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Sarah Palin, too weird.

 
 
Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 12:39 pm
Sarah Palin's Notes
http://www.facebook.com/note.php?note_id=99149353434

Palin Announces No Second Term
Friday, July 3, 2009 at 2:55pm

12:00pm AKST - Update from Governor Palin: We'll soon attach info on decision to not seek re-election... this is in Alaska's best interest, my family's happy... it is good, stay tuned.

Hi Alaska, I appreciate speaking directly TO you, the people I serve, as your Governor.

People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more important to me than our beloved Alaska. Serving her people is the greatest honor I could imagine.

I want Alaskans to grasp what can be in store for our state. We were purchased as a territory because a member of President Abe Lincoln's cabinet, William Seward, providentially saw in this great land, vast riches, beauty, strategic placement on the globe, and opportunity. He boldly looked "North to the Future". But he endured such ridicule and mocking for his vision for Alaska, remember the adversaries scoffed, calling this "Seward's Folly". Seward withstood such disdain as he chose the uncomfortable, unconventional, but RIGHT path to secure Alaska, so Alaska could help secure the United States.

People who know me know that besides faith and family, nothing's more important to me than our beloved Alaska.

Alaska's mission - to contribute to America. We're strategic IN the world as the air crossroads OF the world, as a gatekeeper of the continent. Bold visionaries knew this - Alaska would be part of America's great destiny.

Our destiny to be reached by responsibly developing our natural resources. This land, blessed with clean air, water, wildlife, minerals, AND oil and gas. It's energy! God gave us energy.

So to serve the state is a humbling responsibility, because I know in my soul that Alaska is of such import, for America's security, in our very volatile world. And you know me by now, I promised even four years ago to show MY independence... no more conventional "politics as usual".

And we are doing well! My administration's accomplishments speak for themselves. We work tirelessly for Alaskans.

We aggressively and responsibly develop our resources because they were created to be used to better our world... to HELP people... and we protect the environment and Alaskans (the resource owners) foremost with our policies.

Here's some of the things we've done:

We created a petroleum integrity office to oversee safe development. We held the line FOR Alaskans on Point Thomson - and finally for the first time in decades - they're drilling for oil and gas.

We have AGIA, the gasline project - a massive bi-partisan victory (the vote was 58 to 1!) - also succeeding as intended - protecting Alaskans as our clean natural gas will flow to energize us, and America, through a competitive, pro-private sector project. This is the largest private sector energy project, ever. THIS is energy independence.

And ACES - another bipartisan effort - is working as intended and industry is publicly acknowledging its success. Our new oil and gas "clear and equitable formula" is so Alaskans will no longer be taken advantage of. ACES incentivizes NEW exploration and development and JOBS that were previously not going to happen with a monopolized North Slope oil basin.

We cleaned up previously accepted unethical actions; we ushered in bi-partisan Ethics Reform.

We also slowed the rate of government growth, we worked with the Legislature to save billions of dollars for the future, and I made no lobbyist friends with my hundreds of millions of dollars in budget vetoes... but living beyond our means today is irresponsible for tomorrow.

We took government out of the dairy business and put it back into private-sector hands - where it should be.

We provided unprecedented support for education initiatives, and with the right leadership, finally filled long-vacant public safety positions. We built a sub-Cabinet on Climate Change and took heat from Outside special interests for our biologically-sound wildlife management for abundance.

We broke ground on the new prison.

And we made common sense conservative choices to eliminate personal luxuries like the jet, the chef, the junkets... the entourage.

And the Lt. Governor and I said "no" to our pay raises. So much success in this first term - and with this success I am proud to take credit... for hiring the right people! Our goal was to achieve a gasline project, more fair oil and gas valuation, and ethics reform in four years. We did it in two. It's because of the people... good public servants surrounding the Governor's office, with servants' hearts and astounding work ethic... THEY are Alaska's success!

