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aaronssongs
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2007 05:36 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;29052 wrote:
OK, here is another analysis.

I don't need to ask you if you care. I know you don't. You don't care about yourself or what you allow yourself to think. Why should you care about what others think of you or your ideology/religion?

The reality is you should care about what you espouse. It matters to your end. Christ came to find and save. He came to reach people like you. If you open the door to Him, He can help you. If you don't, you'l endure separation. For that I am truly sorry but only you can change that end.


Uh, like my uncle used to say, "What you don't know, would fill volumes". You don't know me, or anything about me, other than from my postings...so do not presume anything. How much could you know of me, anyway? People have wound up "murdered" from thinking that they knew the other person on the other side of the screen...so don't go there with me.
Personally, I could give a rat's booty what you think about my ideology or my religious views... I do have a personal relationship with God, , the Holy Trinity, and I don't require judgements or advice on how to from anyone, least of all, the likes of you.
Christ did come to "find and save"...and he found me...who are you to say He didn't or that I'm confused? That is your arrogance and your self-righteousness talking..
Notice I haven't asked you, How's your standing with Christ? If He was to come tomorrow, would you be ready? From your rhetoric, I'd say you have plenty "house cleaning" to do, but you know that's not my call, and I have the sense to know better
Haven't you heard, "Pride goeth before a fall", Or "Remove the log from your eye, before you adjust your neighbor's toothpick"...stuff like that...you ought to read Proverbs (at least, more often)...you'd stand to learn the volumes you lack.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Fri 3 Aug, 2007 06:11 pm
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;28655 wrote:
Strange you would know this, have you been diagnosed?


Aaron is one of the most anti-social people I have ever encountered online. I can't even stand to read his posts anymore. Good luck, guys. :headbang:
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 07:45 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29067 wrote:
Uh, like my uncle used to say, "What you don't know, would fill volumes". You don't know me, or anything about me, other than from my postings...so do not presume anything. How much could you know of me, anyway? People have wound up "murdered" from thinking that they knew the other person on the other side of the screen...so don't go there with me.


Oh really? Are you threatening me with murder? Such anger! Shame on you.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 07:48 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29067 wrote:
Uh, like my uncle used to say, "What you don't know, would fill volumes". You don't know me, or anything about me, other than from my postings...so do not presume anything. How much could you know of me, anyway? People have wound up "murdered" from thinking that they knew the other person on the other side of the screen...so don't go there with me.


A man's mouth speaks from his heart. What is in his heart overflows into what he says and does.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 07:50 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29067 wrote:
...Notice I haven't asked you, How's your standing with Christ? If He was to come tomorrow, would you be ready? .


_____Yes.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 08:50 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29067 wrote:
...Haven't you heard, "Pride goeth before a fall", Or "Remove the log from your eye, before you adjust your neighbor's toothpick"...stuff like that...you ought to read Proverbs (at least, more often)...you'd stand to learn the volumes you lack.


The full text of the Scripture you reference has a different meaning from the one you intend. You intend to use that phrase to say, "mind your own business." The Scripture shows its intent. Its intent is to tell believers, to look at the fruit each produces and help each other to produce good fruit. We are to help each other understand Scripture (God's Word) so we can live according to His Word.

Here is the full quote, again:

Luke 6, “On a Sabbath, He passed through the grainfields. His disciples were picking heads of grain, rubbing them in their hands, and eating them. But some of the Pharisees said, "Why are you doing what is not lawful on the Sabbath?"

Jesus answered them, "Haven't you read what David and those who were with him did when he was hungry—how he entered the house of God, and took and ate the sacred bread, which is not lawful for any but the priests to eat? He even gave some to those who were with him." Then He told them, "The Son of Man is Lord of the Sabbath."

On another Sabbath He entered the synagogue and was teaching. A man was there whose right hand was paralyzed. The scribes and Pharisees were watching Him closely, to see if He would heal on the Sabbath, so that they could find a charge against Him. But He knew their thoughts and told the man with the paralyzed hand, "Get up and stand here." So he got up and stood there. Then Jesus said to them, "I ask you: is it lawful on the Sabbath to do good or to do evil, to save life or to destroy it?" After looking around at them all, He told him, "Stretch out your hand." He did so, and his hand was restored. They, however, were filled with rage and started discussing with one another what they might do to Jesus.

During those days He went out to the mountain to pray and spent all night in prayer to God. When daylight came, He summoned His disciples, and He chose 12 of them-He also named them apostles: Simon, whom He also named Peter, and Andrew his brother; James and John; Philip and Bartholomew; Matthew and Thomas; James the son of Alphaeus, and Simon called the Zealot; Judas the son of James, and Judas Iscariot, who became a traitor.

