Michelle Obama has hated America for over 40 years?

farmerman wrote:

Im thinking that the real "America HAter" is our present oligarchic administration which has tried to smash the middle class, fund a war of attrition under fraudulent circumstances, wreck the currency by inducing hyperinflation, and a couple of other tidbits of treasonous activities. Hows that for idocy equal to yours?

It that why "our present oligarchic administration" also gave the middle class a tax break?

Is that why the super rich still pay 99% of the taxes in our country as it is?

(Cynical)

Smile

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FM is that also why social security is currently bleeding out country to death right now? Is this out of the distain for the middle class by our present oligarchic administration?

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Are we talking about the same oligarchic administration that American voters (both black and white) voted back into the White House by an overwhelming mandate?

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RexRed wrote:

FM is that also why social security is currently bleeding out country to death right now? Is this out of the distain for the middle class by our present oligarchic administration?

Social Security is solvant for at least 50 years.

In fact, it's that trust fund that has kept our country from selling even more of itself to China over the last 20+years.

The current problem is not Social Security, it's government spending.

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RexRed wrote:

Are we talking about the same oligarchic administration that American voters (both black and white) voted back into the White House by an overwhelming mandate?

Please define "overwhelming".

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maporsche wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Are we talking about the same oligarchic administration that American voters (both black and white) voted back into the White House by an overwhelming mandate?

Please define "overwhelming".

Look up a political "mandate". It is a precise term. X amount of votes over the opponent.

"Overwhelming" considering the stink that a FEW on the left have made for the last 8 years.

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Rationalization is a cowardly way to denounce racism.

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Obama Defends Rev. Wright, Blasts Imus

Wednesday, March 19, 2008 8:47 AM

It took Barack Obama more than a year to repudiate his former pastor's racially charged anti-American tirades, but when it came to denouncing Don Imus for his racial slurs against the Rutgers girls basketball team, it took Obama only a week to demand the shock jock be fired, Fox News notes.

In a major speech Tuesday, Obama condemned the Rev. Jeremiah Wright's shocking verbal assaults against the U.S. dating back to 2001.

But in April of last year, Obama was quick to demand Imus' ouster for making a racially insensitive remark.

"There's nobody on my staff who would still be working for me if they made a comment like that about anybody of any ethnic group. And I would hope that NBC ends up having that same attitude," Obama told ABC News in an April 11 interview demanding Imus' resignation.

Obama told ABC in the interview he would never appear again on Imus' show after Imus set off a firestorm of outrage when he called members of the women's basketball team at Rutgers University "nappy-headed hos" on his popular morning talk show.

"He didn't just cross the line," Obama raged then. "He fed into some of the worst stereotypes that my two young daughters are having to deal with today in America."

Obama has downplayed Wright for Wright's insensitive remarks, saying he has done good work with the poor and AIDS victims. Yet Obama did not afford the same respect to Imus, who has devoted considerable energy to helping children with cancer, wounded war veterans, and others.

Obama's pastor has blamed the government for HIV, cast the country as institutionally racist, and said God should damn the United States.

But Obama, who Fox recalled has had a 20-year relationship with Wright, claimed in his speech Tuesday that he had no idea Wright had ever expressed such incendiary remarks.

When some of Wright's remarks were publicized last year, Obama rescinded an invitation for Wright to speak at his Feb. 10, 2007, presidential announcement, but had failed to fully address the matter until Tuesday's speech.

When Fox News asked about the different responses to his pastor and to Imus, Obama spokesman Tommy Vietor questioned the premise of the comparison and defended Obama's response in each case. "He spoke out both times, so it's entirely consistent," he told Foxnews.com Tuesday. While Obama didn't condemn Wright's views outright until last Friday, Vietor said Obama had started putting the issue to rest long before now.

"He denounced specific comments months ago and he gave a thoughtful speech today," Vietor told Fox News Tuesday.

2008 Newsmax.

Comment RexRed: I might add regarding Imus' comment:

The young "girls" on the team had tattoos, gaudy jewelry and were dressed in a not so lady like a manner... One might add this was shocking even for a left wing radio host??? Was Imus even a bit too old fashioned to have been exposed to and shocked by such attire?

