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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63023 wrote:

....because the last thing some Christians want is a level playing field. Anything christian must have special consideration, a consideration that is not afforded to any other religion.

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63051 wrote:

Isn't that the pot calling the kettle black?

Oh Please! Give me a break! :what:

When's the last time there was a menorah in a courtroom? When's the last time you saw a Buddha statue in a government building? When's the last time you sang "One nation under no god"? When's the last time you saw "In gods we trust" or "in no gods we trust" on currency? When's the last time congress opened with meditation rather than prayer? So don't even try to play that card!

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63063 wrote:

Oh Please! Give me a break!
When's the last time there was a menorah in a courtroom?

I've seen them.

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When's the last time you saw a Buddha statue in a government building?

Here in DC there are many.

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When's the last time you sang "One nation under no god"? When's the last time you saw "In gods we trust" or "in no gods we trust" on currency?

That would be kind of stupid to have in a nation founded by Christians and people who developed and came of age in Christian nations.

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When's the last time congress opened with meditation rather than prayer?

Last year.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63068 wrote:

I've seen them.

Here in DC there are many.

That would be kind of stupid to have in a nation founded by Christians and people who developed and came of age in Christian nations.

Last year.

Bullshit. Congress has never opened in meditation, sorry but that's just bullshit. You're gonna have to prove these things, i don't believe a word of it.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63068 wrote:

That would be kind of stupid to have in a nation founded by Christians and people who developed and came of age in Christian nations.

Point being:

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN!

so don't say a word about favoritism of atheism, because it doesn't happen and any insinuation that it does is bullshit.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63073 wrote:

Bull****. Congress has never opened in meditation, sorry but that's just bull****. You're gonna have to prove these things, i don't believe a word of it.

It happened on July 12, 2007.

Hindu Press International July 12, 2007

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63074 wrote:

Point being:

IT DOESN'T HAPPEN!

so don't say a word about favoritism of atheism, because it doesn't happen and any insinuation that it does is bull****.

Resorting to foul langauge is an indication you have a limited vocabulary. It is also an indication that you haven't got a coherent argument.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63086 wrote:

It happened on July 12, 2007.

Hindu Press International July 12, 2007

WASHINGTON, D.C., July 12, 2007: (HPI note -- We present today a series of articles on the opening of the United States Senate with a Hindu [SIZE="3"]prayer[/SIZE] by Rajan Zed of Nevada. Leaders of various religions have delivered [SIZE="3"]the Senate prayer[/SIZE], but this was the first by a Hindu. Astoundingly, it was interrupted by shouting Christian protesters from the Senate gallery, resulting in widespread news coverage to an event that might have otherwise gone little noticed.)

nice try though. Wink

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63087 wrote:

Resorting to foul langauge is an indication you have a limited vocabulary. It is also an indication that you haven't got a coherent argument.

:rollinglaugh:

That's funny! Me, have a limited vocabulary!? Sorry anybody that's watched me debate for the past several months knows that simply isn't true.

even if it was a matter of limited vocabulary, which it isn't. There is no word that has quite the same punch to it as BS. :thumbup:

But wouldn't it be better to stick to the argument.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63095 wrote:

:rollinglaugh:

That's funny! Me, have a limited vocabulary!? Sorry anybody that's watched me debate for the past several months knows that simply isn't true.

even if it was a matter of limited vocabulary, which it isn't. There is no word that has quite the same punch to it as BS. :thumbup:

But wouldn't it be better to stick to the argument.

Yes, I agree. It would be best to stick to the topic of discussion. That topic is the establishment of a political party by and for Christians and Jews. It is not necessarily the history or religious leanings of the founding fathers or current or past secular, religious, or political custom.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63098 wrote:

the establishment of a political party by and for Christians and Jews.

We already have that, it's called the republican party! Very Happy

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63105 wrote:

We already have that, it's called the republican party!

Prove that statement. The republican party is not established by and for Christians and Jews. The republican party is like the democrat party. It embraces political expedience to win office and votes that are detrimental to our country's survival and way of life.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63125 wrote:

Prove that statement. The republican party is not established by and for Christians and Jews.

Well the fact that it's composed almost unanimously by Christians and Jews (99% is probably shooting a little low). And the fact that it often promotes the christian agenda, like faith-based intuitives or anti-abortion legislation.

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The republican party is like the democrat party. It embraces political expedience to win office and votes that are detrimental to our country's survival and way of life.

As do all political parties. Personally i'd do away with all political parties, but in practice that would prove to be quite difficult.

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@Volunteer,

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world might be saved through Him.
(John 3:16-17)

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63050 wrote:

If an atheist believes there is no such thing as God then why are they afraid to let people who believe God exists continue that belief?

There's no problem whatsoever believing in the deity of your choice. Making laws based around said deity and dogma is where the line is drawn. That means that your religion cannot be taught, in any form whatsoever, in publically funded schools. This also means that your dogma cannot be turned into law (an example of this would be banning beef to all because of the Hindu religion). You also cannot expect the science and research to bend to your religion (cdesign proponentists).

Believe all you want. Worship all you want. But that's all you get.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63147 wrote:

For God so loved the world, that He gave His only begotten Son, that whosoever believes in Him should not perish, but have everlasting life.

God did not send His Son into the world to condemn the world but that the world might be saved through Him.
(John 3:16-17)

May I ask for the relevancy of this statement?

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@Sabz5150,

Sabz5150;63149 wrote:

There's no problem whatsoever believing in the deity of your choice. Making laws based around said deity and dogma is where the line is drawn. That means that your religion cannot be taught, in any form whatsoever, in publically funded schools. This also means that your dogma cannot be turned into law (an example of this would be banning beef to all because of the Hindu religion). You also cannot expect the science and research to bend to your religion (cdesign proponentists).

Believe all you want. Worship all you want. But that's all you get.

That's your religion, not mine. That's your belief, not mine. Practice what you preach. As you said, keep your religion to yourself.

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63151 wrote:

May I ask for the relevancy of this statement?

Think about it.

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@Volunteer,

Volunteer;63154 wrote:

Think about it.

Again I ask, the relevancy?

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@Fatal Freedoms,

Fatal_Freedoms;63157 wrote:

Again I ask, the relevancy?

What day is today? Why is it significant? If you say you used to be a Christian, then you should know why we celebrate something today and what it is. The Word quoted in John 3:16 is the reason. How is that relevant to this discussion? You have a brain, use it. Crack open your Bible and read the book of John starting at the beginning. I bet you'll answer your own question.

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