old europe wrote:ican711nm wrote:old europe wrote:ican711nm wrote:We must win and succeed in Iraq, because we Americans will suffer significant losses of our freedoms, if we do not win and succeed in Iraq.
Like what? Will the Taliban take over America and force you to grow a beard?
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list of terrorist attacks]
ican, what would you say are the most important freedoms for an American citizen? I mean, the long list you just posted seems to suggest that the only freedoms you're worried to loose is the freedom to die a natural death...
Surely you are kidding! ......... On second thought I reckon you're not kidding.
Here's what is probably more of an answer than you were expecting.
My Version of The Religious Doctrine of the Judeo-Christian Ten Commandments.
20 And God spoke all these words, saying:
2 I am the Lord thy God, who brought thee out of the land of Egypt, out of the house of bondage.
3Thou shalt have no other gods before Me.
4 Thou shalt not make unto thee a graven image, nor any manner of likeness, of anything
that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under
the earth;
5thou shall not bow down unto them , nor serve them; for I the Lord thy God am a
jealous God, visiting the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and
fourth generation of them that hate Me;
6 and showing mercy unto the thousandth generation of them that love Me and keep
My commandments.
7 Thou shalt not take the name of the Lord thy God in vain; for the Lord will not hold him
guiltless that taketh His name in vain.
8 Remember the Sabbath day, to keep it holy.
9 Six days shalt thou labor, and do all thy work;
10 but the seventh day is a sabbath unto the Lord thy God, in it thou shalt not do any
manner of work, nor thy wife, nor thy son, nor thy daughter, nor thy man-servant,
nor thy maid- servant, nor thy cattle, nor thy stranger that is within thy gates;
11 for in six days the Lord made heaven and earth, the sea, and all that in them is, and
rested on the seventh day; wherefore the Lord blessed the seventh day, and
hallowed it.
12 Honour thy father and thy mother, that thy days may be long upon the land which the
Lord thy God giveth thee.
13 Thou shalt not commit murder.
Thou shalt not commit adultery or fornication.
Thou shalt not steal.
Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor.
14 Thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's house;
thou shalt not covet thy neighbour's wife, nor his man servant, nor his maid-servant,
nor his ox, nor his ass, nor anything that is thy neighbour's.
The religious doctrine of the Declaration of Independence is derived from Judeo-Christian religious doctrine.
Quote:The Unanimous Declaration of the Thirteen United States of America
We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable rights, that among these are life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. That to secure these rights, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to effect their safety and happiness. Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience hath shown that mankind are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under absolute despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
My religious doctrine is derived from the Declaration of Independence:
I hold these truths to be self-evident, that all people are created equal, in that they are endowed by God with certain rights. Among these are
life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. To secure these rights, governments are instituted among people, deriving their just powers from the consent of the people governed. That whenever any form of government becomes destructive to these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, and to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles and organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to secure these rights.
Prudence, indeed, will dictate that governments long established should not be changed for light and transient causes; and accordingly all experience has shown that people are more disposed to suffer, while evils are sufferable, than to right themselves by abolishing the forms to which they are accustomed. But when a long train of abuses and usurpations, pursuing invariably the same object evinces a design to reduce them under despotism, it is their right, it is their duty, to throw off such government, and to provide new guards for their future security.
To secure for me my rights endowed me by God, I must possess the right to defend myself effectively against those attempting to deny me one or more of my rights. Those people who are attempting to deny me my rights, or are denying me one or more of my rights, thereby forfeit those very rights originally endowed them by God that they seek to deny me.
The endowment of my rights by God obligates me to attempt to help others secure these same rights, whenever anyone attempts to deny them these same rights.
So if you kill any or all those I love who have not denied anyone else their rights endowed by God, you will have denied them all their rights endowed by God.