Was Imus not fundamentally RIGHT?! Where is Bill Cosby on this one? Although Imus' choice of words was rather oblique were they not apropos? If young girls (BLACK OR WHITE) don't want to be referred to in that way maybe they should not dress that way?! Maybe they should CLEAN UP THIER ACT!? For Imus (a liberal left wing nut) to react in such a manner must now in hind sight give one pause and renewed reflection, and vindication. Am I not saying what everyone really was thinking but dared not to voice?

Of course they weren't ho's but did they look like them? Did they dress like them; did they not justifiably for Imus case give that appearance off? What are schools doing to teach them better hygiene? NOTHING! Is this not a problem in schools today concerning the rap (white AND black) music that turns;

Quote: "Young girls into sex machines and young boys into dirtballs"

Lucille Ball

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I love rap music like the next guy. I love to groove to my Snoop Doggie Dog in the clubs too! I'll dance all night to that music! Smile

I do not blame the girls for this one bit; I blame the teachers and coaches.

What the heck are they there for but to teach and coach! Not only in sports but sports etiquette. Had I been their coach I would have taken one look at them and said, "Go back home and take off all of that gaudy jewelry and put on some respectable DRESS clothes". Do you know what dress clothes are? If no then you teach them what they are! Stop speaking words like yo homie bitches (in public on school time) and put on your best face and manners! THAT is coaching! What are the consequences??? One word, Imus

I would have said you are representing this school and HIGHER learning you are not side girl roadie's tagging along with a hip hop rap band?!

Children need to be taught this, why? Because they are young and do not always clearly see themselves. Like girls when they first try make-up do a terrible job and need an older girl/sister or mom to teach them the more subtle touches. Like boys and their awkward manners. Teachers should set an example and be bold enough to demand/require more from their students! That is why when they get out of school they are unprepared for the job market and when they (even MANY white guys) walk into a job interview they are, "wut up yo yo?"

They don't get hired... they fall between the cracks and end up junkies and losers... This ties back to terrible cowardly teachers and coaches who do not do their jobs.

There is a time for seriousness and WORK ethics and a time for fun. In schools the line needs to be CLEARLY drawn for the sake of the kids and the bright WHOLESOME futures they can have if they learn this early enough to make a difference.

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Youre a damn liar

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The young "girls" on the team had tattoos, gaudy jewelry and were dressed in a not so lady like a manner... One might add this was shocking even for a left wing radio host??? Was Imus even a bit too old fashioned to have been exposed to and shocked by such attire?

Its obvious youve never seen the team. Several of the girls were pre-med and pre law with high GPA's and others were enrolled in similar programs. Only 1 of the girls failed to graduate (I believe that even STanford would be jealous of that). Imus was being a jerk, Anyway, weheres Imus now? hes irrelevant.

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I love rap music like the next guy. I love to groove to my Snoop Doggie Dog in the clubs too! I'll dance all night to that music

How "socially conscious" of you . Noone gives a rats ass. Ill bet you even have a black firend or two.

Obama secured my vote in his camp with his speech. I think you missed the point as did all the other "hate radio" hosts. His speech was to embrace Wrights comments as from another age of reality. Then Obama went beyond Wright and talked about todays reality. His speech was really good and (IMHO) one of the best speeches of this decade.

In contrast I then heard curious George speak about

1How we arent in a recession

2How we suffered some unexpected consequences in Iraq

Itll be so good when we can get down to cleaning up the mess of poop that this admin has left us with. Its almost an insurmountable problem.

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maporsche wrote:

RexRed wrote:
Are we talking about the same oligarchic administration that American voters (both black and white) voted back into the White House by an overwhelming mandate?

Please define "overwhelming".

To which the response is:

RexRed wrote:

maporsche wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Are we talking about the same oligarchic administration that American voters (both black and white) voted back into the White House by an overwhelming mandate?

Please define "overwhelming".

Look up a political "mandate". It is a precise term. X amount of votes over the opponent.

Bullshit--it's a judgment call, it is pre-eminently subjective.

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"Overwhelming" considering the stink that a FEW on the left have made for the last 8 years.

Once again, bullshit--in 2000, Bush lost the popular vote by more than 300,000 votes, 47.9% to Gore's 48.4%--the Supreme Court gave him that one in the electoral college by shutting down the Florida recount, which had been ordered by the Florida Supreme Court.

