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Michelle Obama has hated America for over 40 years?

 
 
Ramafuchs
 
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Reply Fri 21 Mar, 2008 07:00 pm
" OURS IS THE ONLY COUNTRY
deliberately
FOUNDED
ON A GOOD IDEA
-------------------------- John Gunther

Let the soup get some solt.
And let the non persons die decently without soup
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RexRed
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 01:15 am
A Brief for Whitey
by Patrick J. Buchanan

Posted: 03/21/2008

How would he pull it off? I wondered.

How would Barack explain to his press groupies why he sat silent in a pew for 20 years as the Rev. Jeremiah Wright delivered racist rants against white America for our maligning of Fidel and Gadhafi, and inventing AIDS to infect and kill black people?

How would he justify not walking out as Wright spewed his venom about "the U.S. of K.K.K. America," and howled, "God damn America!"

My hunch was right. Barack would turn the tables.

Yes, Barack agreed, Wright's statements were "controversial," and "divisive," and "racially charged," reflecting a "distorted view of America."

But we must understand the man in full and the black experience out of which the Rev. Wright came: 350 years of slavery and segregation.

Barack then listed black grievances and informed us what white America must do to close the racial divide and heal the country.

The "white community," said Barack, must start "acknowledging that what ails the African-American community does not just exist in the minds of black people; that the legacy of discrimination -- and current incidents of discrimination, while less overt than in the past -- are real and must be addressed. Not just with words, but with deeds ... ."

And what deeds must we perform to heal ourselves and our country?

The "white community" must invest more money in black schools and communities, enforce civil rights laws, ensure fairness in the criminal justice system and provide this generation of blacks with "ladders of opportunity" that were "unavailable" to Barack's and the Rev. Wright's generations.

What is wrong with Barack's prognosis and Barack's cure?

Only this. It is the same old con, the same old shakedown that black hustlers have been running since the Kerner Commission blamed the riots in Harlem, Watts, Newark, Detroit and a hundred other cities on, as Nixon put it, "everybody but the rioters themselves."

Was "white racism" really responsible for those black men looting auto dealerships and liquor stories, and burning down their own communities, as Otto Kerner said -- that liberal icon until the feds put him away for bribery.

Barack says we need to have a conversation about race in America.

Fair enough. But this time, it has to be a two-way conversation. White America needs to be heard from, not just lectured to.

This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its convictions, grievances and demands heard. And among them are these:

First, America has been the best country on earth for black folks. It was here that 600,000 black people, brought from Africa in slave ships, grew into a community of 40 million, were introduced to Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and prosperity blacks have ever known.

Wright ought to go down on his knees and thank God he is an American.

Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up blacks than white Americans. Untold trillions have been spent since the '60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell grants, student loans, legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into the mainstream.

Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.

Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over America have donated time and money to support soup kitchens, adult education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.

We hear the grievances. Where is the gratitude?

Barack talks about new "ladders of opportunity" for blacks.

Let him go to Altoona and Johnstown, and ask the white kids in Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters handing out scholarships for "deserving" white kids.

Is white America really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for African-Americans are seven times those of white America? Is it really white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some cities has reached 50 percent?

Is that the fault of white America or, first and foremost, a failure of the black community itself?

As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?

Is Barack aware that black-on-white rapes are 100 times more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times as common in the first three years of this decade as the reverse?

We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al about Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we hear nothing.

Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before, about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago.
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farmerman
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 03:47 pm
I heard Obamas speech the other night and it was nothing like what Pat portrays it as. Buchanan has always been a well versed "berserker" for Conservative causes. Hes the first to set his hair on fire and argue from clever but incorrect points of logic. Hes smart but often completely all wet. This is another time when thats so.
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hawkeye10
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 04:50 pm
farmerman wrote:
I heard Obamas speech the other night and it was nothing like what Pat portrays it as. Buchanan has always been a well versed "berserker" for Conservative causes. Hes the first to set his hair on fire and argue from clever but incorrect points of logic. Hes smart but often completely all wet. This is another time when thats so.


Has anyone taken Buchanan seriously this century??
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:25 pm
hawkeye10 wrote:
farmerman wrote:
I heard Obamas speech the other night and it was nothing like what Pat portrays it as. Buchanan has always been a well versed "berserker" for Conservative causes. Hes the first to set his hair on fire and argue from clever but incorrect points of logic. Hes smart but often completely all wet. This is another time when thats so.


