Gay Marriage Vote Passes in DC City Council

Marriage still exists

Blimey!!!

If people support the same thing for different reasons, then why in the **** am I supposed to take you seriously when you group all of women together as to why they would support this?

Ionus : You know why so many women support homosexuals ?

You simply do not understand this topic.

Those statistics were contrary to your claim of +50%.

Again, you seem to just be making this up as you go.
You're the one making **** up.

Ooooh!

I want the law to apply equally for all citizens!

you show me a measurable way that we could see how all married couples are affected negatively by this.

Precious Ionus,

Gay marriage right out of our own capital city. Is this the peoples wish?

I would want rights for gays , not marriage.

This is a union between man and woman.

Don't think this US of A is going to go into the future like we were in the past. All past leading nations who "ruled" the world are gone and the US of A will go there too. Our time is limited.....sorry.

We have all seen the chaos out of DC and the absence of leadership in congress.

Why did they not face the issue and give gays the rights they deserve.....too much trouble, they can't handle the job, it was easier to just include them in a sacred union set aside for men and women.

Marriage, and homosexuals marrying are much older than the religions that are claiming it is exclusively a union between a man and a woman.

There are not enough children for the heterosexual parents who want them and you want to give them to homosexual parents ?

For the first time, the number of children waiting to be adopted dropped below 130,000 to 123,000 in FY 2008.

What will that teach them about relationships ? Daddy loves Daddy ? Mummy loves Mummy ? Perhaps you are saying children dont learn from their parents ?

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Marriage, and homosexuals marrying are much older than the religions that are claiming it is exclusively a union between a man and a woman.

Is this your opinion ? The jewish religion goes back to Abraham about 2,000 BC.

Sorry if this is talking about bagels instead of donuts Diest - but no - I can't let this go by...

Are you physically incapable of conversation? I mean seriously. In a thread talking about same sex marriage, you really can't just talk about the actually topic? Are you so incapable of proper etiquette?

It seems that in a thread about donuts, you'll try as hard as you can to talk about bagels.

High Court reverses ban on Catholic Care’s anti-gay adoption policy
(David Ellis)
Other Catholic agencies have cut their ties with the Church or given up adoption

A Roman Catholic child-adoption society has won a landmark High Court battle that could allow it and other Catholic agencies to discriminate legally against gay couples.

Catholic Care, which serves the dioceses of Leeds, Middlesbrough, and Hallam, South Yorkshire, launched the legal action in an attempt to continue its work finding homes for children.

Catholic Care, which provided adoption services only to married couples in keeping with current Catholic doctrine, was seeking an exemption from the Sexual Orientation Regulations. The 2007 regulations made it unlawful to discriminate on the ground of sexual orientation in the provision of goods or services to the public.

The Government previously rejected appeals for an exemption for Catholic agencies but ministers gave them a 20-month transition period, which ended last year. Other Catholic agencies have already given up adoption or cut their ties with the Church.

Catholic Care argued at the High Court that it had achieved particular success in finding adoptive parents for “hard to place” children. The support after adoption, funded by giving from within the Church, also meant that its adoptions had a lower failure rate.

Mr Justice Briggs, sitting in London, allowed the charity’s appeal and ordered the Charity Commission, which made the original decision against Catholic Care, to reconsider. The Charity Commission was ordered by the judge to pay the legal costs of Catholic Care, which is linked to the Roman Catholic diocese of Leeds, unofficially estimated at more than £100,000.

Arthur Roche, the Roman Catholic Bishop of Leeds, welcomed the ruling. He said: “We look forward to producing evidence to the Charity Commission to support the position that we have consistently taken through this process that without being able to use this exemption children without families would be seriously disadvantaged.

“Catholic Care has been providing specialist adoption services for over 100 years. We have helped hundreds of children . . . as well as offering ongoing and post-adoption support to families.”

Jonathan Finney, head of external affairs at Stonewall, the gay rights charity, said: “It is clearly in the best interests of children in care to encourage as wide a pool of potential adopters as possible. All religious adoption agencies receive funding or subsidy in some form from the public purse. There should be no question of discriminatory behaviour by any organisation that benefits from the taxpayer.”

Terry Sanderson, president of the National Secular Society, said: “It is unfortunate that the court has enabled Catholic Care to exploit what was obviously an error in the drafting of the equality legislation. The loophole this created was never intended to be used this way.”

The Lesbian and Gay Christian Movement also condemned the decision. The Rev Sharon Ferguson said: “We do not doubt that Catholic Care has done good work in the past but it should only continue to do so within the current legal framework. It makes no sense and is entirely unjust to allow exemptions of this nature. Would Mr Justice Briggs have reached the same decision if Catholic Care had asked to be allowed to discriminate against couples on the grounds of their race or physical ability?”

The 1995 National Survey of Family Growth found that 500,000 women were currently seeking to adopt a child. (Freundlich, 1998)

Most adoptive parents are two parent families aged 31 to 40. A growing number of parents are aged 41 to 49. Most parents attended or completed college. The number of parents with college degrees increased sharply from 1983 to 1993.
Fewer that 20% of families adopting independently earned less that $30,000, compared with 80% in 1982. Nearly two-thirds of adoptive families earned $50,000 or more. These incomes were not adjusted for inflation, although inflation alone would not explain the shift.
Families adopting from the public child welfare system are similar to those adopting independently, in that the majority of each are 31 to 40 years old. A significant number of public agency adopters, however, are less than 30 years old. Public agency adopters have generally lower levels of education and income than independent adopters. Since 1989, public agencies are less likely to place children in families earning $50,000 or more, and more likely to place children in families earning $30,000 or less.

There are most definitely NOT more heterosexual parents waiting for children to adopt than there are children available and waiting to be adopted.

aidan : By the mid-1950's, the demand for healthy infants grew so significantly that it exceeded the number of children available for adoption, a trend that has accelerated with each passing decade. (Freundlich, 1998)

Do you think you can teach a child to be homosexual Ionus?

Simply put, being gay doesn't make your kid gay.

those who take time to learn the facts know otherwise.

n an discussion about how the model of the solar system has changed many times, you'll learn about how it went from the earth being flat, to the earth being round but the center of the universe, to the earth traveling around the sun, to elliptical orbits, etc. You might find a few people arguing on the best numerical method to find implicit solutions for the earths' ephemeris, but if spendi is there, he'd be raising his whiskey tinted voice above all others to sternly declare that everyone but him is a fool for not seeing that the center of the solar system is the moon.

You have nothing to contribute, and you're getting boring again Enjoy your mediocrity and your barstool.

The 1995 National Survey of Family Growth found that 500,000 women were currently seeking to adopt a child. (Freundlich, 1998)

Are you certain ? Why would couples adopt children in third world countries then ?

The United States Department of Health and Human Services estimates that as many as 127,000 children in foster care needed adoptive families. The ethnic backgrounds of these children are as follows:
42% were African American
32% were White
15% were Hispanic
1% were Native American/Alaskan Native
1% were Asian/Pacific Islander
8% were of unknown/unable to determine ethnic backgrounds

By the mid-1950's, the demand for healthy infants grew so significantly that it exceeded the number of children available for adoption, a trend that has accelerated with each passing decade. (Freundlich, 1998)

Do you think you can teach a child about heterosexual relationships when Daddy loves Daddy ?

In my view all those who use gay instead of homosexual are helping the cause of wrecking our literature which is steeped in gaiety and insidiously doing the work for them.