The US is a great place to be anti-American

tico, let's face it- you don't just want us to love what america is, you want us to love what people like you are turning it into- something very opposite the kind of freedom we've been talking about for 200 years.

if you think you can hide all that b.s. behind a flag, you've got worse problems than insanity. if i'm crazy, (along with millions of other americans) they do make meds for crazy. if you're just stupid, there's no hope there- sorry.

Foofie wrote:

... and about face marches.

An about face would be nice, Foofie. It would illustrate a mind that refuses to march in lockstep to the drumbeat of this incessant insanity.

JTT wrote:

Foofie wrote:

... and about face marches.

An about face would be nice, Foofie. It would illustrate a mind that refuses to march in lockstep to the drumbeat of this incessant insanity.

You're being intrusive while I'm trying to stay in step. Left, left, left, right, left.

And, don't define my flag waving. I value my flag and the country it represents.


To value it and your country is fine. To demand that all follow strict guidelines for expressing this very personal feeling is summed up perfectly by the picture Blatham supplied.

That you, and some others, can't grasp that difference has been duly noted by other here but it bears repeating. If there is freedom to worship, there must also be freedom to not worship.

And those who demand obeisance to what they think is right demean not only the ideal but also the instrument, the flag.



Just the other night on Frontline (PBS tv) there were marchers in a parade, in a Middle Eastern country, stepping on an American flag that was on the ground. It was very easy to understand the sentiment. I raise my American flag high in the air, to keep it from the feet of those marchers.

I cannot fathom how someone like JTT is allowed to continue to post here or any other US based website. Freedom of speech does not include treason.

I cannot fathom how someone like JTT is allowed to continue to post here or any other US based website. Freedom of speech does not include treason.

You know what I mean and it certainly isn't of small mind. We will defend our borders and our flag to the last man. You want to stomp on the flag, go ahead, but you better make sure I don't see you.

Ticomaya wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

Two peas in a pod.

Defend our flag to the last man?
Dude, that is some seriously funny ****. You're the guy who has threatened people on this website....American people. You wont' defend their right to free thought and free speech, but you will defend a flag to the last man?

You have some seriously f*cked up values man.

That you fail to grasp this not at all subtle distinction, is not really all that surprising considering the content of your postings.

JTT wrote:

Ticomaya wrote:

McGentrix wrote:

Two peas in a pod.

Thanks! I can think of very few better compliments.

McG, Tico, Cjsha, and the rest of you lot really do debase your own flag and the "ideals" it supposedly encompasses.

That you fail to grasp this not at all subtle distinction, is not really all that surprising considering the content of your postings.

JTT wrote:

McG, Tico, Cjsha, and the rest of you lot really do debase your own flag and the "ideals" it supposedly encompasses.

That you fail to grasp this not at all subtle distinction, is not really all that surprising considering the content of your postings.

I can see the steam coming off of that post.

cjhsa wrote:

JTT wrote:

McG, Tico, Cjsha, and the rest of you lot really do debase your own flag and the "ideals" it supposedly encompasses.

That you fail to grasp this not at all subtle distinction, is not really all that surprising considering the content of your postings.

I can see the steam coming off of that post.

I couldn't read past the glaring irony.

Just the other night on Frontline (PBS tv) there were marchers in a parade, in a Middle Eastern country, stepping on an American flag that was on the ground. It was very easy to understand the sentiment. I raise my American flag high in the air, to keep it from the feet of those marchers.

candidone1 wrote:

Defend our flag to the last man?
Dude, that is some seriously funny ****. You're the guy who has threatened people on this website....American people. You wont' defend their right to free thought and free speech, but you will defend a flag to the last man?

You have some seriously f*cked up values man.

Bullshit. Pick your side. Defend it, or not. If you won't, I cannot defend you. Despite what you might think, our soldiers do not defend your right to denegrate the U.S. flag. In fact, most of them would be happy to kick ass or worse on those that do.

cjhsa wrote:

candidone1 wrote:

Defend our flag to the last man?
Dude, that is some seriously funny ****. You're the guy who has threatened people on this website....American people. You wont' defend their right to free thought and free speech, but you will defend a flag to the last man?

You have some seriously f*cked up values man.

Bullshit. Pick your side. Defend it, or not. If you won't, I cannot defend you. Despite what you might think, our soldiers do not defend your right to denegrate the U.S. flag. In fact, most of them would be happy to kick ass or worse on those that do.

And there is the flaw in your thinking.
I am a retired marine, and when I enlisted the oath I swore included the words "to defend the constitution".
That includes defending the Bill of Rights.
On the BoR is the right to freedom of speech.
As a soldier, I swore to defend the right to free speech, even if I disagree with what is being said.

To say that I wont defend someones right to denigrate the flag shows that you dont know what the military really does, or the oath we take.
To paraphrase my mom..."I may not agree with what you say, but I will defend to the death your right to say it".

I dont agree with many of the posters on this site, but I will never say they dont have the right to say something

As for "defending to the last man", that goes against all military tactics and against the UCMJ.
When there is no hope of winning and there is no chance of rescue, it is sound policy to surrender, especially if you have wounded.
That gets medical help for your wounded, and allows you to tie down enemy forces to guard you.

You are showing me that you have a serious lack of knowledge about how things are done.