Has anyone taken Buchanan seriously this century??
Mr Rex Red
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ossobuco
 
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Reply Sun 23 Mar, 2008 05:29 pm
I've avoided checking this thread. Maybe tomorrow.
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blatham
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 12:44 pm
I wish there wasn't so much religious turmoil. I wonder why we can't all just get along. I should respect Rex's version of christianity, even if I find it odd that hatred so often sits at the core of christ's message for him. And he should be a bit more open-minded that the theology of my mennonite tradition holds that Sodom was a holiday resort.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 12:50 pm
farmerman wrote:
I heard Obamas speech the other night and it was nothing like what Pat portrays it as. Buchanan has always been a well versed "berserker" for Conservative causes. Hes the first to set his hair on fire and argue from clever but incorrect points of logic. Hes smart but often completely all wet. This is another time when thats so.


So are you saying that nothing in the Buchanan piece is true?
Are you saying its all lies, or is there any truth (as you see it) in what he wrote?
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farmerman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 12:58 pm
In this case Buchanan takes items like
1Obama didnt throw Wright under the bus, instead he compared Wrights generation with today. Buchanan seems to have forgotten Swlma, or the Jim Crow laws, lynching s into the 50's , poll taxes, and literacy tests to vote. To ignore that is what Durant said about ignoring the lessons of history
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 01:32 pm
mysteryman

Much of what Buchanan said is spot on. Instead of blaming all the ills that the black communities experience upon the "Typical White" ,Obama's words. They should look within and clean up their own house.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 01:35 pm
au1929 wrote:
mysteryman

Much of what Buchanan said is spot on. Instead of blaming all the ills that the black communities experience upon the "Typical White" ,Obama's words. They should look within and clean up their own house.


I agree, but saying so publicly automatically makes me a racist.
That is the entire problem.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 01:43 pm
farmerman wrote:
In this case Buchanan takes items like
1Obama didnt throw Wright under the bus, instead he compared Wrights generation with today. Buchanan seems to have forgotten Swlma, or the Jim Crow laws, lynching s into the 50's , poll taxes, and literacy tests to vote. To ignore that is what Durant said about ignoring the lessons of history[/quote

Try as I might I can not remember any Jim Crow laws, lynching or poll taxes or literacy test to vote in NYCity or for that matter in most states in the US.
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au1929
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 01:59 pm
MM
Racism is in the eyes of the beholder. For instance if 80 to 90 % of whites had voted for the white candidate the howl of racism would have been heard across the land. However when 80/90% of the blacks voted for the black candidate not one word was said. Why?
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eoe
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 02:07 pm
Oh please. For how many centuries now have whites voted for the white candidate?
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snood
 
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Reply Mon 24 Mar, 2008 06:11 pm
<crickets>
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glitterbag
 
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Reply Sun 30 Mar, 2008 06:28 pm
The hospital in Annapolis Maryland didn't allow black patients to be in the same rooms as the white patients even in 1963. That's a shameful nugget I picked up about 5 years ago when an African-American nurse retired and the newspaper mentioned how the hospital had white only wings and she worked only in the black-only wings when she started in 1963. I don't know when that practice stopped but I know it wasn't that way when I received treatment there in 1978.

Folks here in Maryland are not always proud of the Eastern Shore and it's foot-dragging when it comes to fully integrated communities, clubs, churches, you name it. And I suppose I don't need to remind anyone that the year is 2008. If you did not grow up or live in an area that was bitterly racist, it's hard to believe racism exists. I really don't think I know many racists, but every once in a while someone can flabbergast me with a remark so cruel, stupid and hateful it makes me very sad for all of us.
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au1929
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 08:39 am
Michelle LaVaughn Robinson AKA Michelle Obama (Twilight Zone)

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Reply to: [email protected]
Date: 2008-04-07, 8:01PM EDT


In her senior thesis at Princeton, Michele Obama, the wife of Barack Obama stated that America was a nation founded on "crime and hatred". Moreover, she stated that whites in America were "ineradicably racist". The 1985 thesis, titled "Princeton-Educated Blacks and the Black Community" was written under her maiden name, Michelle LaVaughn Robinson.

Michelle Obama stated in her thesis that to "Whites at Princeton , it often seems as if, to them, she will always be Black first..." However, it was reported by a fellow black classmate, "If those "Whites at Princeton " really saw Michelle as one who always would "be Black first," it seems that she gave them that impression".

