Michelle Obama has hated America for over 40 years?

My Bohemian gypsy blood, my perma-tan and black eyes do not really qualify me for the ideal Arian race anyway.

Are you saying because Hillary accepted a donation she is anti-blue eyed white?

That is ludicrous. She is also not defending him and dodging the question when asked about it by the press.

I could have sworn I wrote what I was saying.

You say she's not dodging questions when asked about it by the press? Really? I'd like to see what she answered. Have any links?

I don't think the press is pushing the question of her being anti white and her super delegate IS openly supporting a white woman, (though in general should not be required too) I would think that this would pass any acid test of scrutiny concerning their character and past affiliations with "racists". I also believe the press could figure that out on their own too.

The statue has nothing to do with the bible so it's irrellavant is what I'm saying.

You're wrong about this and it's been confirmed, serveral times.

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That is the whole point is that I disagree with you that the statue DOES have to do with the Bible and the "law of liberty". You have to literally be BLIND to not SEE that. Why not let society as a whole decide what is "relevant"?

Law = tablets

of

Liberty = The lady's name

(secret biblical symbolism of the French (free thinking) Masons)

Other than "the law OF liberty" spoken of in the Bible, law (conservatives) and liberty (liberals) are otherwise seemingly diametrically opposed forces of society.

I have put much thought into this NEW law of liberty referred to and LIVED by Jesus and detailed in the Epistles of Paul and the other apostles. I suggest you do the same before you attempt to simply knock it down.

I don't really think you want to go there Mr Red, the whole of society would just as likely as not brand you as unfit for citizenship and exile you to some island in the Bearing sea.

Fact: It's not a biblical statue. You can't rewrite history.

This country doesn't write it's laws on tablets.
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Its Bering Sea you shwantzkopf. The Bearing Sea is over in the automotive department.


Does baiting REd give you some thrill, cany tou see hes a bit off bubble.

I'm a glutton when he comes to bear baiting; not so much into bear hating but when I see a bear coming down the street I usually cross to the other side but some times I just get an urge to toss some bacon. Bering uh? well speeling never was my strange forte. spreaking of speeling how ya doink Framerman?

I do get a great satisfaction for baiting Rex in this way. I have nothing but contempt for this thread and it's original post. It'a absurdity is without measure. If Rex wants parade around his idiotic propaganda, I'm going to illustrate who he is. This thread has no real merit. I view it as being disposable.

He took the bait beautifully though.

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So where does Falwells Liberty University and Liberty school of law fit into this?

Huh?

Well folks, you most all know that I don't have a great deal of time to spend on forums on the internet, and while I admit I think Redwhatever is short a few bricks of a load.......I will indeed tell him what I like about our country (not just his, but ours). We welcome immigrants, frankly we would not be the county we are with out all the French, Irish, German, Polish, Greek, and dozens of other countries emigrees. Now I lived in an area where many immigrants decided to settle, what this means is that I was exposed to many different cultures and learned to love the food the music, the family life that was typical in many first generation homes. This meant that I did not live in exile with only people who had always lived in the same county since the Mayflower. I do pity Redface, because he/she is so fearful of diversity......and in some areas it would be considered racism,,,,But you never know, the old pain in the butt with all the African-American issues might eventually get an education. I know it's not something that Red thinks he needs, but isn't that sad...to be so afraid of diversity that you rail about race issues.

I notice that the poster doesn't rail about Wall-Mart, McDonald's or any of the other 1000 points of light that were supposed to buoy this economy, so I don't really know what else I can contribute at least to him/her....that person is locked in and focused on a target. Just very sad that they are after the wrong target. My advice to Red....get help and get back on the meds.

How DAre you make snidely comments on my spelling you bullshit rangler.I do admit that youre about half smart, so you may have somtehin about my spellin, but to bring it up in public like the spney toad you are , is downright uneducated.
Im here to add sanity to this interesting ,albeit pointless discussion. I still firmly assert that Chamberlains 20th Me was the advance brigade of STrongs forces because to come up in lines from the backside of LRT ones troops would encounter a series of short steep precipices of diabase rock. One would find it difficult to march up these shallow sheer faces only a few feet tall but daunting nonetheless.So the battaglioni advances were in order from the North and West, on the West flank of LRTand would thus , in order to preserve some degree of order, have to be the first ones in lione.

Isnt that what this entire thread was about?

The negative facts are piling up and the are smelling like crap! Mr and Mrs Obama have a history of America hater pals.

Obama Attended Hate America Sermon
Sunday, March 16, 2008 7:14 PM
By: Ronald Kessler



Obama claims he was completely unaware that the Reverend Wright's trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ targeted "white" America.

Contrary to Senator Barack Obama's claim that he never heard his pastor Jeremiah A. Wright, Jr. preach hatred of America, Obama was in the pews last July 22 when the minister blamed the "white arrogance" of America's Caucasian majority for the world's suffering, especially the oppression of blacks.


