Guns: how much longer will it take ....

The uninfringible right to bear arms in regard to a well regulated militia.

The Second Amendment is naturally divided into two parts: its prefatory clause and its operative clause. The former does not limit the latter grammatically, but rather announces a purpose. The Amendment could be rephrased, “Because a well regulated Militia is necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms shall not be infringed.

The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity."

There seems to us no doubt, on the basis of both text and history, that the Second Amendment conferred an individual right to keep and bear arms. Of course the right was not unlimited, just as the First Amendment’s right of free speech was not, see, e.g., United States v. Williams, 553 U. S. ___ (2008). Thus, we do not read the Second Amendment to protect the right of citizens to carry arms for any sort of confrontation, just as we do not read the First Amendment to protect the right of citizens to speak for any purpose.

We also recognize another important limitation on theright to keep and carry arms. Miller said, as we have explained, that the sorts of weapons protected were those “in common use at the time.” 307 U. S., at 179. We think that limitation is fairly supported by the historical tradition of prohibiting the carrying of “dangerous and unusual weapons.”

It's the right of the people in regard to the militia.

With that said, even Scalia's interpretation (which contains contradictory assertions in his paragraphs) of the Second Amendment that it implies the bearing of arms by individuals for purposes other than the militia, namely self-defense, limits the types of weapons the Second Amendment refers to,

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The term was applied, then as now, to weapons that were not specifically designed for military use and were not employed in a military capacity."

Who cares what the Framers intended?

That was 200 years ago. Times change.

They also weren't perfect; they were fallible.

They undoubtedly could not/did not see what the precious USofA would become. What would they suggest if they were here today?

Grow up.

Do you believe every word in the Bible?

If the Framers were alive today they'd tell us to put all the progressives in concentration camps before they destroy the nation.

I found it amusing that your solution to your perceived attack on freedom / civil liberties was to utterly deny others their freedom for expressing a political idea.

Times change, and the idea of what constitutes freedom also changes. You have an opinion on what constitutes freedom, and others have a different idea.

No perfect idea has ever existed, as 'freedom' already involves the denial of freedom so that others aren't impacted by your 'freedom'....as complete freedom is otherwise known being as anarchy / survival of the fittest / do what you want.

No matter what precedents you quote, freedom is a concept that means different things to different people, regardless of what a piece of paper says.

This of course, is aimed at your idea that others are evil for their ideas on freedom and therefore should be put in concentration camps.

MILWAUKEE — The Milwaukee Police Department said it will replace every Milwaukee police officer’s service weapon, starting early 2023.

Police Chief Jeffrey Norman said the current weapon, the Sig Sauer P320, has a history of unintentionally discharging while in use with MPD. Three Milwaukee police officers have been injured since 2020.

Most recently, on Sept. 10, Milwaukee police said a 41-year-old police officer was injured when another officer’s gun went off while it was holstered. He was taken to the hospital and treated for his injuries. In July 2020, Officer Adam Maritato was unintentionally shot in the leg by another officer’s holstered gun.

The pistol is allegedly prone to going off without the trigger being pulled, a defect that has led to dozens of injuries around the country over the past several years. The gun-maker has previously denied its pistol is defective, according to the Associated Press.

MPD said it plans the replace the Sig Sauer P320 with weapons made by Glock. The transition is expected to cost around $450,000.

The department said it wants to use money seized during various criminal investigations. That money would have traditionally been spent elsewhere. The Milwaukee Common Council will need to approve the use of those asset forfeiture funds to pay for the new weapons.

Norman said that replacing all weapons is the best course of action.

“This is not an easy decision, nor should it be. But, I believe this is the most productive and viable option,” said Norman. “I am very pleased to have the mayor and the MPA President and the other trustees and leadership supporting us on this.”

Milwaukee Police Association President Andrew Wagner said he’s satisfied with MPD’s plans to replace the weapons.

The Police Association filed a lawsuit against the city of Milwaukee to have the P320s replaced. Once the funding is approved, Wagner said the lawsuit will be dropped.

“I am very pleased to announce that as soon as the Common Council passes the allocation for the funding of the new gun, the Milwaukee Police Association will forgo the lawsuit against the city,” said Wagner.

Sig Sauer has settled at least one federal class action lawsuit involving the P320, involving pistols made before 2017, offering refunds or replacement guns to purchasers. The pistol has been sold to both law enforcement and civilians.

You don't have to accept anything.

Change is a fact, and it changes through a process - but you don't have to accept that fact, nor the process. Your acceptance or otherwise, doesn't alter that change occurs, nor does it alter how & why change occurs in language.

You also don't have to accept subjectivity - it doesn't change what it entails, nor how meaning and 'definitions' are captured/treated by subjective words.

I can say, as before, that complete freedom is anarachy