Most alarming is Michele Obama's use of the terms "separationist" and "integrationist" when describing the views of black people.

Mrs. Obama clearly identifies herself with a "separationist" view of race.

"By actually working with the Black lower class or within their communities as a result of their ideologies, a separationist may better understand the desperation of their situation and feel more hopeless about a resolution as opposed to an integrationist who is ignorant to their plight."

Obama writes that the path she chose by attending Princeton would likely lead to her "further integration and/or assimilation into a white cultural and social structure that will only allow me to remain on the periphery of society; never becoming a full participant."

Michele Obama clearly has a chip on her shoulder.

Not only does she see separate black and white societies in America , but she elevates black over white in her world.



Here is another passage that is uncomfortable and ominous in meaning:

"There was no doubt in my mind that as a member of the black community, I am obligated to this community and will utilize all of my present and future resources to benefit the black community first and foremost. "

What is Michelle Obama planning to do with her future resources if she's first lady that will elevate black over white in America ?

The following passage appears to be a call to arms for affirmative action policies that could be the hallmark of an Obama administration.

"Predominately white universities like Princeton are socially and academically designed to cater to the needs of the white students comprising the bulk of their enrollments."



The conclusion of her thesis is alarming.

Michelle Obama's poll of black alumni concludes that other black students at Princeton do not share her obsession with blackness. But rather than celebrate, she is horrified that black alumni identify with our common American culture more than they value the color of their skin. "I hoped that these findings would help me conclude that despite the high degree of identification with whites as a result of the educational and occupational path that black Princeton alumni follow, the alumni would still maintain a certain level of identification with the black community. However, these findings do not support this possibility."

Is it no wonder that most black alumni ignored her racist questionnaire? Only 89 students responded out of 400 who were asked for input.

Michelle Obama does not look into a crowd of Obama supporters and see Americans. She sees black people and white people eternally conflicted with one another.

The thesis provides a trove of Mrs. Obama's thoughts and world view seen through a race-based prism.

This is a very divisive view for a potential first lady that would do untold damage to race relations in this country in a Barack Obama administration.



Michelle Obama's intellectually refined racism should give American's a pause for deep concern.

Now maybe she's changed, but she sure sounds like someone with an axe to grind with America . Will the press let Michelle get a free pass over her obviously racist comment about American whites? I am sure that it will. But it shouldn't.

FYI:

I am not a supporter of any of the candidates for president. In fact, they all leave a bad taste in my mouth. However, I am definitely sick of the main stream media (MSM) feeding us all this crap about Obama being an agent of change.

Has anyone stopped to think what kind of change; really?

PS: We paid for her scholarship.



If you do not think, she will not persuade her husband, think again!!!
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Butrflynet
 
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Reply Thu 17 Apr, 2008 03:58 pm
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 06:40 am
eoe wrote:
Oh please. For how many centuries now have whites voted for the white candidate?


Probably the same length that blacks have voted for the white candidate. Hasn't really been a lot of alternatives have there?

now, have an answer to au1929's question?
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eoe
 
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Reply Fri 18 Apr, 2008 08:43 am
Yeah, I have an answer. hmmm...let's see. Ms. Obama's senior thesis was written in 1985, when she was about 20 or 21, having completed four years of education in a predominantly white institution, starting out on Day 1 with a student almost getting snatched out of the school rather than sharing a room with her? And they'd like to think that she didn't know what was going on?

Gee, I wonder where Michelle got such ridiculous ideas as separate black and white societies in America?

What many of you people fail to understand is, these experiences are shared by many African-Americans and the conclusions drawn from them are commonplace. There are no chips on our shoulders or lingering resentments. We can't afford that. It is what it is. Facts. Based on personal experience which many of you can't even imagine. I don't want to delve into my own personal trove of experiences being a "first", but I've certainly had my share.

There are just some aspects of life amongst African-Americans and other "minorities" of all classes that many whites will never understand. And all of the discussion and conversation in the world won't help that. And it's not only because you can't understand it but you simply chose not to.

Now I'm sure you'll flip this around and accuse me of throwing up the "you just don't understand" line as a deflection but it is what it is. Sa la vie.

I will say though that most people manage to grow and evolve throughout their lives and the way you view the world at 40 may be a tad bit different than at 21. But now I guess I'm just making up excuses...
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