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Guns: how much longer will it take ....

 
 
oralloy
 
  1  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 02:37 pm
@neptuneblue,
neptuneblue wrote:
It WASN'T her last resort though.

So what?


neptuneblue wrote:
She had the opportunity, time and motivation to WALK AWAY.

I doubt that. She had trouble controlling her dog since it was off its leash.


neptuneblue wrote:
SHE choose to escalate. And she got caught, and apologized for HER poor behavior. What don't you get about that?

Well, I don't get is how that would be relevant even if it was true.

There are a couple things in the sentence that I don't think are true, but my primary issue with the sentence is I don't see how it is relevant.
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vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:14 pm
@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:
That is incorrect. Protecting yourself from a dangerous thug is self defense.

Yes. She found his behavior quite menacing.

Oralloy continues to post / display some of the behaviours I mentioned were racist:

- In this thread you've only demonised black guys, but while justifying everything the white people did

combined with / to be read with:

- any evidence that falls in favour of the black person, you ignore or call irrelevant, while even loose evidence in favour of the white person you focus on

Explained below:

Oralloy focuses on the loose evidence of Mr Cooper making a vague threat then offering her dog a treat (loose evidence for both the level of menace oralloy ascribes, and Oralloy calling him a dangerous thug and an axe murderer... which ignores everything she said about what really concerned her in the lead up to her call to 911, and her first words of complaint to 911 on two occasions- Please stop recording me...Please stop recording me...Please stop recording me...right, I’m calling the cops on you. I’m going to tell them an African American man is threatening me (then twice raises his recording her prior to talking about any other complaint)
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:18 pm
@vikorr,
You rely on childish name-calling because you are unable to make any intelligent arguments against my position.
vikorr
 
  4  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:21 pm
@oralloy,
Odd- you are happy to respond to all others who say you engage in racist behaviours.

And you continue to hold to your line despite knowing Amy Coopers real concern prior to calling 911 was being recorded by him. You ignore she raised the 'threat' only when he refused to stop recording. You ignore that as soon as she called 911, her first complaint was him recording her...and as soon as she started complaining again, her first raised complaint was him recording her.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:23 pm
@vikorr,
My response to them is the same as my response to you.

I point out that your false accusations are an unethical way of compensating for your lack of an intelligent argument.
vikorr
 
  4  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:25 pm
@oralloy,
Which continues to prove my point - you ignoring that prior to calling 911 her real concern was him recording her. You continue to ignore she raised the 'threat' only when he refused to stop recording. You continue to ignore that as soon as she called 911, her first complaint was him recording her...and as soon as she started complaining again, her first raised complaint was him recording her.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:27 pm
@vikorr,
You don't have a point. You have childish name-calling.
vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:31 pm
@oralloy,
Uh huh - keep ignoring the evidence. It just reinforces what I said about you ignoring any evidence that supports a black persons 'side of things'.

And there are many threads on this forum where you've copped much, much worse from other posters, and continued to respond to them.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:39 pm
@vikorr,
I denounce name-calling from other posters as well.
vikorr
 
  3  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:40 pm
@oralloy,
Yet you have a long history of responding to them. We all know exactly why you suddenly decided to 'take a stand'.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:42 pm
@vikorr,
I respond to your childish name-calling too.

I take a stand against their childish name-calling too.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:43 pm
@oralloy,
Live your posts. Stop talking about bizarre ideologies and demented progressives.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:46 pm
@MontereyJack,
If progressives do not wish to be criticized for the horrible things that they do, they should stop doing horrible things.
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vikorr
 
  3  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:49 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
I respond to your childish name-calling too.
No - you respond to say you won't respond...

...but have a look at Izzy's last post here. He too called you racist (and worse)...and you went into great detail with him...and you have a long history of doing the same with virtually every other poster who has said similar or worse to you.

We all know why you suddenly want to 'take a stand'.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:52 pm
@vikorr,
100% of my response to izzythepush dealt with his childish name-calling.

100% of my response to you deals with your childish name-calling.
vikorr
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:53 pm
@oralloy,
Quote:
100% of my response to you deals with your childish name-calling.
Quite untrue. You would have to back many, many posts to find me calling you any name.

What I have criticised though, is your behaviours.
oralloy
 
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Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:55 pm
@vikorr,
Your thinly-veiled childish name-calling is still childish name-calling.

I'm also not sure why I should resume a civilized conversation with you after your outrageous attack against me.
MontereyJack
 
  2  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:57 pm
@oralloy,
so is your thuggish name-calling.
oralloy
 
  0  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 05:58 pm
@MontereyJack,
The only name-calling coming from my quarter is equal and proportionate retaliation for name-calling that was directed at me first.
vikorr
 
  2  
Reply Tue 9 Jun, 2020 06:00 pm
@oralloy,
Uh huh. You realised you were wrong on that as well I see.

Talking about the nature of behaviours is talking about the nature of behaviours. You can call someone a hypocrite (which is all encompassing) or talk about a hypocritical behaviour (which is talking about a hypocritical behaviour). You know the difference between criticising behaviour and criticising a person, just as you know the difference between:

- criticising ideas and criticising a person
- criticising systems designed by a person, and criticising the person
- criticising theories and criticising the person who holds them
- etc.

But as I mentioned a while back - I expect you will continue to pretend to be insulted etc.
 

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