Atheism

@hingehead,

That's a signature line hanging..

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The lead man is very good in certain ways. He fixes stuff to save money that I would have thrown away. But in some areas there is room for improvement. He appears to not know how to fix the carpet at the z bar (area where the carpet meets the tile flooring), despite the simplicity of it. Problem for me is, they have plenty of time to fix screwups right now, because they are all caught up on make readies and such. We are about 99% full. I don't think I would lose my job over my religious statements, but if I fell out of favor with the boss she would quit fighting for me. She overlooked a few problems about five years ago, that went against her liking, so maybe I am overly pessimistic.

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@neologist,

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BTW, drive carefully if you come to Snohomish County, Washington.

The universe being an orange pip is more likely than that.

hinge never thought of the pips.

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@edgarblythe,

I get you. Meantime, be yourself, she knows you are a good man.

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@hingehead,

Luther's problem was a sexy nun.

I hope he felt the normal amount of shame and disgust during the post coital euphoria. Not even having a Marlboro to light up he must have done.

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Hingehead said:

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@Romeo- you're saying if two people are exactly the same and one believes in your flavour of god worship that makes them better.

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@Romeo- Any business owner who hires from job applications misses the most important aspect of hiring.

1- A job applicant who says "i'm a Christian" is pinning his colours to the mast and letting the boss know that he'll never let him down, so i think it'd be good business sense to hire him.. Smile

2- Yes, at the interview any good boss will look beyond paper applications and will look at the applicant's personality, and a Christians good-natured easy-going cool calm personality will shine through.
"You might look good on paper, but so do fish and chips. It's personality that opens doors, and character that keeps them open"- millionnaire Lord Alan Sugar
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Frank Apisa said:

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I have been trying to make the point that what we call "evolution" may be the intelligent design of a creator GOD. We do not know if it is...or isn't.

Let's toss a few scientists quotes into the playpen-

"A common sense interpretation of the facts suggests that a superintellect has monkeyed with physics, as well as with chemistry and biology, and that there are no blind forces worth speaking about in nature."-Fred Hoyle (British astrophysicist): The Universe: Past and Present Reflections. Annual Review of Astronomy and Astrophysics: 20:16.

"There is for me powerful evidence that there is something going on behind it all....It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature’s numbers to make the Universe....The impression of design is overwhelming"- Paul Davies (British astrophysicist), The Cosmic Blueprint: New Discoveries in Nature's Creative Ability To Order the Universe. New York: Simon and Schuster, p.203.

"As we survey all the evidence, the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved. Is it possible that suddenly, without intending to, we have stumbled upon scientific proof of the existence of a Supreme Being? Was it God who stepped in and so providentially crafted the cosmos for our benefit?"- George Greenstein (astronomer),1988. The Symbiotic Universe. New York: William Morrow, p.27

"When confronted with the order and beauty of the universe and the strange coincidences of nature, it's very tempting to take the leap of faith from science into religion. I am sure many physicists want to. I only wish they would admit it."- Tony Rothman (physicist),Paradigms Lost. New York, Avon Books, p.482-483

"When I began my career as a cosmologist some twenty years ago, I was a convinced atheist, I never in my wildest dreams imagined that one day I would be writing a book purporting to show that the central claims of Judeo-Christian theology are in fact true, that these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics as we now understand them. I have been forced into these conclusions by the inexorable logic of my own special branch of physics."- Frank Tipler (Professor of Mathematical Physics), 1994 The Physics of Immortality. New York, Doubleday, preface.

"We know that nature is described by the best of all possible mathematics because God created it.."- Alexander Polyakov (Soviet mathematician),Gannes, S. October 13, 1986. Fortune. p. 57

"Here is the cosmological proof of the existence of God – the design argument of Paley – updated and refurbished. The fine tuning of the universe provides prima facie evidence of deistic design. Take your choice: blind chance that requires multitudes of universes or design that requires only one"- Ed Harrison (cosmologist),Harrison, E. 1985. Masks of the Universe. New York, Collier Books, Macmillan, pp. 252, 263.

"Who created these laws? There is no question but that a God will always be needed"- Barry Parker (cosmologist),Heeren, F. 1995. Show Me God. Wheeling, IL, Searchlight Publications, p. 223.