In 2004, the Shrub's margin of victory was 3,000,000 votes, out of more than 122,000,000 votes cast, at 50.7% to 48.3%. The 2000 election was no mandate at all, because he didn't win even half the vote, and got less of the popular vote than his opponent. In 2004, his margin of victory was less than 3%. There is no way that a reasonable person would ever claim that the Shrub had a mandate at all in 2000, nor an overwhelming mandate in 2004.

You just make this **** up as you go along.

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Michelle Obama is cut from the same cloth as her husband. An ambitious power-grabber who has her intellect deeply rooted in anti-American idealogy, and one who meant every word she said about being proud of America so infrequently. As First Lady she would do a tremendous job leeching off of the American taxpayer while privately (and publicly), spewing contempt for American values and its mainstream interests.

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So we should elect her husband immediately.

Perhaps the Rev. Wright will consent to serving his God D#%med America as a cabinet minister, or a goodwill ambassador to some important global post. Louis Farrakan may be another fantastic choice within an Obama Administration.

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Lusatian wrote:

Michelle Obama is cut from the same cloth as her husband. An ambitious power-grabber who has her intellect deeply rooted in anti-American idealogy, and one who meant every word she said about being proud of America so infrequently. As First Lady she would do a tremendous job leeching off of the American taxpayer while privately (and publicly), spewing contempt for American values and its mainstream interests.

Nothing like the buzzsaw of hatred to get down to the truth so quickly.

The time away has apparently neither softened your heart nor sharpened you intellect.

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farmerman wrote:

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His speech was really good and (IMHO) one of the best speeches of this decade.

I don't know that I've heard a better speech in my lifetime, fm. And when I take into account that he wrote it himself...goll dang.

Whether it will 'work', that is, whether it will manage to lift enough folks up to the moral and intellectual challenges it presented is another question but that question supposes such a thing might be possible in a population which has been so heavily and effectively propagandized.

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farmerman wrote:

Youre a damn liar
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The young "girls" on the team had tattoos, gaudy jewelry and were dressed in a not so lady like a manner... One might add this was shocking even for a left wing radio host??? Was Imus even a bit too old fashioned to have been exposed to and shocked by such attire?
Its obvious youve never seen the team. Several of the girls were pre-med and pre law with high GPA's and others were enrolled in similar programs. Only 1 of the girls failed to graduate (I believe that even STanford would be jealous of that). Imus was being a jerk, Anyway, weheres Imus now? hes irrelevant.

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I love rap music like the next guy. I love to groove to my Snoop Doggie Dog in the clubs too! I'll dance all night to that music
How "socially conscious" of you . Noone gives a rats ass. Ill bet you even have a black firend or two.

Obama secured my vote in his camp with his speech. I think you missed the point as did all the other "hate radio" hosts. His speech was to embrace Wrights comments as from another age of reality. Then Obama went beyond Wright and talked about todays reality. His speech was really good and (IMHO) one of the best speeches of this decade.

In contrast I then heard curious George speak about

1How we arent in a recession

2How we suffered some unexpected consequences in Iraq

Itll be so good when we can get down to cleaning up the mess of poop that this admin has left us with. Its almost an insurmountable problem.

I'm sure you have a rat's ass to give...

Many people who are law students still have "no class". You seem to have totally have missed the point. I don't expect much from facilities already taxed to the brink of incoherence.

Teachers and coaches can instill this "class" by simply teaching manners and a good dress code. My point is that I can love rap music yet I still know how to express myself in an intelligent way when necessary. And if you think yo homey/biatch is fine (white or black) than go try and get a job with that lingo buddy!

You will be washing dishes with that law degree. Imus is back on talk radio but will these girls have a fighting chance in the real world once they graduate? Will the gaudy jewelry and their manners, tattoos and poor social skills which have been allowed to perpetuate in their lives lead to their undoing?

It is sad that people are still judged by the way they carry themselves and not by the piece of paper a school hands out after four years. Imus is a prime example of that judgment. And there are many Imus' pulling the strings on who get hired and fired in these high positions in society today. You're living in an alternate reality FM, like it or not FM, rat's ass or any other type of rodent you choose to represent yourself as.

If you have a chance to hire some with good diction and they do not precede ever sentence with yo yo and does not call you their homey in the first few sentences out of their mouth, who will get the job?

