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Democrats now want to Ban the War on Terror

 
 
I Understand
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 03:25 pm
@Silverchild79,
Of course you should protect the American from terrorism. The terrorism we rightfully deserve because of the hatred our country has enraged the middle eastern countries. In other words they are not pissed off for no reason or for religious reasons. Because out of the billions of Muslims in the world there are only a small percentage of radicals. They are not jealous of our freedoms, they don't want to live in a warzone as much as you think they do. They want freedom from oppression themselves. If some enemy force was occupying my neighborhood and killing innocent people(and yes they are killing innocent people because i know several people that have been to Iraq several times), I would fight back also. You would also. So you can't blame them for being insurgencies. If they were occupying our country there would be insurgencies against the occupying countries.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 05:51 pm
@Silverchild79,
Crap. They only want one thing -- murder. Their entire way of life is based on killing people. Look at the living nightmare Afghanistan became under their maniacal rule. I say blow'm up, now.
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trappedbyparties
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 07:44 pm
@I Understand,
I Understand;15911 wrote:
Of course you should protect the American from terrorism. The terrorism we rightfully deserve because of the hatred our country has enraged the middle eastern countries. In other words they are not pissed off for no reason or for religious reasons. Because out of the billions of Muslims in the world there are only a small percentage of radicals. They are not jealous of our freedoms, they don't want to live in a warzone as much as you think they do. They want freedom from oppression themselves. If some enemy force was occupying my neighborhood and killing innocent people(and yes they are killing innocent people because i know several people that have been to Iraq several times), I would fight back also. You would also. So you can't blame them for being insurgencies. If they were occupying our country there would be insurgencies against the occupying countries.



No your reasoning is scewed again. They are offered tons of money that they will never have a chance to put their hands on again. And if they resist they, they're families, thier friends will all be killed. It's funny that we constantly hears them asking us to stay, yet all of you libs tell us they are demanding us to leave. As a matter of fact the NOW leader of Iraq has asked that we stay to help untill they can get a defense for their country. Personaly i don't think that is them being pissed off and fighting us so we will leave. The funny thing is that the terror networks work alot like the liberal network. PROPAGANDA! Videos of self proclaimed "faith": terrorists. The inconvenient truth: Liberals. Just one example out of many. Here are some terms infedels:terrorists; fearmongerers:liberals. End of lesson.......for now!
I Understand
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 09:16 pm
@Silverchild79,
So the puppet Iraqi president wants us to stay there? The President!! Very good argument my friend..
The insurgents are there because they don't like us occupying there home! I know multiple people who were told to shoot anything that moves. I have heard the horror stories first hand. That my friend creates resistance. If you think we are in Iraq baking cookies and being humanitarians then you are on some good crack. Not only are we losing physical lives, we are losing mental lives. A couple of my good buddies were in Iraq and came back, but they didn't come back mentally. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder has them to a point where they can't leave there house without a severe anxiety attack. Fox News has you hooked eh?
92b16vx
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 09:45 pm
@trappedbyparties,
trapped.by.parties;15957 wrote:
No your reasoning is scewed again. They are offered tons of money that they will never have a chance to put their hands on again. And if they resist they, they're families, thier friends will all be killed. It's funny that we constantly hears them asking us to stay, yet all of you libs tell us they are demanding us to leave. As a matter of fact the NOW leader of Iraq has asked that we stay to help untill they can get a defense for their country. Personaly i don't think that is them being pissed off and fighting us so we will leave. The funny thing is that the terror networks work alot like the liberal network. PROPAGANDA! Videos of self proclaimed "faith": terrorists. The inconvenient truth: Liberals. Just one example out of many. Here are some terms infedels:terrorists; fearmongerers:liberals. End of lesson.......for now!


Ignorance must be bliss. Sorry dude, no one in Iraq wants us there outside the puppets we pull the strings of, and even they would rather us gone. Even the civilians that make tons of cash on bases want us gone, and yes, I heard it straight from their mouths.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 10:46 pm
@I Understand,
I Understand;15963 wrote:
So the puppet Iraqi president wants us to stay there? The President!! Very good argument my friend..
The insurgents are there because they don't like us occupying there home! I know multiple people who were told to shoot anything that moves. I have heard the horror stories first hand. That my friend creates resistance. If you think we are in Iraq baking cookies and being humanitarians then you are on some good crack. Not only are we losing physical lives, we are losing mental lives. A couple of my good buddies were in Iraq and came back, but they didn't come back mentally. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder has them to a point where they can't leave there house without a severe anxiety attack. Fox News has you hooked eh?
Don't you live in Boston? I think your the one on crack?
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 14 May, 2007 10:50 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;15968 wrote:
Ignorance must be bliss. Sorry dude, no one in Iraq wants us there outside the puppets we pull the strings of, and even they would rather us gone. Even the civilians that make tons of cash on bases want us gone, and yes, I heard it straight from their mouths.

