The US is a great place to be anti-American

You didn't answer the question.

cjhsa wrote:

You didn't answer the question.

I didnt answer the question the way you wanted, but that doesnt mean I didnt answer it.
You presented a premise that could NOT happen, so there is no answer that can be given.

Anything is possible.

You see, we Americans are congregants to the faith of Americanism, and to burn or desecrate it's flag is a simple hate crime (and property crime) in my opinion.

The reason I value the American Flag as a holy document is because I read U.S. history like it is today's newpaper. It is alive to me. I marvel over what generations of Americans had to cope with, for us to be here today, in this powerful and wealthy nation.

The American Flag is, in my eyes, a condensed history book of the United States and its people. Similar to my thinking that all "book burning or desecrating" is a sad testament to the people that do that, I feel that the American Flag functions as a similar history book (symbolically) of the nation's past.

Burning books, in my opinion, reflects hatred and fear and close-mindedness towards those that wrote the books being burned or desecrated. So too with burning or desecrating the American Flag. So, when someone thinks it is acceptable behavior to burn or desecrate the American Flag, I personally just believe those individuals don't value, like I do, the sacrifice prior generations of Americans made for us to live in this powerful and wealthy nation.

The reason I think burning or desecrating the American Flag should be against the law, and there should be "no right to burn or desecrate it" (based on the Constitution of the United States) is because I believe the American Flag is like "a house of worship without walls," and we understand that people cannot go into a Church and start to desecrate anything in a Church. You see, we Americans are congregants to the faith of Americanism, and to burn or desecrate it's flag is a simple hate crime (and property crime) in my opinion.

foofie wrote:

You see, we Americans are congregants to the faith of Americanism, and to burn or desecrate it's flag is a simple hate crime (and property crime) in my opinion.

fascinating.

foofie wrote:

You see, we Americans are congregants to the faith of Americanism, and to burn or desecrate it's flag is a simple hate crime (and property crime) in my opinion.

fascinating.

cjhsa wrote:

Anything is possible.

Did you even try to understand MM's response?

And correct/true/factual! There is a fairly new book that explains the concept that we Americans are congregants to a faith called Americanism.

dyslexia wrote:

foofie wrote:

You see, we Americans are congregants to the faith of Americanism, and to burn or desecrate it's flag is a simple hate crime (and property crime) in my opinion.

fascinating.

And correct/true/factual! There is a fairly new book that explains the concept that we Americans are congregants to a faith called Americanism. Not all Americans are othodox believers, so to speak. But, those that got this country to survive a few hundred years of difficult history were likely very religious in this sense.

ehBeth wrote:

cjhsa wrote:

Anything is possible.

Did you even try to understand MM's response?

Of course I did. He tried to respond to my hypothetical situation with the rule of law, which I infer does not apply in cases of terrorists present on U.S. soil.

JTT - go back in you cave.

cjhsa wrote:

Bullshit. Pick your side. Defend it, or not. If you won't, I cannot defend you. Despite what you might think, our soldiers do not defend your right to denegrate the U.S. flag. In fact, most of them would be happy to kick ass or worse on those that do.

And there is the flaw in your thinking.
I am a retired marine, and when I enlisted the oath I swore included the words "to defend the constitution".
That includes defending the Bill of Rights.
On the BoR is the right to freedom of speech.
As a soldier, I swore to defend the right to free speech, even if I disagree with what is being said.

To say that I wont defend someones right to denigrate the flag shows that you dont know what the military really does, or the oath we take.
To paraphrase my mom..."I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

I dont agree with many of the posters on this site, but I will never say they dont have the right to say something

As for "defending to the last man", that goes against all military tactics and against the UCMJ.
When there is no hope of winning and there is no chance of rescue, it is sound policy to surrender, especially if you have wounded.
That gets medical help for your wounded, and allows you to tie down enemy forces to guard you.

You are showing me that you have a serious lack of knowledge about how things are done.

If those are fake she should sue her plastic surgeon. Those points are not sitting way up high.

JTT - go back in you sic cave. Say hello to Osama for me and tell him I hope you both enjoy the camels in hell.