We are doing well! I wish you'd hear MORE from the media of your state's progress and how we tackle Outside interests - daily - SPECIAL interests that would stymie our state. Even those debt-ridden stimulus dollars that would force the heavy hand of federal government into our communities with an "all-knowing attitude" - I have taken the slings and arrows with that unpopular move to veto because I know being right is better than being popular. Some of those dollars would harm Alaska and harm America - I resisted those dollars because of the obscene national debt we're forcing our children to pay, because of today's Big Government spending; it's immoral and doesn't even make economic sense!

Another accomplishment - our Law Department protected states' rights - TWO huge U.S. Supreme Court reversals came down against that liberal Ninth Circuit, deciding in OUR state's favor over the last two weeks. We're protectors of our Constitution - federalists protect states' rights as mandated in 10th amendment.

But you don't hear much of the good stuff in the press anymore, do you?

Some say things changed for me on August 29th last year - the day John McCain tapped me to be his running-mate - I say others changed.

Let me speak to that for a minute.

Political operatives descended on Alaska last August, digging for dirt. The ethics law I championed became their weapon of choice. Over the past nine months I've been accused of all sorts of frivolous ethics violations - such as holding a fish in a photograph, wearing a jacket with a logo on it, and answering reporters' questions.

Every one - all 15 of the ethics complaints have been dismissed. We've won! But it hasn't been cheap - the State has wasted THOUSANDS of hours of YOUR time and shelled out some two million of YOUR dollars to respond to "opposition research" - that's money NOT going to fund teachers or troopers - or safer roads. And this political absurdity, the "politics of personal destruction" ... Todd and I are looking at more than half a million dollars in legal bills in order to set the record straight. And what about the people who offer up these silly accusations? It doesn't cost them a dime so they're not going to stop draining public resources - spending other peoples' money in their game.

It's pretty insane - my staff and I spend most of our day dealing with THIS instead of progressing our state now. I know I promised no more "politics as usual," but THIS isn't what anyone had in mind for ALASKA.

If I have learned one thing: LIFE is about choices!

And one chooses how to react to circumstances. You can choose to engage in things that tear down, or build up. I choose to work very hard on a path for fruitfulness and productivity. I choose NOT to tear down and waste precious time; but to build UP this state and our country, and her industrious, generous, patriotic, free people!

Life is too short to compromise time and resources... it may be tempting and more comfortable to just keep your head down, plod along, and appease those who demand: "Sit down and shut up", but that's the worthless, easy path; that's a quitter's way out. And a problem in our country today is apathy. It would be apathetic to just hunker down and "go with the flow".

Nah, only dead fish "go with the flow".

No. Productive, fulfilled people determine where to put their efforts, choosing to wisely utilize precious time... to BUILD UP.

And there is such a need to BUILD up and FIGHT for our state and our country. I choose to FIGHT for it! And I'll work hard for others who still believe in free enterprise and smaller government; strong national security for our country and support for our troops; energy independence; and for those who will protect freedom and equality and LIFE... I'll work for and campaign for those PROUD to be American, and those who are INSPIRED by our ideals and won't deride them.

I WILL support others who seek to serve, in or out of office, for the RIGHT reasons, and I don't care what party they're in or no party at all. Inside Alaska - or Outside Alaska.

But I won't do it from the Governor's desk.

I've never believed that I, nor anyone else, needs a title to do this - to make a difference... to HELP people. So I choose, for my State and my family, more "freedom" to progress, all the way around... so that Alaska may progress... I will not seek re-election as Governor.

And so as I thought about this announcement that I wouldn't run for re-election and what it means for Alaska, I thought about how much fun some governors have as lame ducks... travel around the state, to the Lower 48 (maybe), overseas on international trade - as so many politicians do. And then I thought - that's what's wrong - many just accept that lame duck status, hit the road, draw the paycheck, and "milk it". I'm not putting Alaska through that - I promised efficiencies and effectiveness! ? That's not how I am wired. I am not wired to operate under the same old "politics as usual." I promised that four years ago - and I meant it.

It's not what is best for Alaska.

I am determined to take the right path for Alaska even though it is unconventional and not so comfortable.