Senator Obama has sought to separate himself from his pastor's incendiary remarks, issuing a statement Friday rejecting them as "inflammatory and appalling" but failing to renounce Wright himself for his venomous and paranoid denunciations of America.


In his press release, Obama claimed, "The statements that Rev. Wright made that are the cause of this controversy were not statements I personally heard him preach while I sat in the pews of Trinity [United Church of Christ] or heard him utter in private conversation."


Appearing on cable news shows this past weekend, Obama claimed when he saw recent videos that have Wright making such comments as "God damn America," he was "shocked." Obama implied that the reverend had not used such derogatory language in any of the church services Obama attended over the past two decades.


If Obama's claims are true that he was completely unaware that Wright's trademark preaching style at the Trinity United Church of Christ has targeted "white" America and Israel, he would have been one of the few people in Chicago to be so uninformed. Wright's reputation for spewing hate is well known.


In fact, Obama was present in the South Side Chicago church on July 22 last year when Jim Davis, a freelance correspondent for Newsmax, attended services along with Obama. [See: "Obama's Church: Cauldron of Division."]


In his sermon that day, Wright tore into America, referring to the "United States of White America" and lacing his sermon with expletives as Obama listened. Hearing Wright's attacks on his own country, Obama had the opportunity to walk out, but Davis said the senator sat in his pew and nodded in agreement.


Addressing the Iraq war, Wright thundered, "Young African-American men" were "dying for nothing." The "illegal war," he shouted, was "based on Bush's lies" and is being "fought for oil money."


Obama's most famous celebrity backer, Oprah Winfrey began attending Wright's church in 1984. Last year, Newsmax magazine reported that Winfrey abruptly stopped attending years ago, and suggested that she did so to distance herself from Wright's inflammatory rhetoric. She soon found herself a target of Wright, who excoriated her for having broken with "traditional faith."


The Reverend Wright's anti-white theology that Senator Obama expressed surprise over is evident on the church's website. The site says the congregation subscribes to what it calls the Black Value System, which is described as a disavowal of "our racist competitive society" and the pursuit of "middle-classness." That is defined as a way for American society to "snare" blacks rather than "killing them off directly" or "placing them in concentration camps," just as the country structures "an economic environment that induces captive youth to fill the jails and prisons."


"In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01," Wright wrote in the church-affiliated magazine Trumpet four years after the attacks. "White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ?'disappeared' as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns."



The Relationship Unravels


Senator Obama now is attempting to minimize his long and close relationship with the controversial minister.

On Friday, John McCain's campaign distributed a Wall Street Journal op-ed "Obama and the Minister" written under my byline based on my reporting for Newsmax going back to early January of this year.


The op-ed included details of a sermon Wright gave at Howard University blaming America for starting the AIDS virus, training professional killers, importing drugs, shamelessly supporting Israel, and creating a racist society that would never elect a black man as president. [See: "Obama's Minister's Hatred of America."]


Obama's campaign quickly responded to the Wall Street Journal op-ed, posting a statement on the Huffington Post. In his statement, Obama acknowledged that some of Wright's statements have been "inflammatory and appalling."


Saying he strongly condemns Wright's comments, Obama continued, "I categorically denounce any statement that disparages our great country or serves to divide us from our allies. I also believe that words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue, whether it's on the campaign stump or in the pulpit. In sum, I reject outright the statements by Rev. Wright that are at issue." [emphasis added]


Again, Obama moved to narrowly distance himself from specific comments Wright had made, while still praising his minister in recent interviews for leading him to Jesus and preaching a "social gospel."


Obama went on to claim that he first learned about Wright's controversial statements when he began his presidential campaign. But this assertion conflicts with the fact that just before Obama's nationally televised campaign kickoff rally on Feb. 10, 2007, the candidate disinvited Wright from giving the public invocation.


At the time, Wright explained: "When [Obama's] enemies find out that in 1984 I went to Tripoli" to visit Col. Muammar el-Qaddafi with Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, "a lot of his Jewish support will dry up quicker than a snowball in hell."


According to Wright, Obama then told him, "'You can get kind of rough in the sermons, so what we've decided is that it's best for you not to be out there in public.'" Still, Obama and his family prayed privately with Wright just before the presidential announcement.


Apparently Obama never foresaw Wright's sermons making national television or becoming a sensation on YouTube. But lending graphic detail to the saga, ABC News and other networks began running a 2003 sermon in which Wright said, "The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ?'God Bless America.' No, no, no, God damn America, that's in the Bible, for killing innocent people ... God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme." [Click Here to see video]


Obama has described Wright as a sounding board and mentor. Wright is one of the first people Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004. Obama consulted Wright before deciding to run for president. The title of Obama's bestseller "The Audacity of Hope" comes from one of Wright's sermons. Obama's "Yes We Can!" slogan is one of Wright's exhortations.


Apologists for Wright have said that what he says is normal in black churches, and many blacks claim such preaching cannot be understood by whites.