After coming down with them, He stood on a level place with a large crowd of His disciples and a great multitude of people from all Judea and Jerusalem and from the seacoast of Tyre and Sidon. They came to hear Him and to be healed of their diseases; and those tormented by unclean spirits were made well. The whole crowd was trying to touch Him, because power was coming out from Him and healing them all.

Then looking up at His disciples, He said: Blessed are you who are poor, because the kingdom of God is yours.

Blessed are you who are hungry now, because you will be filled.

Blessed are you who weep now, because you will laugh.

Blessed are you when people hate you, when they exclude you, insult you, and slander your name as evil, because of the Son of Man.

"Rejoice in that day and leap for joy! Take note—your reward is great in heaven, because this is the way their ancestors used to treat the prophets.

But woe to you who are rich, because you have received your comfort.

Woe to you who are full now, because you will be hungry.

Woe to you who are laughing now, because you will mourn and weep.

Woe to you when all people speak well of you, because this is the way their ancestors used to treat the false prophets.

"But I say to you who listen: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you, bless those who curse you, pray for those who mistreat you. If anyone hits you on the cheek, offer the other also. And if anyone takes away your coat, don't hold back your shirt either. Give to everyone who asks from you, and from one who takes away your things, don't ask for them back. Just as you want others to do for you, do the same for them. If you love those who love you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners love those who love them. If you do [what is] good to those who are good to you, what credit is that to you? Even sinners do that. And if you lend to those from whom you expect to receive, what credit is that to you? Even sinners lend to sinners to be repaid in full. But love your enemies, do [what is] good, and lend, expecting nothing in return. Then your reward will be great, and you will be sons of the Most High. For He is gracious to the ungrateful and evil. Be merciful, just as your Father also is merciful.

"Do not judge, and you will not be judged. Do not condemn, and you will not be condemned. Forgive, and you will be forgiven. Give, and it will be given to you; a good measure-pressed down, shaken together, and running over-will be poured into your lap. For with the measure you use, it will be measured back to you."

He also told them a parable: "Can the blind guide the blind? Won't they both fall into a pit? A disciple is not above his teacher, but everyone who is fully trained will be like his teacher.

"Why do you look at the speck in your brother's eye, but don't notice the log in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother, 'Brother, let me take out the speck that is in your eye,' when you yourself don't see the log in your eye? Hypocrite! First take the log out of your eye, and then you will see clearly to take out the speck in your brother's eye.

"A good tree doesn't produce bad fruit; on the other hand, a bad tree doesn't produce good fruit. For each tree is known by its own fruit. Figs aren't gathered from thorn bushes, or grapes picked from a bramble bush. A good man produces good out of the good storeroom of his heart. An evil man produces evil out of the evil storeroom, for his mouth speaks from the overflow of the heart.

"Why do you call Me 'Lord, Lord,' and don't do the things I say? I will show you what someone is like who comes to Me, hears My words, and acts on them: He is like a man building a house, who dug deep and laid the foundation on the rock. When the flood came, the river crashed against that house and couldn't shake it, because it was well built. But the one who hears and does not act is like a man who built a house on the ground without a foundation. The river crashed against it, and immediately it collapsed. And the destruction of that house was great!"
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 09:06 am
@Volunteer,
1 Corinthians 6, “Does any of you who has a complaint against someone dare go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels—not to speak of things pertaining to this life? So if you have cases pertaining to this life, do you select those who have no standing in the church to judge? I say this to your shame! Can it be that there is not one wise person among you who will be able to arbitrate between his brothers? Instead, brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

Therefore, it is already a total defeat for you that you have lawsuits against one another. Why not rather put up with injustice? Why not rather be cheated? Instead, you act unjustly and cheat—and this to brothers! Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit God's kingdom? Do not be deceived: no sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, or swindlers will inherit God's kingdom. Some of you were like this; but you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

"Everything is permissible for me," but not everything is helpful. "Everything is permissible for me," but I will not be brought under the control of anything. "Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods," but God will do away with both of them. The body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. God raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power. Do you not know that your bodies are the members of Christ? So should I take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Absolutely not! Do you not know that anyone joined to a prostitute is one body with her? For it says, The two will become one flesh. But anyone joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

Flee from sexual immorality! "Every sin a person can commit is outside the body," but the person who is sexually immoral sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a sanctuary of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body.”