If you can prove more then you say, maybe well get two sticks to rub together?
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 04:55 am
@Silverchild79,
Democrats are nostalgic for the Clinton days. They foolishly believe that if the Clintons are reinstalled, all their sentimental themes of minority ascendancy, welfare statism and clever economic prosperity will once again prevail in America. They won't. Times have drastically changed. The Clintons will not be able to extricate the U.S. from Iraq, despite their deceitful promises, and that will make all the difference in the world. The war, Middle East politics and economic distress will characterize the coming years, and the Clintons' domestic, social engineering projects will be an utter waste of valuable time and energy. Wait and see. The Hildabeast is going to govern during, and directly help precipitate, one of the most chaotic and internally destructive periods in American history.
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 06:47 am
@Silverchild79,
Republicans need to get one or two of the 10 or so possible candidates and get behind them wholeheartedly. I don't think it is a given that the Democrats will win the White House.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 06:58 am
@Silverchild79,
I'm just waiting for Newt or Fred Thompson.
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Curmudgeon
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 07:30 am
@Silverchild79,
Either of those could be a good candidate. I hear Newt is close to announcing, and Thompson is off Law and Order now, so he can run.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 07:40 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;15971 wrote:
If you can prove more then you say, maybe well get two sticks to rub together?


Sorry guy, I forgot to record the hundreds of conversations I had WITH Iraqis while I was there. If you really think that anyone even the puppet we enpowered, wants another military force occupying their country, well,...would you? Yes, MANY of the Iraqis are thankful, and even happy that we came and did what we did, but it's time to go. Or presence there is not going to change centuries of religious beliefs, and their whole system of living is based on those beliefs. The schism between factions there is so far from unrepairable it isn't even funy.
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rugonnacry
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 08:35 am
@Curmudgeon,
Curmudgeon;12711 wrote:
Our non-use of the air power we have is another contributor to the inability to win in Iraq .



You forget people do Live in Iraq. People that we are NOT trying to kill.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 01:42 pm
@Silverchild79,
What? No one in Iraq wants us there? A fairly large minority of Shia and a substantial majority of Kurds want us there, it's just the Sunnis that are somewhere in the high teens of percentages that want us there.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 05:41 pm
@Silverchild79,
Yep....the savages murdered our troops in their captivity. Every time this happens, we should do something similar to the nearest radical Muslim cleric. Bring back the Phoenix Program.
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trappedbyparties
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 08:24 pm
@I Understand,
I Understand;15963 wrote:
So the puppet Iraqi president wants us to stay there? The President!! Very good argument my friend..
The insurgents are there because they don't like us occupying there home! I know multiple people who were told to shoot anything that moves. I have heard the horror stories first hand. That my friend creates resistance. If you think we are in Iraq baking cookies and being humanitarians then you are on some good crack. Not only are we losing physical lives, we are losing mental lives. A couple of my good buddies were in Iraq and came back, but they didn't come back mentally. Post Traumatic Stress Disorder has them to a point where they can't leave there house without a severe anxiety attack. Fox News has you hooked eh?


These so called puppets are fearing for thier lives. If we leave they know they will be killed in order for the terrorist orginizations to take over that country. They don't have a strong enough defense system as of yet. Yeah most of the terrorists are from other countries, but that is irrelevant, they(the terrorists) want us to leave so they can take over and run the country based on thier fanatical religious beliefs. What you don't realize is that you are nothing special. I live in Texas, I have a whole shitload of friends not to mention family members who are over there. since i was a junior in high school i have had friends over there. I worked with one of the guys who captured sudam, at stewert and stevenson where i built the trucks for the millitary. Not to mention a few hundren other marines and army men and women who were hired right on after their tour was up. My freaking current boss is an ex-marine. I hear exactly whats going on over there as well. As i do not believe soilders should be turned into world police officers. The Iraq government deserves a well trained national defense. They are asking for us to stay and train and the way we train is also with field training. We have to be there to train them in the field. Fox news has nothing to do with my opinions or information, Do not attempt to insult my intelligence by implying i am a sheep in the fox news flock. I can't stand telivision news, i never get my information from television news. As a matter of fact, i hardly ever watch television. And never watch the news. And 92b16vx, How long has it been since you have been over there? Just out of curiousity.
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 09:27 pm
@Silverchild79,
It's been a couple years, but don't try to say something like things have changed, because they haven't. I also have friends there right now, soldiers I was there with before.

