Atheism

@Frank Apisa,

It's still a stupid semantic dance frank. You argument against someone else's argument is they can't know God doesn't exist.

What do suggest their next course of action should be to prove or disprove their argument given your objection?

Really.

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@hingehead,

hingehead wrote:

It's still a stupid semantic dance frank. You argument against someone else's argument is they can't know God doesn't exist.

What do suggest their next course of action should be to prove or disprove their argument given your objection?

Really.

If anyone is doing a dance here, Hingehead...it is you. And for good reason, because you are completely in the wrong on this item.

You originally wrote:

Quote:

I haven't posted this anywhere near as often as you post your 'prove there is no possibility of god' notion.

I HAVE NEVER, EVER POSTED ANYTHING THAT DEMANDED PROOF OF THE EXISTENCE OF GOD OR THE NON-EXISTENCE OF GODS.

I have on many occasions stated that I think any such demand would be absurd, because it simply does not seem possible to accomplish either. It would be grandstanding...and only grandstanding.

So although you have suggested that I have posted such stuff often...I am saying that I have NEVER done it.

Yet instead of manning up and acknowledging that you are dead wrong on this...you are continuing to insist that you are correct...when you are blatantly wrong.

Dance all you want, Hingehead. It is fun to watch you dancing.

But make no mistake about it...I am not the one dancing.

As for "What do suggest their next course of action should be to prove or disprove their argument given your objection? Really."

I have already answered this. Anyone asserting "there is no god"...SHOULD STOP MAKING THAT ASSERTION.

I am not asking them to prove it...because it cannot be proven. NOBODY can prove there is no god. (If there is a GOD...it is at least possible to prove there is a GOD, but there is absolutely no way anyone can ever prove there is no GOD.)

So I would never ask for it.

I never have.

I never will

Your assertion that I have done it many times is ABSURD.

Try to work up the integrity to finally acknowledge that.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Spike, no two people are ever the same. I've had tons of applicants who were close but never the same. Do you see how spurious your thought game is getting? Now you're saying if two people are exactly the same and one believes in your flavour of god worship that makes them better. Even though they are exactly the same.

Better you worry about your stereotyping of christians. It's dehumanising.

Oh, and the percentage of atheists I know who've read the bible far outweighs the percentage of Christians I know who've read it. We've already seen that you haven't, with your made up quote from Matthew.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Any business owner who hires from job applications misses the most important aspect of hiring.

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@Frank Apisa,

Your denial is amazing. And you still haven't said what action you suggest the people whose arguments you've swatted down with your valuable insight should do to find the truth. Even at the most base level. If they proved the existence of god could we assume their argument was false?

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@Frank Apisa,

PS

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So although you have suggested that I have posted such stuff often...I am saying that I have NEVER done it.

http://able2know.org/search/?cx=partner-pub-3092869023721312%3Adw2qoa-tocz&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=Apisa+possibility+god&sa=Search+%C2%BB&siteurl=able2know.org%2Fsearch%2F&ref=able2know.org&ss=1236j513614j4

You often post the 'if there is a possibility of a god' thought. I can go and count them from that search, they don't all contain the line but plenty do based on a sample.

And I'm not even arguing against it. My question is, what use is it? Lets all pack up our brains and go home?

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@hingehead,

hingehead wrote:

Your denial is amazing.

And still you are at it. You are amazing.

Quote:

And you still haven't said what action you suggest the people whose arguments you've swatted down with your valuable insight should do to find the truth. Even at the most base level. If they proved the existence of god could we assume their argument was false?

Maybe the truth cannot be found. What they can do is to guess...if they are so inclined. But they should have the strength of character to call their guesses...guesses.

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@hingehead,

hingehead wrote:

PS

Quote:
So although you have suggested that I have posted such stuff often...I am saying that I have NEVER done it.

http://able2know.org/search/?cx=partner-pub-3092869023721312%3Adw2qoa-tocz&cof=FORID%3A10&ie=UTF-8&q=Apisa+possibility+god&sa=Search+%C2%BB&siteurl=able2know.org%2Fsearch%2F&ref=able2know.org&ss=1236j513614j4

You often post the 'if there is a possibility of a god' thought. I can go and count them from that search, they don't all contain the line but plenty do based on a sample.

And I'm not even arguing against it. My question is, what use is it? Lets all pack up our brains and go home?

You posted:

Quote:

I haven't posted this anywhere near as often as you post your 'prove there is no possibility of god' notion.

Since you are sure that I have posted "prove there is no possibility of god" many times...cite three cases where I have.

Just give links to where I have...and you will shoot me out of the water.

Ball in your court, Hingehead.

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@hingehead,

Whodathowtit?? hinge a member of the employing classes!! How ******* respectable can a man get? Do you have a marked off car park?

