@oralloy,
oralloy wrote:Ah, so my supposed demonization came from where you insist that I mean something other than what I expressly say that I mean.
I am not responsible for things that I've never said.
You've used 'axe murderer' in direct place of his name - multiple times. . Associating someone with a 'demon' is demonisation. You do not need to explicitly say they are a (or the) 'demon' (in this case 'axe murderer') to demonise them. You know this.
Hypothetically, if I had never called you racist, but used ‘racist’ in place of your name each time -you’d absolutely know I was calling you a racist. You wouldn’t think it was a figure of speech. You’d know it for what it was.
This shouldn’t need to be explained.
oralloy wrote:You engage in childish name-calling because you are not capable of producing an intelligent argument.
Oh I think it was very well explained when I said:
vikorr wrote:- you demonise the black guy as much as possible because you are racist (seriously - you have never defended a black guy in a conflict situation on these forums...or even expressed more than token understanding of their perspective... and you engage in severe demonisation the black participants of such discussed conflicts)
To clarify further:
- In this thread you've only demonised black guys, but while justifying everything the white people did
- you avoided any empathy with the black people, while empathising fully with the white people
- you believe only the bits of the story that are convenient to you (if the black person tells it), while believing everything the white person says
- any evidence that falls in favour of the black person, you ignore or call irrelevant, while even loose evidence in favour of the white person you focus on
- the reasonable behaviours of the black person you ignore (in the video), while the unreasonable behaviours of the white person you support (in the video)
- you come to only one conclusion - firmly in favour of the white person each and every time, even while there are other possibilities as to what occurred
- any misunderstanding falls firmly in favour of the white person
....these are all things you've expressed, and just in this thread, but there have been others on this forum in similar vein. I say on this forum – that’s all I’ve seen you do. I say that nowhere on this forum (when it comes to a conflict between black and white) have you given anything but a token form of empathy or support for a black person over a white person when there has been a conflict between the two. You've not actually tried to understand both sides on any such occasion- just one side - the white side.
This is what makes you racist – the extreme bias that you’ve engaged in towards black people in such conflicts (in all the above ways)
Quote:She repeated the entire complaint, not just the fact that the thug had dark skin.
In fact, she repeated the other details of her complaint more times than she repeated the race of the thug who was menacing her.
On the call? Sure. Although you can’t say she gave details she kept her complain very, very vague. I'll repeat, with a few corrections that - In that video:
- she left out that he had asked her to leash her dog in the conservation area. This is fact, and biased her story.
- she did not tell 911 what the 'threat' was. This is fact, and biased her story.
- She then repeatedly kept it to a vague 'threatenning'. This is fact, and biased her story.
- she left out his reasonable tone while talking to her. This is fact, and biased her story.
- she left out telling them that he was making no move towards her. This is fact, and biased her story.
- she left out that he agreed that she should call police. This is fact, and biased her story..
- She didn't even bother properly describing him (age, height, build, clothing etc). This is fact.
- The first two times, she focused on describing him as a 'african american male'. This is fact,
That is a lot of bias she engaged in. Then:
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1.
I’m going to tell them that there’s an African American man threatening my life
Obersvations:
- Prior to the call, her main concern was for him to stop recording her behaviour. She didn’t ask him to stop threatening her – she asked him to stop recording her, three times.
- It is only, and immediately after he didn’t stop recording that she threaten to call the cops and say
“I’m going to tell them that there’s an African American man threatening my life”
- Why switch her concern from being recorded to suddenly needing the police for a 'threat'?
- She’s exhibits a fair degree of calm for someone who’s life is being threatened
- Fight, flight, or Freeze, which comes in degrees according to the perceived ‘threat’…is quite low in this (because she is fairly calmly talking, and taking the time to call police). This Indicates no threat to life
- She keeps the description of what she ‘is going to tell them’ only to his race and gender, and a threat (without any details of how)
- Her head tilts back and forth to both shoulders – this is usually a sign of indecision or non-belief
2.
She calls and says to 911 “There is a man, African American”
Observations:
- She said man, then felt the need to add ‘African American’. Why did she feel the need to add ‘African American’ – if she needed police to know the description, that is in no way helpful to identifying him…but if she thinks police are racist, there’s a racist benefit to her to say it.
- The first complaint out of her mouth is ‘he is recording me’. People usually put the information most important to them first. This is reinforced by her having already asked him 3 times to stop recording, immediately before she threatened to call police. This shows what she was the most upset at.
- The 2nd words are ‘threatening me and my dog’
3.
She once again says “There is an African American man”
Observations
- Why the need to repeat African American man? 911 no doubt heard the first time.
- She once again follows this up with ‘he is recording me’. So each time she’s raised her complaints to police so far, it is the fact he is recording she places first. She has no raised it 3 times before threatening to call police, then raised it as her first complaint on talking to police, then when her complaints were raised again – raised it as her first complaint.
- ‘And threatening myself and my dog’
- Same thing. What goes first is what is most important to people. So what she is really upset at is the recording.
- She sounds more put out than threatened
4.
She says “I’m being threatened by a man”
Observations:
- Actually she wasn’t being threatened. That is very clear on the video.
- Only at this point in time, after she doesn’t get her way with 911, does she go from being fairly calm to hysterical. And not in a ‘I’m being threatened way” as she claims - for she stays exactly where she is.
Her main concern was being recording. Seen by her only raising the recording as a concern (3 times) before threatening to call police (about a black man threatening her) and then on each of the first two she complains about being recorded first.