With this announcement that I am not seeking re-election... I've determined it's best to transfer the authority of governor to Lieutenant Governor Parnell; and I am willing to do so, so that this administration - with its positive agenda, its accomplishments, and its successful road to an incredible future - can continue without interruption and with great administrative and legislative success.

My choice is to take a stand and effect change - not hit our heads against the wall and watch valuable state time and money, millions of your dollars, go down the drain in this new environment. Rather, we know we can effect positive change outside government at this moment in time, on another scale, and actually make a difference for our priorities - and so we will, for Alaskans and for Americans.

Let me go back to a comfortable analogy for me - sports... basketball. I use it because you're naïve if you don't see the national full-court press picking away right now: A good point guard drives through a full court press, protecting the ball, keeping her eye on the basket... and she knows exactly when to pass the ball so that the team can WIN. And I'm doing that - keeping our eye on the ball that represents sound priorities - smaller government, energy independence, national security, freedom! And I know when it's time to pass the ball - for victory.

I have given my reasons candidly and truthfully... and my last day won't be for another few weeks so the transition will be very smooth. In fact, we will look to swear Sean in - in Fairbanks at the conclusion of our Governor's picnics.

I do not want to disappoint anyone with my decision; all I can ask is that you TRUST me with this decision - but it's no more "politics as usual".

Some Alaskans don't mind wasting public dollars and state time. I do. I cannot stand here as your Governor and allow millions upon millions of our dollars go to waste just so I can hold the title of Governor. And my children won't allow it either. ? Some will question the timing. ? Let's just say, this decision has been in the works for awhile...

In fact, this decision comes after much consideration, and finally polling the most important people in my life - my children (where the count was unanimous... well, in response to asking: "Want me to make a positive difference and fight for ALL our children's future from OUTSIDE the Governor's office?" It was four "yes's" and one "hell yeah!" The "hell yeah" sealed it - and someday I'll talk about the details of that... I think much of it had to do with the kids seeing their baby brother Trig mocked by some pretty mean-spirited adults recently.) Um, by the way, sure wish folks could ever, ever understand that we ALL could learn so much from someone like Trig - I know he needs me, but I need him even more... what a child can offer to set priorities RIGHT - that time is precious... the world needs more "Trigs", not fewer.

My decision was also fortified during this most recent trip to Kosovo and Landstuhl, to visit our wounded soldiers overseas, those who sacrifice themselves in war for OUR freedom and security... we can ALL learn from our selfless Troops... they're bold, they don't give up, they take a stand and know that LIFE is short so they choose to NOT waste time. They choose to be productive and to serve something greater than SELF... and to build up their families, their states, our country. These Troops and their important missions - those are truly the worthy causes in this world and should be the public priority with time and resources and NOT this local / superficial wasteful political bloodsport.

May we ALL learn from them!

*((Gotta put First Things First))*

First things first: as Governor, I love my job and I love Alaska. It hurts to make this choice but I am doing what's best for Alaska. I've explained why... though I think of the saying on my parents' refrigerator that says "Don't explain: your friends don't need it and your enemies won't believe you anyway."

But I have given my reasons... no more "politics as usual" and I am taking my fight for what's right - for Alaska - in a new direction.

Now, despite this, I don't want any Alaskan dissuaded from entering politics after seeing this REAL "climate change" that began in August... no, we NEED hardworking, average Americans fighting for what's right! And I will support you because we need YOU and YOU can effect change, and I can too on the outside.

We need those who will respect our Constitution where government's supposed to serve from the BOTTOM UP, not move toward this TOP DOWN big government take-over... but rather, will be protectors of individual rights - who also have enough common sense to acknowledge when conditions have drastically changed and are willing to call an audible and pass the ball when it's time so the team can win! And that is what I'm doing!

Remember Alaska... America is now, more than ever, looking North to the Future. It'll be good. So God bless you, and from me and my family - to ALL Alaska - you have my heart.

