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Gay Marriage Vote Passes in DC City Council

 
 
Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 01:15 am
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No big surprises in the first D.C. Council vote on legalizing same-sex marriage: the Council today voted 11-2 to approve the "Religious Freedom and Civil Marriage Equality Amendment Act of 2009," with Marion Barry (D-Ward 8) and Yvette Alexander (D-Ward 7) the only dissenters.

The historic legislation still needs to pass a second vote in the Council in the next month, at which point it will be sent to D.C. Mayor Adrian Fenty for his signature. Fenty has promised he will sign the bill.


More: http://dcist.com/2009/12/same-sex_marriage_passes_dc_council.php

I can literally hear the disco music coming from Dupont Circle.

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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 01:35 am
@Diest TKO,
Of course after the mayor signs it into law, a virtual bottle of Champagne Cuvée William Deutz 1998 will be toasted in DC's honor.
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Congratulations are in truly order. Beating out New York City for the rights to gay marriage? Surprised You earned your bragging rights (at least in this department).

It's ashame you'll never get the same chance to brag about your baseball team... [HA!] The Nationals are a sad sad joke! Razz
Ionus
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 02:07 am
If a man and a woman live together, there are entitlements if they move apart and one then claims it was a sexual relationship under defacto laws. What happens if two men are flat mates without a sexual relationship but one claims there was, as has happened in cases of a man and woman flat mates ?
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 04:00 am
@tsarstepan,
Yes, the Nats suck, the Skins suck, and United sucks (but I actually like them). Bonus to the Nats though because you can get Ben's Chili Bowl at the new stadium.

There is virtually no real presence of resistance here on this. I don't know if it was because the anti-gay-marriage groups didn't want to fund what they might have perceived as a unwinable fight or if perhaps they don't think one city matters in the grand scheme.

DC as a city, is a great place. We deserve bragging rights for a lot of things.

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jespah
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 07:31 am
@Diest TKO,
Heh, we've had gay marriage before it was a twinkle in anyone's eye down there in da Southland.

And, despite what a lot of people may have feared, the world has not irretrievably slipped its moorings and gone careening off its axis.
Thomas
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 11:33 am
@Diest TKO,
Good for DC!
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Foofie
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 08:36 pm
Similar to the heterosexual segment of society, there is likely more than one gay couple living together happily, that then have to make a decision about a more legal commitment, when a gay marriage bill is passed in their neck of the woods.

The words, "I want a ring! I want a ring!" will then not just be heard in the heterosexual community. The moral of the story for some may be like the fable King Midas' Touch - be careful for what one wishes for, one may get it.
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 11:14 pm
@Foofie,
What's your point? Homosexuals will be burdened? That maybe after they get the right, they'll wish they didn't have it anymore?

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tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 11:20 pm
@Diest TKO,
<<Sigh>> you are itching for a fight aren't you...?
Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 11:22 pm
@tsarstepan,
Idiots do make me itchy, but the right application of intellectual-talc helps you not scratch.

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Miss L Toad
 
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Reply Sat 5 Dec, 2009 11:40 pm
@jespah,
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a twinkle in anyone's eye


Barry and Alexander's misshit gay abandon surprises.

Yet tilting of the axis and inversion of the poleshappens.

Congratulations on the scents and sensibility.

I'm domosexual , I can clean it up .
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Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 01:17 am
Homosexuals want the right to get married so they can be mainstream. They are fooling themselves. The next step is to have children. After all, they are married, why cant they have children ? The first thing that comes to mind is you need two sexes, not the same sex with different names, one butch and one fluffy. Marriage already had enough problems without this.
tsarstepan
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 01:35 am
@Ionus,
Gay and lesbian couples in the United States already have families. Where have you been hiding? In a monastery in the in Tibet?

You've never heard of adoption, surrogate parenting, etc...?!

Homosexuals don't want marriage so they can be mainstream. That's a tad too oversimplistic and dismissive. Besides, the science of reproduction without a male partner is catching up to science fiction of Charles Eric Maine and his science fiction novel Alph.

