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BABY STOMPED TO DEATH; BYSTANDERS OBEY GUN LAWS

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:00 am
I enjoy shooting. Why not? You do realize it's even part of the Olympics, don't you? Oh yeah, I forgot, the British biathalon team sucks because they have no place to practice and no guns to practice with.... doh!
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Steve 41oo
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:12 am
That doesnt worry me one bit. Handguns were prohibited in this country in (I think 1998) after a shooting enthusiast went berserk with a legally held weapon, and killed 16 children and their teacher in Scotland. Just remembered his name, thomas hamilton. You can find out what he did.

Anyway, there has been absolutely no call from people to bring back firearms.

And I've never heard anyone here using the argument that "if only the citizen had a firearm"...such and such a crime would have been prevented.

That said the next teenager I see dropping litter on the cycle track and I'd most certainly stop him from doing it again with a Walther pkk. (and just so there is no misunderstanding, as sometimes irony is not taken well in the US I was only joking Smile)
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:17 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Steve 41oo wrote:
... encouraging immature citizens of whatever age to play with firearms is not one of them.


I am not responsible for your immaturity or unfounded fear of weaponry.

Sheeple.
The originator of this thread has already admitted he likes discharging weapons...for fun. For many people they are no more than toys, you included I think. Imo there is something immature about grown men who like playing with guns. All this artificial outrage at various incidents where citizens have not been armed and have been unable to stop crime is really a smoke screen to protect your desire to continue playing with your toy guns.

Steve, will u explain Y I'd need or desire a SMOKE SCREEN ??

or Y I need to PROTECT my desire ??

Protect it from WHAT ??????
Am I in danger of being excluded from gunnery ranges,
that I need a smoke screen to sneak in ? Is that how thay do it in England ?

I also play roulette & craps; are thay more MATURE ?


How do u determine and judge maturity, Steve ??

Will u tell us that ?




David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:26 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
That doesnt worry me one bit. Handguns were prohibited in this country in (I think 1998) after a shooting enthusiast went berserk with a legally held weapon, and killed 16 children and their teacher in Scotland. Just remembered his name, thomas hamilton. You can find out what he did.

Anyway, there has been absolutely no call from people to bring back firearms.

And I've never heard anyone here using the argument that "if only the citizen had a firearm"...such and such a crime would have been prevented.

I 'd heard that farmer Tony Martin
was successful in stopping some burglars from tormenting him
with their predatory forays.
Maybe that 's just an idle rumor.
I guess u did not hear about that.

England seems to have degenerated badly
from when it was jolly old England in the 1800s.

I think Churchill wud be ashamed of it.



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That said the next teenager I see dropping litter on the cycle track and I'd most certainly stop him from doing it again with a Walther pkk. (and just so there is no misunderstanding, as sometimes irony is not taken well in the US I was only joking Smile)

Good luck with your Pkk.




David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:29 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
This baby was so young
that he was defenseless under any circumstances.

If he had been just a few years older,
old enuf to walk and talk, I 'd wish that he had
the defensive firepower to kill his tormentor and that he did it.

O, Well.

February 4, 2002, in South Bend, Ind.,
Tony D. Murray broke into a home occupied by
Sue Gay, an 80-year-old grandmother and her 11-year-old grandchild.
The intruder held a jagged box cutter to the grandmother's neck,
at which time the 11-year-old ran upstairs where he retrieved a .45 revolver.
The 11-year-old returned, pointed the gun at the intruder,
and shot and killed him.




Good shooting



David
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:32 am
12 people that live in the city of San Francisco have concealed weapons permits. One of them is Diane Feinstein.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 11:34 am
Steve 41oo wrote:
Anyway, there has been absolutely no call from people to bring back firearms.


Because those that didn't agree with the new law simply didn't turn them in.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 03:07 pm
I 'm glad I don 't live in England.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 03:12 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
I 'm glad I don 't live in England.
so is england.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 07:42 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
This baby was so young
that he was defenseless under any circumstances.

If he had been just a few years older,
old enuf to walk and talk, I 'd wish that he had
the defensive firepower to kill his tormentor and that he did it.

O, Well.

February 4, 2002, in South Bend, Ind.,
Tony D. Murray broke into a home occupied by
Sue Gay, an 80-year-old grandmother and her 11-year-old grandchild.
The intruder held a jagged box cutter to the grandmother's neck,
at which time the 11-year-old ran upstairs where he retrieved a .45 revolver.
The 11-year-old returned, pointed the gun at the intruder,
and shot and killed him.




Good shooting



David


Fortunately, he did not hit Granny as well.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 07:50 pm
cjhsa wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
There's gun grabbers on both sides of the aisle. Stomp 'em all.


Your emotional, violent nature is showing. I hope that you don't drink while carrying your weapons of choice.


Anyone with an avatar like that is obviously gay (read emotionally disturbed). I'm done with you.


Now you can make an informed opinion based on an avatar? You powers of observation and ability to stay on topic are only exceeded by your obvious bias and possible intake of too much gunpowder.

