11 pm
@Silverchild79,
Very well said, Erick. Truth in your words as well as thought , too bad some are too indoctrinated in liberalism/socialism/globalization to see it.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 22 May, 2007 11:25 pm
@Curmudgeon,
Curmudgeon;17153 wrote:
too bad some are too indoctrinated in liberalism/socialism/globalization to see it.


Too bad some are too indoctrinated with pseudopatriotism to see the truth.
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