"This most beautiful system of the sun, planets, and comets, could only proceed from the counsel and dominion of an intelligent and powerful Being"- Sir Isaac Newton, Principia

"Mathematics is the language with which God has written the universe."- Galileo

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@Romeo Fabulini,

You could put another thousand quotes from people who blindly guess there is a GOD...and it would still be nothing more than a pile of blind guesses...no matter who is making the blind guessing.

But...there is the possibility that "evolution" is the intelligent design of a creator GOD.

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@Frank Apisa,

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You could put another thousand quotes from people who blindly guess there is a GOD...and it would still be nothing more than a pile of blind guesses...no matter who is making the blind guessing.

Ah, but professional scientists, astronomers and mathematicians such as those in my previous post DON'T make "blind guesses", they base their conclusions on- "A common sense interpretation of the facts" as one of them puts it.. Smile

Likewise, the other experts base their conclusions on their own observations-
"It seems as though somebody has fine-tuned nature’s numbers to make the Universe.....
....the thought insistently arises that some supernatural agency - or, rather, Agency - must be involved.....
.....these claims are straightforward deductions of the laws of physics.....
.....The fine tuning of the universe provides prima facie evidence of deistic design...."
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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

- Yes, at the interview any good boss will look beyond paper applications and will look at the applicant's personality, and a Christians good-natured easy-going cool calm personality will shine through.

Still looking for work, Romeo? Try selling on eBay.

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@Romeo Fabulini,

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Frank Apisa said:

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You could put another thousand quotes from people who blindly guess there is a GOD...and it would still be nothing more than a pile of blind guesses...no matter who is making the blind guessing.

Ah, but professional scientists, astronomers and mathematicians such as those in my previous post DON'T make "blind guesses"...

I thank you for your blind guess about what professional scientists, astronomers, and mathematicians do with regard to blind guesses...but the fact that some professional scientists, some astronomers, and some mathematicians blindly guess in the other direction...indicates that your assertion is an absurdity.

I doubt your pretend ego will allow you to acknowledge that...but who cares.

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...they base their conclusions on- "A common sense interpretation of the facts" as one of them puts it..

Yeah...even the non-professional blind guessers assert that. It is good for a laugh, but to make it part of your argument is even more laughable, Romeo.

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Frank Apisa said:

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@Romeo- the fact that some professional scientists, some astronomers, and some mathematicians blindly guess in the other direction...indicates that your assertion is an absurdity

Not at all chum, a "guess" is just an unsupported hunch, so when scientists like Dawkins say "there's probably no God" it's just a blind guess.
But when other scientists say "there probably IS a God", they're not blind guessing because they've based it on "a commonsense interpretation of the facts" as one of them put it.. Smile

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Frank Apisa said:

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@Romeo- the fact that some professional scientists, some astronomers, and some mathematicians blindly guess in the other direction...indicates that your assertion is an absurdity

Not at all chum, a "guess" is just an unsupported hunch, so when scientists like Dawkins say "there's probably no God" it's just a blind guess.
But when other scientists say "there probably IS a God", they're not blind guessing because they've based their conclusion on "a commonsense interpretation of the facts" as one of them put it.. Smile

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@Romeo Fabulini,

Romeo Fabulini wrote:

Frank Apisa said:

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@Romeo- the fact that some professional scientists, some astronomers, and some mathematicians blindly guess in the other direction...indicates that your assertion is an absurdity

Not at all chum, a "guess" is just an unsupported hunch, so when scientists like Dawkins say "there's probably no God" it's just a blind guess.
But when other scientists say "there probably IS a God", they're not blind guessing because they've based their conclusion on "a commonsense interpretation of the facts" as one of them put it..
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Romeo: he shoots, he scores!

You are an adolescent...either literally or figuratively...so best to just let you massage your own ego (an whatever else you regularly massage).

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Frank Apisa huffed:

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You are an adolescent...either literally or figuratively...so best to just let you massage your own ego (an whatever else you regularly massage).

Keep swinging at your little white balls mate, you've been stuck in that atheist sandtrap for far too long.. Wink

Jesus said "Everyone who hears these words of mine and does not put them into practice is like a foolish man who built his house on sand" (Matt 7:26)

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I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

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"Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful." [adapted]

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You're basically killing each other to see who's got the better imaginary friend

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Is God willing to prevent evil, but not able? Then he is not omnipotent. Is he able, but not willing? Then he is malevolent. Is he both able and willing? Then whence cometh evil? Is he neither able nor willing? Then why call him God?

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