"If you're black, it's hard to say what you truly think and not upset white people," the New York Times quoted James Cone as saying. Cone is a professor at Union Theological Seminary and the father of what is known as black liberation theology.


But Juan Williams, a Fox News commentator and author of "Enough: The Phony Leaders, Dead-End Movements, and Culture of Failure That Are Undermining Black America," tells Newsmax that Wright's sermons reflect "the victim mindset that is so self-defeating in the black community and one that is played on by weak black leadership that chooses to have black people identified as victims rather than inspiring them as people who have overcome. In posing as victims, they say the most prejudiced and vicious things, not only about whites but about America. They call it theology. In fact, it's nothing but bigotry."


In failing to condemn Wright himself and claiming that he was unaware of the preacher's hate-filled speech, Obama is continuing a longstanding pattern.


Obama often refers to Wright as being "like an old uncle, who sometimes says things I don't agree with." Wright is not Obama's "uncle" ?- a person born into a blood relationship ?- but a man he has cultivated for decades as a close friend, mentor and adviser.


After Newsmax broke the story on Jan. 14 that Wright's church gave an award to Louis Farrakhan in December for lifetime achievement, Obama again sought to denounce his minister's action without criticizing Wright himself.


Like Wright, Farrakhan has repeatedly made hate-filled statements targeting Jews (calling Judaism a "gutter religion"), whites, America, and homosexuals. He has called whites "blue-eyed devils" and the "anti-Christ." He has described Jews as "bloodsuckers" who control the government, the media, and some black organizations.


After the Newsmax story, Obama issued a statement purportedly addressing the issue.


"I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan," Obama said.


Again, Obama was careful not to condemn Farrakhan himself or Wright who had spoken adoringly of Farrakhan and put their church behind the award to the controversial Nation of Islam leader.


"When Minister Farrakhan speaks, black America listens," Trumpet quoted Wright as saying. "His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening. He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest."


Obama adroitly said, "I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree."


In fact, Trumpet is published by Wright's church using the church's offices. Wright's daughters serve as publisher and executive editor.


Having gotten away with sidestepping Wright's adoring comments about Farrakhan, Obama told Jewish leaders flatly in Cleveland on Jan. 24 that the award was because of Farrakhan's work with ex-offenders. To date, no news outlet has pointed out that Obama's claim is false.


Obama went on to explain away Wright's anti-Zionist statements as being rooted in his anger over the Jewish state's support for South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. As with his claim that the award to Farrakhan was made because of his work with ex-offenders, Obama made that up. Wright's statements denouncing Israel have not been qualified in any way.


On Fox News' Hannity & Colmes on Saturday, Obama said he would have quit the church if he had "repeatedly" been present when Wright made inflammatory statements. He was not asked why he did not quit the church when it gave an award to Farrakhan.


Having considered Wright a friend and mentor for two decades, Obama now often mentions that his pastor recently retired. Wright suggested to the New York Times last year that he and Obama might have to do something of a distancing act in the run up to the election.


"If Barack gets past the primary, he might have to publicly distance himself from me," Wright was quoted by The New York Times. "I said it to Barack personally, and he said, ?'Yeah, that might have to happen.'"


2008 Newsmax.

Im thinking that the real "America HAter" is our present oligarchic administration which has tried to smash the middle class, fund a war of attrition under fraudulent circumstances, wreck the currency by inducing hyperinflation, and a couple of other tidbits of treasonous activities. Hows that for idocy equal to yours?

I dunno FM . . . Rex is using Newsmax as a source . . . when it comes to idiocy, they have no peers . . .

The same stories are also circulation in the NY times also. All over youtube too.

If it was a non story Barak would not have tried to quell the flames and firestorm. Barak according to Rasmussen polls is now trailing McCain by 6 points. Back in Ohio he was tied with McCain.

I (as ordained clergy) once walked out of a church.

It was a church in Dallas Texas. The name of the church was called "Souls Harbor" A Baptist minister friend of mine at the time begged me to come to a gathering. I was shocked at what was going on there. the church was full of dirty people with obviously very low I.Q.'s (reminded me of gamblers) considering there could stand there for twenty minutes with their arms up in the air while the fire a brimstone preacher kept repeating and screeching the words "Touch the hand of God "! There were no scripture readings or intellectual reasoning shared with the congregation just repeated words over and over like some modern trance music with people on ecstasy. Brainless dumb stupid people herded like cattle by the hundreds all in none building!
I saw the white preacher bang a ninety year old lady to the ground and say "Your back it healed!"

Then the same "white" preacher went over to a black man and said Jesus told him that this black man was using drugs again. The preacher bopped the black man on the forehead and knocked him down on the ground and the black man began to froth at the mouth in total shock and wreathing on the floor in total embarrassment and shame.

I thought to myself, "So this is how God loves our problems out of us!" I got up and walked out of teh circus chruch never to return again. I will keep my Bible to my side and reject any and all of this type of false religion.

I don't need to sell my soul for a voting block!


False prophets! BEWARE!