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Democrats now want to Ban the War on Terror

 
 
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Tue 17 Apr, 2007 06:37 pm
@Silverchild79,
I want to like Bush, but the true motives of the Iraq debacle trouble me, and always will. I see the carnage regularly at the local Army hospital. It's sad, big time.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Wed 18 Apr, 2007 07:23 am
@Silverchild79,
What i don't get is Iraq didn't start five years ago. It start under Bush 41. From that point it has not ended. One has everything and i do mean everything to do with the other. Is there anyone out there who doesn't understand that?
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92b16vx
 
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Reply Fri 20 Apr, 2007 11:30 am
@Dmizer,
Dmizer;12748 wrote:
Willie stated:
"Too bad you guys don't keep up on the news..."

Well, that about sums it all up for me. Seeing how that is where Willie gets his information from, is it any surprise he feels the way he does about his own country. The news agencies you subscribe to Willie have been attempting from the outset to negatively influence public opinnion. They attempt to damage our moral and undermine Americans confidence in their own fighting forces at every oppurtunity. It's sad really, that Americans can be convinced to care more, about what other countries think of them, then their own country. Since when did it become wrong to care more about your own country's interests then another countries interests. They used to call that treason, now they call it politically correct. Is it any wonder that other countries see America as a paper tiger? We are weakened from the inside by the same ones who view things as Willie does. Every other country in the world protects their interests first and foremost, whether it be oil interests or land or economic trade laws, only America has some of its own citizens calling for it to weaken itself by putting other countries interests first. How ludicrous is that?

Willie,
Do you believe we should put other countries interests before our own?


And it doesn't stop at foreign policy, democrats use the publics guilt continuously. The whole "for the children" slogan is ridiculous. Everything from social programs to gun control, democrats settle the blame on the wrong people and let our own guilt "guide" us to their way of thinking.

The easiest way to control a society is to polarize them in a crisis, give them something to fear, then offer the solutions. Cold war for the 21st century.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Fri 20 Apr, 2007 01:15 pm
@92b16vx,
92b16vx;13058 wrote:
And it doesn't stop at foreign policy, democrats use the publics guilt continuously. The whole "for the children" slogan is ridiculous. Everything from social programs to gun control, democrats settle the blame on the wrong people and let our own guilt "guide" us to their way of thinking.

The easiest way to control a society is to polarize them in a crisis, give them something to fear, then offer the solutions. Cold war for the 21st century.
I can agree with that, the only thing i would add is instead of "then offer the solutions" I would put " then offer what they believe to be the solutions."
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Soccrmastr
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 03:27 pm
@Silverchild79,
I always knew the true motives of the democrats, and especially the far left. First they will start with BS like this, banning "War on Terror", ruining presidencies and wars with he press, and seizing every opportunity they have to push their point to the American people. After they gain enough support, they will change the government workings and create their idea of a perfect socialist, flower dancing society. The role of politicians is not to change the government, but to run it.
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 07:25 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;12929 wrote:
Democrats are scummie, period. It starts in their crotch, with a hideous stench, and spreads over the rest of their bodies. Their brains are putrid, mushy, maggot-eaten, with grainy pebbles giving texture. When they blow their noses, brains pour out, drip over their lips, and plop onto their man-tools, which their men don't have, but their women do.


Pinochet...god...do u have any facts about anything other than IM RIGHT YOUR WORNG OOG AAGGG! your politics are prehistoric and all it is is name calling. I would hope if you want to debate in the future you do it with facts and prior (true) knowledge. I dont much like drnaline's point of view but at least she bases it on something and gives me a good debate.

and as for your statement on 1 republican could take 10 democrats i beg to differ. liberals and democrats have lots of skate punks and MANY of the minority vote. I bet any of them will kick your ass.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 07:31 pm
@Silverchild79,
do u have any grammar or speling knowledge at all. does ur keeboard have a shift key?

Come on seriously. Everyone needs to be made fun of once in a while without 'facts'. He's obviously being humorous.

Drnaline's a guy, or a very scary looking woman, from what I can tell by glancing at the picture thread.

We all know that Democrats have the skate rats and all the other scum of the Earth, but those guys are all scrawny. Have you seen former speaker Denny Hastert? He could sit on ten at the same time. Done.
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 07:39 pm
@Pinochet73,
Point taken on the humorous thing. but this is a serious discussion even though the bush administration is a joke.

however i still beg to difer on the beating up thing. u guys got all the tough hicks. true. but try taking a ghetto life, grew up in compton, shot 5 times, black dude. democrats have the majority of the black vote. Try taking a real westside crip.
Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 07:44 pm
@Silverchild79,
Republicans have the Mafia so they can kill Castro and other people if you believe conspiracies, at least now they're in power, and they'll always be the real gangsters to me. The Bush Administration is the target of so many jokes from people wo don't know what they're talking about it's hard to blame people for using any outlet they can for humor in the other direction.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 07:47 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;13357 wrote:
Republicans have the Mafia so they can kill Castro and other people if you believe conspiracies, at least now they're in power, and they'll always be the real gangsters to me. The Bush Administration is the target of so many jokes from people wo don't know what they're talking about it's hard to blame people for using any outlet they can for humor in the other direction.