I agree with many issues in the past. This is where I'm befuddled that you would choose to take sides of the closed minded....

Ionus
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 03:32 am
@tsarstepan,
Lets state what my closed mind thinks. True homosexuals are born, not made yet there are many examples throughout history of societies becoming homosexual. We have the Greeks and post renaissance Europe as two that spring to mind. I think it was Aristotle who said that homosexuality should be banned, but he had no illusions that it could be done. Manufactured homosexuality is based on stress and a hedonistic life style. It is based on self worship.

Homosexuality is a symptom of a mental problem that should be treated but it is very low on the list, and rightly so. We have mental health issues that are the equivalent of walking around with a leg half hanging off and people are complaining about the blood you are spraying around. Whereas the physical equivalent is obvious and people would criticise you for not seeking treatment for a lesser injury, very major injury in mental health produces criticism for seeking treatment, if not outright discrimination by being fired for example.

Marrying homosexual couples will eventually make it easier to get children. This is ignorant of the child's right to have parents, and interaction with parents, of both sexes.

Homosexuality has been too vilified in the past in our "Victorian" society. Some have been violent towards them, and this is just sad and pathetic that humans can not be accepted for what they are.

Homosexuals have been their own worst enemy in the past. At one stage some years back, there was an agreement to turn children not by true homosexuals, but by the hedonistic type. There have also been parties where young boys were in "attendance" and when one man was disgusted and left for the Police, he had to move overseas for his health. There was a pub in the centre of a major town where children gave head jobs under the table. Policeing has made major strides since then, with their own homosexuals being more aware of criminal homosexual undertakings.

The trick is to recognise the difference between born homosexuals and those who are manufactured, accepting those who are born homosexual with the reasoning there but for the grace of God go I, whilst helping those who are manufactured by addressing the real issues that are making them behave in that manner. And I mean help, not bash. But unfortunately, the problems that cause homosexuality to be adopted are far down the list. We have more important things to stop with a mental health program. But we should not over run a child's rights because they do not vote.
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dlowan
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 05:24 am
@Diest TKO,
Good luck to them!!!!!!!
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Diest TKO
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 09:54 am
@Ionus,
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Homosexuals want the right to get married so they can be mainstream.

I think having equal rights is the primary driver.

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The next step is to have children. After all, they are married, why cant they have children ?

Having children or the ability to have children is not a prerequisite to marriage.

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The first thing that comes to mind is you need two sexes, not the same sex with different names, one butch and one fluffy.

But you can't legally require that a child have two parents of opposite gender. If so, single parent families would be illegal.

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Marriage already had enough problems without this.

This doesn't create a problem for marriage.

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Foofie
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 02:04 pm
@Diest TKO,
Diest TKO wrote:

What's your point? Homosexuals will be burdened? That maybe after they get the right, they'll wish they didn't have it anymore?

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I thought I made my point quite clearly? However, if you would like a second attempt, here goes. Homosexuals are not one monolithic group. No one said anything about being "burdened." However, for every gay couple that will get married under any gay marriage laws, there could also be a gay couple where one of the couple was quite content to live without the benefit of marriage, for one reason or another, and with the advent of a gay marriage law, that couple then has to decide whether they truly want to legalize their union with the benefit of marriage. You know the old saying, why buy the cow, if one is getting free milk. So, not every gay couple may want the entanglement of a legalized marriage. That is what I was trying to say.

And, as long as you are asking me questions, I would like to know if the gay community gives cognizance to the fact that one faction of the gay community will always choose to stay in the proverbial closet, so the gay marriage issue is a non-sequitor to a percentage of the gay population. Agreed?
dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 03:39 pm
@Foofie,
yes, of course you're right, seems like I rember reading that some black slaves faught against the sivil war because they liked living in slavery, they always knew where their next meal was coming from.
dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 03:40 pm
@Foofie,
yes, of course you're right, seems like I rember reading that some black slaves faught against the civil war because they liked living in slavery, they always knew where their next meal was coming from.
Rockhead
 
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Reply Sun 6 Dec, 2009 03:41 pm
@dyslexia,
well said.

well said.
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