It is not possible to ask the question about preferring a Christian to an atheist employee without assuming all other things equal. One might assume that one was being insultingly tautological if one mentioned it.

You can make some great business contacts within religious organisations hinge.So much so that I think it might be their main function.

Everybody I have discussed the matter with has said that Christian ladies are best for bedwork. No exceptions. It's probably the pent up tensions from waiting a while.

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@hingehead,

hingehead wrote:

Oh, and the percentage of atheists I know who've read the bible far outweighs the percentage of Christians I know who've read it. We've already seen that you haven't, with your made up quote from Matthew.

I have no doubt you are spot on, hh.

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@neologist,

A Christian has no need to read the Bible.

One might though for the pure joy of the highest class of literary appreciation and/or learning the trade of writer.

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Reading the Bible, twice, cover-to-cover went a long way to convince me i was dealing with a pack of loonies.

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@farmerman,

O.K., you have it. You may write here: http://able2know.org/topic/226001-1

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@Frank Apisa,

I'm hitting this one between my legs running to the base line.

Thread: Atheists cannot KNOW there are no gods, but theists possibly can KNOW there is a GOD.
post http://able2know.org/topic/192088-1#post-5013275

Quote:

Anyway, as I said, theists can possibly KNOW there is a GOD, but atheists cannot KNOW there are no gods.

Thread: Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?
post http://able2know.org/topic/50511-990#post-4864635

Quote:

If there is the possibility of a god...there is the possibility of Intelligent Design.

Thread: I am a Buddhist and if anyone wants to question my beliefs then they are welcome to do so...
post http://able2know.org/topic/220485-35#post-5443534

Quote:

There is always the possibility that there is a GOD posting here...who actually DOES KNOW WHAT THE TRUE NATURE OF REALITY IS.

Like I've said I'm not arguing with your thesis - my question is why are you so prone to repeating it when it adds no more value than 'The moon is possibly made of orange juice'?

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@hingehead,

hingehead wrote:

I'm hitting this one between my legs running to the base line.

Thread: Atheists cannot KNOW there are no gods, but theists possibly can KNOW there is a GOD.
post http://able2know.org/topic/192088-1#post-5013275

Quote:
Anyway, as I said, theists can possibly KNOW there is a GOD, but atheists cannot KNOW there are no gods.

Thread: Intelligent Design Theory: Science or Religion?
post http://able2know.org/topic/50511-990#post-4864635

Quote:
If there is the possibility of a god...there is the possibility of Intelligent Design.

Thread: I am a Buddhist and if anyone wants to question my beliefs then they are welcome to do so...
post http://able2know.org/topic/220485-35#post-5443534

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There is always the possibility that there is a GOD posting here...who actually DOES KNOW WHAT THE TRUE NATURE OF REALITY IS.

Like I've said I'm not arguing with your thesis - my question is why are you so prone to repeating it when it adds no more value than 'The moon is possibly made of orange juice'?

What is your point?

Why are you repeating what you are repeating so many times?

I suspect it is because you feel like doing so...that you see value in doing so.

I see value in repeating some of the things I want to repeat.

But nothing here is asking for proof that there is no god...which is what you charged me with.

Why not be man enough to acknowledge that you were wrong?

If you are man enough, that is.

And if you think what I am saying about the nature of whether or not there is a GOD is the same as this silliness about the composition of the moon...

...you really need some rest time.

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@Setanta,

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Reading the Bible, twice, cover-to-cover went a long way to convince me i was dealing with a pack of loonies.

Who said you weren't?

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@spendius,

spendius wrote:

A Christian has no need to read the Bible.

Kind of like saying my 16 year old grandson has no need to read the drivers' manual. I mean, no matter what one thinks of Christianity, a Christian ought to have some idea . . .

BTW, drive carefully if you come to Snohomish County, Washington.

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@edgarblythe,

I didn't know about that until I read Set's comment a bit ago, must have missed your early in the day thread. Cripes.

It looks like the lead is not good at his job and that it will fall on you to occasionally attest to that to higher ups - so I wish for you that his mess ups don't always rely on reports from you. Or maybe he's only messing up on work and is trustworthy re personal stuff.

I too have never worked in a place that marked me for my religion (early days - I don't remember if I had to put religion down when I applied at turning sixteen at a hospital; wish I could remember that) or lack of it, for decades after that. Hospitals/university/private labs/university again/design firms/my own firm.

I'll say that it was congenial that my business partner and I were in agreement about a lot of stuff including uninterest in religion. We didn't have employees, we were it. But we had many many design clients and potential art buyers of varied persuasions. Never got into it with any of them, natch.

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@neologist,

You made me laugh.

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@neologist,

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A Christian has no need to read the Bible.

Spendi wrote that?

Wow. The word of God dismissed out of hand. Think of the problems we could have avoided if Martin Luther hadn't read it. And Gutenberg hadn't printed it.

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