You seem oblivious to the fact that there really are people like that (both white and black) coming out of high schools and colleges that have never been taught the finer skills of how most people communicate in the business world.

This trust in people exists from car sales men to CEOs. Many people don't buy a car from someone who precedes the sale with the word "yo". For that FM you get an F. You might get left back and learn how to not only talk right but you might learn how to spell also. Clean that "rats ass" up a bit yo.

I saw the head of the team stand right up in front of the world on national television and speak on the microphone and her earrings were bigger than a fist! Is that not gaudy jewelry? I don't care if they were pure silver baby! They screamed hooker!

Someone needs to tell these girls that law degree or not those earrings say pimp to people! That is my whole point that dress codes and etiquette standards get you jobs just as much as law degrees. LIKE IT OR NOT!

You are not the one giving out the rats asses anyway! How many people do you hire and fire a day? Point made.

Funny, how you find it convenient to insult me for even liking rap music. Well I not only like it I love it. But I also know how to leave my rap at home and play dress up in the big world. I had successful teachers both liberal and conservative who taught me how to behave seemingly in public.

That element of society is dying with the progressive's movement to corrupt our youth in colleges and universities across the country. The only ones who pay are the students in the log run. I don't even expect you to realize that FM. It seems you can't see virtue in our president nor can you see it in the common man or woman. You don't seem to display it in your own moral fiber either nor in your "rats ass" lingo gutter talk!

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Setanta wrote:

maporsche wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Are we talking about the same oligarchic administration that American voters (both black and white) voted back into the White House by an overwhelming mandate?

Please define "overwhelming".

To which the response is:

RexRed wrote:
maporsche wrote:
RexRed wrote:
Are we talking about the same oligarchic administration that American voters (both black and white) voted back into the White House by an overwhelming mandate?

Please define "overwhelming".

Look up a political "mandate". It is a precise term. X amount of votes over the opponent.

Bullshit--it's a judgment call, it is pre-eminently subjective.

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"Overwhelming" considering the stink that a FEW on the left have made for the last 8 years.

Once again, bullshit--in 2000, Bush lost the popular vote by more than 300,000 votes, 47.9% to Gore's 48.4%--the Supreme Court gave him that one in the electoral college by shutting down the Florida recount, which had been ordered by the Florida Supreme Court.

In 2004, the Shrub's margin of victory was 3,000,000 votes, out of more than 122,000,000 votes cast, at 50.7% to 48.3%. The 2000 election was no mandate at all, because he didn't win even half the vote, and got less of the popular vote than his opponent. In 2004, his margin of victory was less than 3%. There is no way that a reasonable person would ever claim that the Shrub had a mandate at all in 2000, nor an overwhelming mandate in 2004.

You just make this **** up as you go along.

We live in a republic AND maybe you should read the New York Times on who won the Gore/Bush election... They say Bush won it after months of scrutiny over the electoral votes... Not News Max.

So what the heck are you talking about? A mandate is not subjective either, again the fantasy world of Set. A political mandate is an exact percentage of electoral votes above the opponent. Apparently you do not realize we have a constitution.

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Bush's 50.7 percent of the vote in 2004 is considered a mandate. Overwhelming considering the nasty lowlife stink the left made over Bush for the prior four years.

Overwhelming considering it happened to a "wartime" US President.

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rex the wonder squirrel

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Teachers and coaches can instill this "class" by simply teaching manners and a good dress code. My point is that I can love rap music yet I still know how to express myself in an intelligent way when necessary. And if you think yo homey/biatch is fine (white or black) than go try and get a job with that lingo buddy

You have taken the point made by Imus as TRUTH, when it had been shown over and over again that he was dead wrong about these girls.Your argument against the law notwithstanding. You are consistently inane.

I was gonna comment about your idiotic view on the 2000 and 2004 elections but , as I was laughing so much , set beat me to it. Mandate, indeed.

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RexRed wrote:

Bush's 50.7 percent of the vote in 2004 is considered a mandate. Overwhelming considering the nasty lowlife stink the left made over Bush for the prior four years.

Overwhelming considering it happened to a "wartime" US President.

I can think of no situation where, out of a possible 100, 50.7% constitutes "overwhelming".
Heck, that's just squeaking by.

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Michelle Obama has hated America for over 40 years?

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