And we will be in the capable hands of our Lieutenant Governor, Sean Parnell. And Lieutenant General Craig Campbell will assume the role of Lieutenant Governor. And it is my promise to you that I will always be standing by, ready to assist. We have a good, positive agenda for Alaska.

In the words of General MacArthur said, "We are not retreating. We are advancing in another direction."

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wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 12:52 pm
@Debra Law,
Thanks for posting that, Debra. It does not sound like Sarah Palin is leaving politics forever:
Quote:
We are doing well! I wish you'd hear MORE from the media of your state's progress and how we tackle Outside interests - daily - SPECIAL interests that would stymie our state. Even those debt-ridden stimulus dollars that would force the heavy hand of federal government into our communities with an "all-knowing attitude" - I have taken the slings and arrows with that unpopular move to veto because I know being right is better than being popular. Some of those dollars would harm Alaska and harm America - I resisted those dollars because of the obscene national debt we're forcing our children to pay, because of today's Big Government spending; it's immoral and doesn't even make economic sense!
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 01:02 pm
The upshot is that Palin is as impulsive as McCain. He took all of about 15 minutes to select her.

In connection with her resignation, I have not seen a positive statement about her in the media. The funny thing is that she loves the media, and treasures her days on television. I can envision her as a radio talk-show host, and serious competition for Rush.
wandeljw
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 01:18 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:
I can envision her as a radio talk-show host, and serious competition for Rush.


I would love to see Rush host a "McLaughlin Group" composed of Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Chuck Norris.
blatham
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 02:25 pm
There are many endearing qualities to the modern conservative movement and the Republican Party but one of my personal favorites involves their respect for the status and dignity of the female. Movement leader and model, Rush Limbaugh, for example:

Quote:
She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life.


It is in this context where I can empathize with conservative observations that Sarah Palin is a victim of malicious leftist denigration of women because they are women. I don't know who would stick up for the plight of females if not for modern conservatives.

Which is why I point out the following email Bill Kristol received and posted at the Weekly Standard as an example of the advices for Sarah he wanted to pass on to other movement conservatives:

Quote:
...She needs to own two substantive areas: for example, energy and federalism. And she should contrast flat out with Obama. She is Big Daddy; he is soft mama.


You see, in much the same manner as Sarah has shown her personal tenacity and deep disdain for quitters by her selfless act of quitting, the modern conservatives such as Kristol demonstrate their celebration of womanhood by casting women as weak and as losers.

This is a movement marked by honor and integrity above all. Who could find proper reason to not support such a movement and such individuals?
rosborne979
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 02:58 pm
@wandeljw,
wandeljw wrote:
I would love to see Rush host a "McLaughlin Group" composed of Sarah Palin, Glenn Beck, and Chuck Norris.

Now that would be funny. I would love to see it Smile
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 03:42 pm
If you need further evidence of the liberal double standard:

The Biden Curve
Palin was "stupid" for saying what he says now.
By JAMES TARANTO

Over the weekend, as we noted yesterday, Vice President Biden said that if Israel decides it needs to take military action against the Iranian nuclear-weapons program, the U.S. will not "dictate" otherwise. A reader points out that Sarah Palin, who ran against Biden in last year's election, said much the same thing in a September interview with ABC's Charlie Gibson:

Quote:
Gibson: What if Israel decided it felt threatened and needed to take out the Iranian nuclear facilities?
Palin: Well, first, we are friends with Israel and I don't think that we should second-guess the measures that Israel has to take to defend themselves and for their security.
Gibson: So if we wouldn't second-guess it and they decided they needed to do it because Iran was an existential threat, we would cooperative or agree with that.
Palin: I don't think we can second-guess what Israel has to do to secure its nation.
Gibson: So if it felt necessary, if it felt the need to defend itself by taking out Iranian nuclear facilities, that would be all right.
Palin: We cannot second-guess the steps that Israel has to take to defend itself.


Palin reiterated the point in a later interview with CBS's Katie Couric.