No, I am not gay and my emotional state is just fine thank you. For those who are gay.....it does not affect their standing as a person.

It only takes one "emotionally disturbed" person with a gun to put many innocent people at risk.
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shewolfnm
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 08:08 pm
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 09:39 pm
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
There's gun grabbers on both sides of the aisle. Stomp 'em all.


Your emotional, violent nature is showing. I hope that you don't drink while carrying your weapons of choice.


Anyone with an avatar like that is obviously gay (read emotionally disturbed). I'm done with you.


Now you can make an informed opinion based on an avatar? You powers of observation and ability to stay on topic are only exceeded by your obvious bias and possible intake of too much gunpowder.

No, I am not gay and my emotional state is just fine thank you. For those who are gay.....it does not affect their standing as a person.

It only takes one "emotionally disturbed" person with a gun to put many innocent people at risk.

When I considered myself to be at risk, something over a half century ago,
I got a gun and then felt pretty good; serene




David
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Fri 27 Jun, 2008 09:42 pm
Intrepid wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
This baby was so young
that he was defenseless under any circumstances.

If he had been just a few years older,
old enuf to walk and talk, I 'd wish that he had
the defensive firepower to kill his tormentor and that he did it.

O, Well.

February 4, 2002, in South Bend, Ind.,
Tony D. Murray broke into a home occupied by
Sue Gay, an 80-year-old grandmother and her 11-year-old grandchild.
The intruder held a jagged box cutter to the grandmother's neck,
at which time the 11-year-old ran upstairs where he retrieved a .45 revolver.
The 11-year-old returned, pointed the gun at the intruder,
and shot and killed him.




Good shooting



David


Fortunately, he did not hit Granny as well.

That IS fortunate, since he was rescuing her.
He only popped off one .45 caliber round.
That did the job.




David
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2008 09:24 am
"popping off" one round can hit more than the intended target.
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Intrepid
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2008 09:26 am
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
There's gun grabbers on both sides of the aisle. Stomp 'em all.


Your emotional, violent nature is showing. I hope that you don't drink while carrying your weapons of choice.


Anyone with an avatar like that is obviously gay (read emotionally disturbed). I'm done with you.


Now you can make an informed opinion based on an avatar? You powers of observation and ability to stay on topic are only exceeded by your obvious bias and possible intake of too much gunpowder.

No, I am not gay and my emotional state is just fine thank you. For those who are gay.....it does not affect their standing as a person.

It only takes one "emotionally disturbed" person with a gun to put many innocent people at risk.

When I considered myself to be at risk, something over a half century ago,
I got a gun and then felt pretty good; serene




David


Yeah, we have heard your story ad nauseum. You were 8 years old at the time...etc etc etc
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2008 11:22 am
Intrepid wrote:
"popping off" one round can hit more than the intended target.

That HAS happened.

When an emergency arises
(like having your grandmother being threatened with a box cutter at her throat)
u need to think fast and act fast to address that situation.

I take it that YOUR (Canadian) suggestion is to surrender as fast as possible,
with as much begging and abject grovelling as possible,
so as to evoke the pity of the violent criminal.

I wonder whether u also wish to apply that defense of begging n grovelling
to predatory animals. I 'm pretty sure that u have animals in Canadia.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2008 11:31 am
Is it TRUE that Canadians keep knee pads
at the ready, as emergency equipment
in case of the depredations of burglars, robbers or cougars ?


I don 't believe the rumors
that u Canadians actually conduct mandatory begging & grovelling drills for defensive purposes.

U don 't really DO that, do u ?
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parados
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2008 12:30 pm
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
"popping off" one round can hit more than the intended target.

That HAS happened.

When an emergency arises
(like having your grandmother being threatened with a box cutter at her throat)
u need to think fast and act fast to address that situation.
Yeah, going upstairs, getting a gun, coming back down while holding that gun before you have to end the threat by shooting the person.

Sounds like he didn't have to act fast at all. The fact that he could come down while visibly holding the gun and granny wasn't killed seems to me that it wasn't quite the life or death threat you are making it out to be. Which tells me one could have acted faster to defuse the situation without ever needing a gun.
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OmSigDAVID
 
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Reply Sat 28 Jun, 2008 02:20 pm
parados wrote:
OmSigDAVID wrote:
Intrepid wrote:
"popping off" one round can hit more than the intended target.

That HAS happened.

When an emergency arises
(like having your grandmother being threatened with a box cutter at her throat)
u need to think fast and act fast to address that situation.
Yeah, going upstairs, getting a gun, coming back down while holding that gun before you have to end the threat by shooting the person.

Sounds like he didn't have to act fast at all. The fact that he could come down while visibly holding the gun and granny wasn't killed seems to me that it wasn't quite the life or death threat you are making it out to be. Which tells me one could have acted faster to defuse the situation without ever needing a gun.

O, Really ? It tells u that.
So what is the Parados defensive strategy for this situation ?

and how is your strategy BETTER ?




David
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