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Bible Party of the USA

 
 
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 01:22 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21624 wrote:
Arguing on a computer is not what I mean. I'm talking about real life, not a virtual interaction on a computer.

At 16 you don't have the experience to know which way is up. Ok, you may have experience to know which way is up, but not much more than that.

At 16 in June, you should be out playing baseball or biking, or camping, or hiking, or chasing girls, or working in a job, or going to summer school, or mowing lawns, or painting the house for your mom and dad; or if you are priviledged to have economic and spiritual security, you should helping others to make their lives better.



Really?

I should be doing all of those things 24/7?
Volunteer
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 06:44 pm
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21689 wrote:
Really?

I should be doing all of those things 24/7?


Yes, every second.
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Sun 17 Jun, 2007 09:36 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21701 wrote:
Yes, every second.


By the way...

Summer school?

WTF?

That fits under the definition of "kicking ass"?
carryabigstick
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 10:17 am
@Tulip cv,
Tulip;10273 wrote:
l say you shouldn't mix business with pleasure, and likewise, you shouldn't mix religion with politics....


Well we can't all agree on that. I believe that you can't possably make a decission without consulting your faith. No matter what beliefs you have. The whole issue about mixing faith and polotics is just a cheap emotional tool used by secularists to say that Christians can't use there faith. Non christians use there beliefs all the time. Your theology comes out your finger tips. No matter what it is.
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 10:53 am
@carryabigstick,
carryabigstick;21766 wrote:
I believe that you can't possably make a decission without consulting your faith.


Yeah, some of us consult our reason.

They call us libertarians.
Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 10:54 am
@Volunteer,
They call you or you call yourself?
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 11:20 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;21786 wrote:
They call you or you call yourself?


Err, what else would they call us?

Non-conservatives/socialists/communists/fascists/anarchists/environmentalists/fundamentalists/utilitiarians?

Doesn't have the same ring to it.
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Drnaline
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 11:24 am
@Volunteer,
I haven't seen anyone call you a libertarian, i have seen you call yourself one though. I agree about the ring of it all.
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 11:30 am
@Drnaline,
Drnaline;21801 wrote:
I haven't seen anyone call you a libertarian, i have seen you call yourself one though. I agree about the ring of it all.


I don't need other people to call me a libertarian. I know what I am. They call us as a collective whole libertarians.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 07:49 pm
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21719 wrote:
By the way...

Summer school?

WTF?

That fits under the definition of "kicking ass"?


Hey, you can go to summer school to get a jump on the next year's courses. You just have to be ate up.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 07:57 pm
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21782 wrote:
Yeah, some of us consult our reason.

They call us libertarians.


Reason and faith are not mutually exclusive. Is God smart? If God is smart, wouldn't He want followers who worship Him of their own free will? If this is something He wants, wouldn't that mean He wants people to come to faith in Him through a process of rational thought and then maintenance of personal integrity?
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 07:59 pm
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21809 wrote:
I don't need other people to call me a libertarian. I know what I am. They call us as a collective whole libertarians.


Do libertarians believe in collectives?
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One Man Clan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 09:01 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21934 wrote:
Hey, you can go to summer school to get a jump on the next year's courses. You just have to be ate up.


No, you can't do that.

You can only take classes you've failed, and even then only non-elective classes.
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 09:03 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21937 wrote:
Reason and faith are not mutually exclusive. Is God smart? If God is smart, wouldn't He want followers who worship Him of their own free will? If this is something He wants, wouldn't that mean He wants people to come to faith in Him through a process of rational thought and then maintenance of personal integrity?


How exactly can you come to God through a process of rational thought?

Especially any particular God or gods.

Quote:
Do libertarians believe in collectives?


Duh. A collective is a group of individuals. We just believe that individuals shouldn't be punished as a collective.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 09:08 pm
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21953 wrote:
No, you can't do that.

You can only take classes you've failed, and even then only non-elective classes.


Well, as I've said before, school has changed radically since I went through. I took classes a year ahead in summer school to get a jump on the next year's classes.

I bet you don't have physical education (athletics) now either, just health and sexual education.
Volunteer
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 09:11 pm
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21954 wrote:
How exactly can you come to God through a process of rational thought?

Especially any particular God or gods.



Duh. A collective is a group of individuals. We just believe that individuals shouldn't be punished as a collective.


You can come to know God's values through reading His whole Word and thinking about it using logical thought patterns.

Collective farms etc...
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 09:49 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21958 wrote:
I bet you don't have physical education (athletics) now either, just health and sexual education.


We have the choice of it, I only took my mandatory year.
One Man Clan
 
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Reply Mon 18 Jun, 2007 09:50 pm
@Volunteer,
Volunteer;21959 wrote:
You can come to know God's values through reading His whole Word and thinking about it using logical thought patterns.


No no, how do you come to believe in him through logical process?

Please, walk me through it.

Quote:
Collective farms etc...


We don't believe it's wrong, unless mandatory. Stupid, perphaps, but not wrong.
carryabigstick
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 10:25 am
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21782 wrote:
Yeah, some of us consult our reason.

They call us libertarians.


How you reason is dependant on how you believe. I come up with the same conclusions as libertarians, however I have a different belief system so I draw my conclusions for different reasons. I'm very supportive of our constitution the way it was written originally. But it's not because my religion IS the constitution. It's because I believe that it does a good job of making law in a way that God would find acceptable. You believe the constitution to be true and know that it works. But you must have some Moral beliefs! Other wise you wouldn't care about murderers and rapists doing what they do. We all act on morals and beliefs. Infact we probably agree about most things. However I do my best to reason through the Bible. Now that isn't saying that I'm for a state church or anything silly like that. But that is because the Bible isn't for a state instituted church. Not because the constitution is against a state church.
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Volunteer
 
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Reply Tue 19 Jun, 2007 10:40 am
@One Man Clan,
One Man Clan;21971 wrote:
We have the choice of it, I only took my mandatory year.


That's why youngsters nowadays have heart, type 1 diabetes, and obesity problems.

Healthy body, healthy mind.

When I was in K-12, physical education (PE) was mandatory every year. There wasn't a question of not wanting to do PE, nearly everyone wanted to participate in PE, it got your blood pumping and out of the academic classes for a good period of time during the school day. It was a bit of summer in the middle of the day. Especially when playing team sports like baseball, soccer, football, etc...

The school systems were just beginning to get cheap and trying to cut less popular sports like gymnastics or field hockey, etc... This was in the mid 70s.
 

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