This column agrees with both Biden and Palin and is glad to see that the bipartisan consensus recognizing Israel's right to defend itself appears sturdy. But we suspected not everyone would be so consistent, so we went back to see what people had said about Palin.

Matthew Yglesias, who when he was young drew much praise for his thoughtful and fair-minded commentary, wrote a blog post titled "Palin: If Israel Wants to Bomb Bomb Bomb, Bomb Bomb Iran, That's Okay With Me":

Quote:
Palin reiterated her absurd view that the President of the United States shouldn't "second-guess" Israeli policy under any circumstances.
Palin is okay at repeating various "pro-Israel" buzzwords, but she can't run away from the fact that her underlying position on this topic is stupid.


So when Biden said the same thing, did Yglesias call it "absurd" and "stupid"? Well, is the pope Italian? Here's what he wrote yesterday:

Quote:
This is being read by some . . . as a "green light" for an Israeli attack. . . . I think the most straightforward reading of what Biden said is rather different, he's trying to distance the United States from any possible Israeli military action by making it clear that what Israel does or doesn't do is decided in Israel rather than in Washington.

The main problem with this, I think, is that probably nobody's going to believe it. Already you see many Americans taking Biden's statement that the U.S. doesn't control Israeli policy to "really" mean that the U.S. is encouraging Israel to attack.


When Palin says it, it's stupid. When Biden says it, he gets graded on a curve: The problem is that other people are too stupid to understand the deep subtlety of Biden's thinking.

Then there's M.J. Rosenberg of TalkingPointsMemo.com. In September, he described Palin as "robotic" and suggested that she is the puppet of a Jewish cabal:

Quote:
Now we know why among the very first people Sarah Palin sat down with after being nominated was Joe Lieberman and the head of AIPAC.
She needed the latest talking points and, boy, did she learn her lines. . . .
In other words, under the Palin administration, we won't second guess Israel. I think I've got it.
Palin sure has.


And when Biden said it? Rosenberg kept mum until he was persuaded that the vice president's words didn't really reflect U.S. policy. Then he wrote this:

Quote:
The President said today that he has "absolutely not" given Israel a "green light" to attack Iran.


So Biden either misspoke, was misinterpreted, or has just been corrected by his boss. Israel will get no green light to attack. We will, as Obama said all along, rely on diplomacy to solve the Iran problem.

Fair enough, right? Wrong.

Look what Palin said to Charlie Gibson just before he asked about a hypothetical Israeli strike:

Quote:
Gibson: So what do you do about a nuclear Iran?
Palin: We have got to make sure that these weapons of mass destruction, that nuclear weapons are not given to those hands of Ahmadinejad, not that he would use them, but that he would allow terrorists to be able to use them. So we have got to put the pressure on Iran and we have got to count on our allies to help us, diplomatic pressure.
Gibson: But, Governor, we've threatened greater sanctions against Iran for a long time. It hasn't done any good. It hasn't stemmed their nuclear program.
Palin: We need to pursue those and we need to implement those. We cannot back off. We cannot just concede that, oh, gee, maybe they're going to have nuclear weapons, what can we do about it. No way, not Americans. We do not have to stand for that.


What Palin said last year was precisely what Obama and Biden have now said: Diplomacy is the optimal way of dealing with the Iranian nuclear threat, but if it fails, Israel has a right to defend itself. In a way, the inconsistency of some of Palin's critics is reassuring. It shows that a good deal of anti-Israel sentiment is mere partisanship masquerading as something uglier.

http://online.wsj.com/article/best_of_the_web_today.html
Debra Law
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 03:55 pm
@blatham,
blatham wrote:

There are many endearing qualities to the modern conservative movement and the Republican Party but one of my personal favorites involves their respect for the status and dignity of the female. . . . Movement leader and model, Rush Limbaugh, for example:

Quote:
She comes to me when she wants to be fed. And after I feed her -- guess what -- she's off to wherever she wants to be in the house, until the next time she gets hungry. She's smart enough to know she can't feed herself. She's actually a very smart cat. She gets loved. She gets adoration. She gets petted. She gets fed. And she doesn't have to do anything for it, which is why I say this cat's taught me more about women, than anything my whole life.