If this Word was not the Word of God, men would pay it no attention and go ahead an fulfill their desires. It is because It is the Word of God that anyone pays attention to It. If the Word of God can be prohibited from being spoken or taught, then those who are governed by their flesh will have no prod to "hurt" their consciences. That is really all a Chirstian does, prod someone's conscience by reminding them of the Word of God or rebuking behavior. Behavior is the outward sign of the inward person.

1 Thessalonians 2:15-16, "They killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and persecuted us; they displease God, and are hostile to everyone, hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. As a result, they are always adding to their sins, and wrath has overtaken them completely."

Christians are charged to be gentle to everyone, able to teach and be patient, instructing opponents with gentleness. This is with the hope that God will grant them repentance to know the truth. "Then they may come to their senses and escape the Devil's trap, having been captured by him to do his will."

1 Peter 16, "for it is written, Be holy, because I am holy."

1 John, 1:5 – 1:10, “Now this is the message we have heard from Him and declare to you: God is light, and there is absolutely no darkness in Him. If we say, "We have fellowship with Him," and walk in darkness, we are lying and are not practicing the truth. But if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say, "We have no sin," we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say, "We have not sinned," we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”
aaronssongs
 
  1  
Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 09:47 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;29095 wrote:
Oh really? Are you threatening me with murder? Such anger! Shame on you.



See how your mind works! I was implying that people on the net cannot possibly know who is behind the screens and what they're about...as predators and criminals portray themselves as innocuous and harmless, everyday, in their quests for victims. I, in no way, was implying that I am like that, or even that you are like that....I simply meant that you don't know me...not even from my postings. Don't flatter yourself, you're not that important.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 09:50 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;29096 wrote:
A man's mouth speaks from his heart. What is in his heart overflows into what he says and does.


Puh-leeze! Check yourself, before you come after me. I could quote The Bible, as well....but I would never use it to belittle anyone, and you have done, repeatedly. You're bitter, and self-righteous, and full of hate.
aaronssongs
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 09:54 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;29101 wrote:
1 Corinthians 6, “Does any of you who has a complaint against someone dare go to law before the unrighteous, and not before the saints? Or do you not know that the saints will judge the world? And if the world is judged by you, are you unworthy to judge the smallest cases? Do you not know that we will judge angels—not to speak of things pertaining to this life? So if you have cases pertaining to this life, do you select those who have no standing in the church to judge? I say this to your shame! Can it be that there is not one wise person among you who will be able to arbitrate between his brothers? Instead, brother goes to law against brother, and that before unbelievers!

Therefore, it is already a total defeat for you that you have lawsuits against one another. Why not rather put up with injustice? Why not rather be cheated? Instead, you act unjustly and cheat—and this to brothers! Do you not know that the unjust will not inherit God's kingdom? Do not be deceived: no sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, male prostitutes, homosexuals, thieves, greedy people, drunkards, revilers, or swindlers will inherit God's kingdom. Some of you were like this; but you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

"Everything is permissible for me," but not everything is helpful. "Everything is permissible for me," but I will not be brought under the control of anything. "Foods for the stomach and the stomach for foods," but God will do away with both of them. The body is not for sexual immorality but for the Lord, and the Lord for the body. God raised up the Lord and will also raise us up by His power. Do you not know that your bodies are the members of Christ? So should I take the members of Christ and make them members of a prostitute? Absolutely not! Do you not know that anyone joined to a prostitute is one body with her? For it says, The two will become one flesh. But anyone joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him.

Flee from sexual immorality! "Every sin a person can commit is outside the body," but the person who is sexually immoral sins against his own body. Do you not know that your body is a sanctuary of the Holy Spirit who is in you, whom you have from God? You are not your own, for you were bought at a price; therefore glorify God in your body.”

If this Word was not the Word of God, men would pay it no attention and go ahead an fulfill their desires. It is because It is the Word of God that anyone pays attention to It. If the Word of God can be prohibited from being spoken or taught, then those who are governed by their flesh will have no prod to "hurt" their consciences. That is really all a Chirstian does, prod someone's conscience by reminding them of the Word of God or rebuking behavior. Behavior is the outward sign of the inward person.

1 Thessalonians 2:15-16, "They killed both the Lord Jesus and the prophets, and persecuted us; they displease God, and are hostile to everyone, hindering us from speaking to the Gentiles so that they may be saved. As a result, they are always adding to their sins, and wrath has overtaken them completely."

Christians are charged to be gentle to everyone, able to teach and be patient, instructing opponents with gentleness. This is with the hope that God will grant them repentance to know the truth. "Then they may come to their senses and escape the Devil's trap, having been captured by him to do his will."

