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Illegal Immigrants not a burden to health care?

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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 02:37 pm
ebrown_p wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
Lots of illegal drugs too, & I think they're organic. It's time to stop the invasion.


The invasion we need to stop is the conservatives who think they can tell us what we can and can't do in our private lives.

I wish the government would get the heck out my private life, whether that be with organic food, or what drugs it thinks I should take, or what language I want to speak or who I choose to marry.


Are you talking about illegal drugs as being your private life?
Whethere illegal drugs should be your right or not isn't the question, the point is, those drugs are illegal, as is the invasion!! You want to have drugs legal, contact your representative. Conservatives have kept drugs illegal? Hmm, why didn't your buds during their 40 years of control take care of that private matter?
Actually, I wish drugs were legal, it would stop a lot of the crime & we'd get a lot more tax $$.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 02:40 pm
Oops, I regretted (and thus deleted) that post after I reread it because it is a digression from the topic that I care about.

I apologize for any inconvenience, but I don't want to continue on this line.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 02:48 pm
Illegal invasion is the topic, & that entails a lot of problems, not just health care. But, drug addiction also adds to our health care costs.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 03:59 pm
I don't understand why conservatives need to make every issue into a war.

Let's see.. we have the "War on Terror(tm)", and the "War on Drugs(tm)".

You want to keep people from marrying those they love and you say you are "Defending Marriage". And people want to be able to say "Happy Hannukah" and it is a "war on Christmas".

Now you want to say people taking care of our kids, picking our lettuce and serving us hamburgers is an "invasion"?

Do you know there is a real war going on right now with thousands of deaths of young US soldiers, and billions of dollars?

This grandstanding is a bit tiresome.
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Baldimo
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:04 pm
ebrown_p wrote:
I don't understand why conservatives need to make every issue into a war.

Let's see.. we have the "War on Terror(tm)", and the "War on Drugs(tm)".

You want to keep people from marrying those they love and you say you are "Defending Marriage". And people want to be able to say "Happy Hannukah" and it is a "war on Christmas".

Now you want to say people taking care of our kids, picking our lettuce and serving us hamburgers is an "invasion"?

Do you know there is a real war going on right now with thousands of deaths of young US soldiers, and billions of dollars?

This grandstanding is a bit tiresome.


How about the libs "War on poverty"?
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:06 pm
Baldimo wrote:
ebrown_p wrote:
I don't understand why conservatives need to make every issue into a war.

Let's see.. we have the "War on Terror(tm)", and the "War on Drugs(tm)".

You want to keep people from marrying those they love and you say you are "Defending Marriage". And people want to be able to say "Happy Hannukah" and it is a "war on Christmas".

Now you want to say people taking care of our kids, picking our lettuce and serving us hamburgers is an "invasion"?

Do you know there is a real war going on right now with thousands of deaths of young US soldiers, and billions of dollars?

This grandstanding is a bit tiresome.


How about the libs "War on poverty"?


& literally TRILLIONS OF $$ later, there's still a war on poverty.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:07 pm
ebrown_p wrote:
I don't understand why conservatives need to make every issue into a war.

Let's see.. we have the "War on Terror(tm)", and the "War on Drugs(tm)".

You want to keep people from marrying those they love and you say you are "Defending Marriage". And people want to be able to say "Happy Hannukah" and it is a "war on Christmas".

Now you want to say people taking care of our kids, picking our lettuce and serving us hamburgers is an "invasion"?

Do you know there is a real war going on right now with thousands of deaths of young US soldiers, and billions of dollars?

This grandstanding is a bit tiresome.


If 20,000,000 Chinese or Iranians were to sneak across our borders, what would you call it? Again, NOT ALL coming across those borders are mexicans.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:18 pm
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If 20,000,000 Chinese or Iranians were to sneak across our borders, what would you call it? Again, NOT ALL coming across those borders are mexicans.


Can Chinese or Iranians do landscaping?
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 04:25 pm
ebrown_p wrote:
Quote:

If 20,000,000 Chinese or Iranians were to sneak across our borders, what would you call it? Again, NOT ALL coming across those borders are mexicans.


Can Chinese or Iranians do landscaping?


Ok, that's funny. Laughing
I don't care if they're rocket scientists, they're still illegal.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:04 pm
LSM wrote: I don't care if they're rocket scientists, they're still illegal.

Wrong: if they're rocket scientists, the US will make them legal.
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LoneStarMadam
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:15 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
LSM wrote: I don't care if they're rocket scientists, they're still illegal.

Wrong: if they're rocket scientists, the US will make them legal.

Wrong, UNTIL the us makes them legal, they're illegal.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:17 pm
LoneStarMadam wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
LSM wrote: I don't care if they're rocket scientists, they're still illegal.

Wrong: if they're rocket scientists, the US will make them legal.

Wrong, UNTIL the us makes them legal, they're illegal.

So the laws about legal immigration are aribrary and capricious?
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hamburger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:27 pm
"So the laws about legal immigration are aribrary and capricious? '

now , now dys ! why would you say such a thing Rolling Eyes ?
i'm sure you have never seen ANY government act arbitrary and capricious - have you ?
(why do you have do use such big words - confuses my keyboard :wink: ).
hbg
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:50 pm
Never! They'll not only make them legal as soon as they learn they're a rocket scientist, but they'll pay them to stay.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:50 pm
dyslexia wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
LSM wrote: I don't care if they're rocket scientists, they're still illegal.

Wrong: if they're rocket scientists, the US will make them legal.

Wrong, UNTIL the us makes them legal, they're illegal.

So the laws about legal immigration are aribrary and capricious?


What hbg said. Government is more or less the practical definition of capricious and arbitrary. As for making them legal, no. Not if they enter the country without our consent.
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:51 pm
dyslexia wrote:
LoneStarMadam wrote:
cicerone imposter wrote:
LSM wrote: I don't care if they're rocket scientists, they're still illegal.

Wrong: if they're rocket scientists, the US will make them legal.

Wrong, UNTIL the us makes them legal, they're illegal.

So the laws about legal immigration are aribrary and capricious?


The solution to make everyone happy seems obvious.

We need is a path to citizenship for immigrants who are living and working here.

This would solve the problem of illegality (as Madam points out) and be compassionate enough since it woudn't break up families or disrupt the lives of people I care about (who don't happen to be rocket scientists but are decent people I am quite fond of).
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ebrown p
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:53 pm
They have my consent Roger, and they have the tacit consent of small businesses who hire them, and consumers who benefit from their being here.

The "official" consent will come from our elected officials (who happen to now be more Democrats than before). I have let my elected officials know that I vote for a path to citizenship.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:54 pm
I quite agree e_brown, but you already knew that.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:57 pm
Our politicians on both sides of the aisle have sold out to illegals. I'd like to put all of 'em on an Amtrak to Mexico City. National Guard troops should be used to round up illegals at their "immigration" rallies, then make the illegals walk back across the border. Enough already. Mexicans are not compassionate towards Americans, not even towards their own expats. Why should we be? Enough already.
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roger
 
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Reply Mon 20 Nov, 2006 06:57 pm
Dang crossposting, anyway. I was agreeing on the path to citizenship, of course.

As to someone's consent, notice I said without our knowledge, and avoided the word consent.
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