It is in this context where I can empathize with conservative observations that Sarah Palin is a victim of malicious leftist denigration of women because they are women. I don't know who would stick up for the plight of females if not for modern conservatives.

Which is why I point out the following email Bill Kristol received and posted at the Weekly Standard as an example of the advices for Sarah he wanted to pass on to other movement conservatives:

Quote:
...She needs to own two substantive areas: for example, energy and federalism. And she should contrast flat out with Obama. She is Big Daddy; he is soft mama.


You see, in much the same manner as Sarah has shown her personal tenacity and deep disdain for quitters by her selfless act of quitting, the modern conservatives such as Kristol demonstrate their celebration of womanhood by casting women as weak and as losers.

This is a movement marked by honor and integrity above all. Who could find proper reason to not support such a movement and such individuals?


I agree. Sarah should answer her higher calling by co-hosting a segment on Rush Limbaugh's talk show and becoming the American ideal for womanhood. Because of her feline characteristics (as Rush described), perhaps this new segment can be titled: "Palin' around with Sarah 'Pussy Cat' Palin, the woman who showed America that she didn't need to do anything (like governing a state as she was elected to do) in order to get loved, adored, petted, and fed."
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 04:04 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Am I the only one totally unsurprised that David LUSTS for MEAT?

NO; I was also unsurprized.





David
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JTT
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 04:07 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You've caught us all, Finn. Best if Obama's ousted along with Biden. Let's bring in Palin and McCain. That'll assure that there are no more double standards, that everything will go swimmingly, that apple pie will once again be looked on with great favor and Father Knows Best will once again rule the airwaves.

And we owe it all to you!
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Finn dAbuzz
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 05:16 pm
Say what you will about Sarah Palin, but only she could bring both Nimh and blatham back to A2K.

Personally I think she stepped down for the reasons she gave but also so she could make some good money and position herself for future political office.

Nothing wrong with any of these reasons, and I am thoroughly amused by the Palin Haters who insist on calling her a quitter.

If you want to see how truly disgusting and utterly moronic political discussion can be, you just have to take a look at some of the postings on this thread.

It's bad enough some of you attempt to justify the sickening insults directed at Palin and her family by the insipid argument that politics is a tough game, but you're also, with perhaps no exception, a bunch of hypocrites. When your ox is gored you scream bloody murder. Liken Obama to Curious George and its not just hardball down in the gutter politics, it's reprehensible racism. So for that matter (with a huge dollop of xenophobia mixed in) is suggesting he's a Muslim.

For the record, I find both tactics stupid and offensive, but I'm not sure why everything in Palin's life (including her children) is fair game to the people who bleat the loudest when someone who doesn't like Obama delivers a below the belt blow.

It's pretty clear that once Palin rose from obscurity and became a formidable conservative figure, the liberal Death Squads embarked on their search and destroy mission.

We are in a dangerous place if the Media can elevate the people they like to sainthood and destroy those who they do not.

For those of you who dismiss the liberal bias of the media, tell me what Democrat has been demonized in the way the media has demonized, Dan Quayle, Newt Gingrich, and Sarah Palin.

I don't want Palin to run in 2012. She can capture the GOP nomination, but unless Obama fails so badly that even the media can't cover for him, she can't win in the 2012 general election.

2016? Who knows. She's young enough to be viable for 2020 and 2024.

She'll need to demonstrate a whole lot more gravitas then she and Barack Obama had in 2008, to get my vote, but you never know.
edgarblythe
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 05:22 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
You could find a more credible political figure than this one to be an apologist for, but, to each his own.
Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 06:00 pm
@Yankee,
Yankee wrote:

So the looney Liberals are still all lathered up over the hot, soon to be former, Gov of Alaska.

You must be expert in pictures of Sarah Palin to come up with the photoshop image, eh? Do you have a collection of her pics?


I am quickly becoming convinced that you refuse to use whatever brain you may have. Currently, it appears to be very small.