1 Peter 16, "for it is written, Be holy, because I am holy."

1 John, 1:5 – 1:10, “Now this is the message we have heard from Him and declare to you: God is light, and there is absolutely no darkness in Him. If we say, "We have fellowship with Him," and walk in darkness, we are lying and are not practicing the truth. But if we walk in the light as He Himself is in the light, we have fellowship with one another, and the blood of Jesus His Son cleanses us from all sin. If we say, "We have no sin," we are deceiving ourselves, and the truth is not in us. If we confess our sins, He is faithful and righteous to forgive us our sins and to cleanse us from all unrighteousness. If we say, "We have not sinned," we make Him a liar, and His word is not in us.”




Matthew 7:3--5 || Why do you see the speck that is in your brother’s eye, but do not notice the beam that is in your own eye? Or how can you say to your brother: “Let me take the speck out of your eye,” when there is the beam in your own eye? You hypocrite, first take the beam out of your own eye, and then you will see clearly to take the speck out of your brother’s eye.

See? Two can play that game. Hypocrite!
And this is my last response to any of your posts....I'll not argue with a fool.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 10:04 am
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;29095 wrote:
Oh really? Are you threatening me with murder? Such anger! Shame on you.


Volly, as the old saying goes, "Don't wrestle with a greasy pig. You'll only get greasy, and the pig will enjoy it."Very Happy
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 11:02 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29106 wrote:
See how your mind works! I was implying that people on the net cannot possibly know who is behind the screens and what they're about...as predators and criminals portray themselves as innocuous and harmless, everyday, in their quests for victims. I, in no way, was implying that I am like that, or even that you are like that....I simply meant that you don't know me...not even from my postings. Don't flatter yourself, you're not that important.


I know I'm not important. Are you?
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 11:03 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29108 wrote:
....I'll not argue with a fool.


I can tell.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 11:04 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29107 wrote:
Puh-leeze! Check yourself, before you come after me. I could quote The Bible, as well....but I would never use it to belittle anyone, and you have done, repeatedly. You're bitter, and self-righteous, and full of hate.


Not a bit of hate in me except for a biblical hatred of evil.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 11:18 am
@aaronssongs,
aaronssongs;29107 wrote:
Puh-leeze! Check yourself, before you come after me. I could quote The Bible, as well....but I would never use it to belittle anyone, and you have done, repeatedly. You're bitter, and self-righteous, and full of hate.


The Bible (God's Word) cannot belittle anyone. It can only enlighten, inform, elevate, and teach.

What belittles a man or woman is that individual's action, inaction, sin, and guilt. The contrast between what a man or woman thinks and does and what the Bible tells them about how they should should live is what causes the sinner to feel guilt and belittle themselves. There is no need to feel belittled. All the sinner has to do to avoid that feeling is to repent of their sin, accept Christ Jesus as their redeemer, and live their life accordingly. Simple.
Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sat 4 Aug, 2007 02:10 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;29145 wrote:
The Bible (God's Word) cannot belittle anyone. It can only enlighten, inform, elevate, and teach.

What belittles a man or woman is that individual's action, inaction, sin, and guilt. The contrast between what a man or woman thinks and does and what the Bible tells them about how they should should live is what causes the sinner to feel guilt and belittle themselves. There is no need to feel belittled. All the sinner has to do to avoid that feeling is to repent of their sin, accept Christ Jesus as their redeemer, and live their life accordingly. Simple.


Volly, I just want you to know you're one heck of a good Christian and patriot. You rock, and that's a fact, JACK!!!!!!:headbang: :headbang:
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2007 04:02 pm
@Volunteer,
All glory to God, Pino. It's His Word and His Son.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2007 05:08 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;29162 wrote:
Volly, I just want you to know you're one heck of a good Christian and patriot. You rock, and that's a fact, JACK!!!!!!:headbang: :headbang:


Thanks for the encouragement.
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Pinochet73
 
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Reply Sun 5 Aug, 2007 06:26 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;29267 wrote:
All glory to God, Pino. It's His Word and His Son.


AND..................His people. HOOAAAHHH!!!!!

"GO LIGHT (Infantry). FREEZE AT NIGHT. AIRBORNE!!!!!":patriot:
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 6 Aug, 2007 05:05 pm
@Pinochet73,
Pinochet73;29274 wrote:
AND..................His people. HOOAAAHHH!!!!!


Well, since we are the Body of Christ, and through Christ Jesus and His sacrifice since we have accepted His charge, yes.
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