Ok lets stop this BS about whos stronger than who. What we need to know is who is stronger than who politically. Anyway I can diss on Bush because i have facts to rightfully back up my oppinion.
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Reagaknight
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 07:51 pm
@Silverchild79,
There's two sides to everything, someone else might be able to disprove your 'facts' or explain them away. Democrats are too weak on foreign policy, we can't and shouldn't only be content if everyone likes us. Domestic policy, anyone can take advantage of the stock market, which is strong with the rest of the economy in most areas, if the 'working poor' waste their money they can't complain. The only failing institutions are liberal ones like Social Security and Healthcare.
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 08:01 pm
@Reagaknight,
Reagaknight;13363 wrote:
There's two sides to everything, someone else might be able to disprove your 'facts' or explain them away. Democrats are too weak on foreign policy, we can't and shouldn't only be content if everyone likes us. Domestic policy, anyone can take advantage of the stock market, which is strong with the rest of the economy in most areas, if the 'working poor' waste their money they can't complain. The only failing institutions are liberal ones like Social Security and Healthcare.


I agree about the two sides. But about foregin policy. We are not the "oh i hope everyone likes us" people. we are the "oh i hope we dont raise this debt to a national record. Oh shiit. thats already happen. what have we accomplished. hmmmmm.....notta lotta. Sadam's dead but where are the WMD's? Okay lets try to end it." people.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 10:29 pm
@Silverchild79,
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Okay lets try to end it." people.

Lets not and say we did!
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Mon 23 Apr, 2007 10:45 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;13399 wrote:
Lets not and say we did!


So why do you think that we need to continue the war in Iraq? There may still be some terrorists their but the reality of it is that we are never going to get every single terrorist. For many of them i would bet its easier for them to kill americans when their in thier country than thousands of miles away.

Also we have killed sadam (yay) and have found no WMD's. So what, in your oppinion, is the point of staying?
markx15
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 10:25 am
@Silverchild79,
If I were american I would prefer the front line of the War on terror to be in Iraq rather than in the USA.
92b16vx
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 01:56 pm
@markx15,
markx15;13476 wrote:
If I were american I would prefer the front line of the War on terror to be in Iraq rather than in the USA.


Problem is there aren't many terrorist there. It is surrounded by KNOWN terrorist countries Syria, Libya, Iran, and on and on, hell, even the known terorist there are from another country, Jordan. Does this mean that there's NO terrorist there? Of course not, but it is FAR from the hotbed of terrorist activity that the administration painted it to be. Quite honestly America would probably be doing MORE to fend off terrorist attacks in the US to pull out, and fight a much more intelligence based "war" from home base.
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markx15
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 03:08 pm
@Silverchild79,
Where are the terrorist suicide bombings focused? How many more attacks have you had on your homeland? Iraq is a diversion that avoids american civilian deaths, keeps the oil flowing, establishes greater american military supremacy in the region (keeping some warlords under check), and sets the stage for a possible attack on Iran if the proper steps are taken, from a military point of view the ocupation is a total sucess, from a civilian perspective it is unjustified carnage.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 04:19 pm
@IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY,
IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY!;13405 wrote:
So why do you think that we need to continue the war in Iraq? There may still be some terrorists their but the reality of it is that we are never going to get every single terrorist. For many of them i would bet its easier for them to kill americans when their in thier country than thousands of miles away.

Also we have killed sadam (yay) and have found no WMD's. So what, in your oppinion, is the point of staying?
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So why do you think that we need to continue the war in Iraq?

Where do you think the terrorists that we would be leaving behind would hit us next?
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There may still be some terrorists their but the reality of it is that we are never going to get every single terrorist.
Where would you rather fight the terrorists? On foreign or American soil?
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For many of them i would bet its easier for them to kill americans when their in thier country than thousands of miles away.

I don't know about that, the last time they came they got 3000 americans and took down a couple of buildings in one whack. It's taken us four years to loose that roughly same amount of lives lost. As an average our military usually loses between 1000 and 1200 men a year due to training accidents.
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Also we have killed sadam (yay) and have found no WMD's. So what, in your oppinion, is the point of staying

If we leave now the government will crumble. Mass murder will ensue. Will you be responcible for the millions who will lose there live's if we leave?
Drnaline
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 04:22 pm
@markx15,
markx15;13533 wrote:
Where are the terrorist suicide bombings focused? How many more attacks have you had on your homeland? Iraq is a diversion that avoids american civilian deaths, keeps the oil flowing, establishes greater american military supremacy in the region (keeping some warlords under check), and sets the stage for a possible attack on Iran if the proper steps are taken, from a military point of view the ocupation is a total sucess, from a civilian perspective it is unjustified carnage.
I agree with you there.
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IM-A-DEMOCRAT-BABY
 
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Reply Tue 24 Apr, 2007 05:13 pm
@Drnaline,
Where do you think the terrorists that we would be leaving behind would hit us next?

the reality is that we are never going to get EVERY single terrorist. we have killed off a lot which is a good thing but the Iraqis dont have the means to get over here.

Where would you rather fight the terrorists? On foreign or American soil?

obviously foreign but the iraqis are only going to hate the us more and more the longer we stay thier. also since 9/11 we have stopped around 5 attacks in America. And no one from Iraq can even get to america without going through like a 1 hour search


If we leave now the government will crumble. Mass murder will ensue. Will you be responcible for the millions who will lose there live's if we leave

The gorvernment their is not going to work. They can not accept a democracy. Fighting still continues with horrible car explosions. I do, however, agree with you on the mass murder part. But car bombs are still happening and people are still dieing. People died when Sadam was in power, people are dieing when he's not and even after we leave people are going to die. I think Iraq is a lost cause.
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