Your remark about terrorist wanting us to leave so they can take over...I, even though no don't have any transcripts for drnaline to analyze and prove factual, do not believe this is true. Sunnis want the new Iraqi government to fail more than their Iranian allies. That country is not America, and it doesn't seem like Americans can comprehend, or understand why they do what they do. There will NEVER be peace in a country that has two or more religious factions struggling for political and religious dominance. Concept that would just seem like common sense to us, are so alien there, and anyone that has been there, and dealt with the populace can tell you this, they do not get simply concepts of what we would call normal life. They wipe their asses with teh hand for christ sake. I was called the devil because I am lefthanded. HEre's a good one...one time we were doing a security detail, shortly after the elections. Well there's quite a few locals around and a fight breaks out. One of the Iraq police there with us shoots and kills a guy...no one really cared, the guys friend asks if he can have the dudes truck, and takes off in it, the cops load the body into the back of a truck, and drive off, nothing more was really said of it. It truely is a different world. The point being, we seem to think that our giant finacially backed penis is going to spread those mocha thighs and it's not, for the most part, they do not want us there, they may NEED us there, but want and need are not the same thing.

The biggest threat to Iraq succeeding is not "terrorist" from other countries, it's itself.
trappedbyparties
 
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Reply Tue 15 May, 2007 09:43 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;16099 wrote:
It's been a couple years, but don't try to say something like things have changed, because they haven't. I also have friends there right now, soldiers I was there with before.

Your remark about terrorist wanting us to leave so they can take over...I, even though no don't have any transcripts for drnaline to analyze and prove factual, do not believe this is true. Sunnis want the new Iraqi government to fail more than their Iranian allies. That country is not America, and it doesn't seem like Americans can comprehend, or understand why they do what they do. There will NEVER be peace in a country that has two or more religious factions struggling for political and religious dominance. Concept that would just seem like common sense to us, are so alien there, and anyone that has been there, and dealt with the populace can tell you this, they do not get simply concepts of what we would call normal life. They wipe their asses with teh hand for christ sake. I was called the devil because I am lefthanded. HEre's a good one...one time we were doing a security detail, shortly after the elections. Well there's quite a few locals around and a fight breaks out. One of the Iraq police there with us shoots and kills a guy...no one really cared, the guys friend asks if he can have the dudes truck, and takes off in it, the cops load the body into the back of a truck, and drive off, nothing more was really said of it. It truely is a different world. The point being, we seem to think that our giant finacially backed penis is going to spread those mocha thighs and it's not, for the most part, they do not want us there, they may NEED us there, but want and need are not the same thing.

The biggest threat to Iraq succeeding is not "terrorist" from other countries, it's itself.


No i understand that there will never be peace over there and that it is an area that have been fighting each other for thousands of years. I would just like to see them gain the capability to defend themselves. I had no intent to say it has changed. Sorry if it seemed that way, I was naturally curious. I do know that i strongly believe Iran and Iraq will become one eliment(i.e. forced conversion of the different sects(genocide)) if we leave and now we have conflict with Iran. I think we might end up back over there with more than just one country's worth of people to fight. In other words, two armies joined as one, and no telling who else will join them. I think we might be heading into the next world war. But this is all opinion and speculation. Just a thought more than an arguement.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Thu 17 May, 2007 04:43 am
@Silverchild79,
If our government refuses to fight terrorism, if it cowers before our ruthless, wholly uncivilized enemies, if it abrogates its responsibilities to secure the common good, it must be dealt with severely by a united, patriotic front.
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lizwitch
 
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Reply Mon 21 May, 2007 12:08 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;12660 wrote:
Democrats are hideous cowards and scoundrels. They alone deserve the fate the West's enemies have in mind for us all. :no:


Democrats are hideous cowards and scoundrels - just like the republicans. Neither party wants to really stop the war - Why? Well one look at their financial information - will tell you why - on both sides of the fence we have many congress and senate representatives invested in iraq contractors, defense contractors - and many of those companies who gave millions in campaign contributions and then we have AIPAC - which is another completely different subject matter.

Our enemies come from what is seemingly the american people's indifference. Many of the american people are indifferent to their government's actions- we are all too comfortable in the Americanway of life to really worry too much about what our tax dollars, military and leaders are doing to others. Our enemies come from our foreign policies - not our freedoms as the President would like us all to believe.
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