YOU put the picture on the thread. YOU did not state the truth that it was photoshopped.

Yankee wrote:

Quote:
Nope, go it off the internet.


Your pathetic posts are hardly worthy of the time it takes to read them. Much less reply to them.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 06:02 pm
@Advocate,
Advocate wrote:

Dys, why don't you crawl back into your little rat hole. You have never contributed anything worthwhile, but seem limited to taking your little cheap shots at others.


Oh, look. Advocate is taking little cheap shots at others.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 06:03 pm
@DrewDad,
DrewDad wrote:

Am I the only one totally unsurprised that David LUSTS for MEAT?


Nope. I wonder if his lust for meat surpasses his lust for guns. Personally, I save my lust for women.


(no cheap shots intended or implied)
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nimh
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 06:25 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Say what you will about Sarah Palin, but only she could bring both Nimh and blatham back to A2K.

I left?

Finn dAbuzz wrote:
If you want to see how truly disgusting and utterly moronic political discussion can be, you just have to take a look at some of the postings on this thread.

True, H2O's and Yankee's posts are pretty pathetic.

Oh, you mean you only mind when it's liberals? 'K...
panzade
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 07:20 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
FINN WROTE
Quote:
It's pretty clear that once Palin rose from obscurity and became a formidable conservative figure,


For God's sakes Finn, take off the blinders. Sarah Palin is not a formidable conservative figure and it seems a lot of conservative posters on this forum haven't figured that out. She's one of the reasons your party lost the election.

http://img193.imageshack.us/img193/3562/crowe.jpg
Intrepid
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 08:08 pm
@panzade,
panzade wrote:

FINN WROTE
Quote:
It's pretty clear that once Palin rose from obscurity and became a formidable conservative figure,


For God's sakes Finn, take off the blinders. Sarah Palin is not a formidable conservative figure and it seems a lot of conservative posters on this forum haven't figured that out. She's one of the reasons your party lost the election.



Exactly!
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engineer
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 09:11 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:

For those of you who dismiss the liberal bias of the media, tell me what Democrat has been demonized in the way the media has demonized, Dan Quayle, Newt Gingrich, and Sarah Palin.

While I didn't like his politics, Newt was truly a conservative genius. He came out with bold ideas and worked a plan to establish a Republican majority for years. You put him in the same sentence with Qualye and Palin? That you would do that shows why a lot of people (me included) have such an adverse reaction to Palin. I picked her for McCain's vp back in July, knowing little about her other than she was a governor and had strong conservative cred. Then I got to hear her speak on her positions. I don't see any thought there, no political sense, no curiosity, no background in economics or foreign policy, nothing beyond bumper stickers. She represents the worst of what has become of the Republican party, a willingness to play to the worst in our country instead of striving for the best. Yet Palin for all her apparent shallowness is now in the same league with Gingrich? That any conservative anywhere would write that sentence fills me with despair for the remnants of the Republican party I admired in my youth.
Robert Gentel
 
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Reply Tue 7 Jul, 2009 09:21 pm
@Finn dAbuzz,
Finn dAbuzz wrote:
Over the weekend, as we noted yesterday, Vice President Biden said that if Israel decides it needs to take military action against the Iranian nuclear-weapons program, the U.S. will not "dictate" otherwise.


Well speaking only for myself, this is the first Bidenism that I thought was serious enough that I've finally had it with him, and the context he did it in makes it much worse than anything Palin has ever done. What he said was downright stupid and I wish someone would muzzle that guy before his big, stupid mouth digs us any deeper.

I'm glad Obama came out with an "absolutely not" but a lot of the damage is done, and that was one of the stupidest things I've seen said from someone of that office in quite a while.

And while I'm sure many liberals gave him a pass on it many of the ones I read didn't. They immediately called on Obama to repudiate it and spoke of it in terms of it having the potential to be the first huge foreign policy blunder of the administration.

Here is a good take on it from one of my favorite political journalists, Tony Karon.
 

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