By the way, illegals are thieves. I don't care how hard they work or how honest they claim to be, they are thieves, plain and simple. Explain to me eb how they aren't since they are stealing the right to immigrate.
Enough already.
By that logic, isn't everyone who breaks any law a thief?
Did I, for a completely hypothetical example, steal the right to drink beer before I was 21?
Also CJ your statement that "Politicians have sold out to illegals" is clearly false.
Politicians react to the will of American citizens who put them into power, not to immigrants who have no political power.
You might say "Politicians have sold out to voters"... unfortunately in truth, your side of American citizens is at loggerheads with my side of American citizens and neither of us is making much headway.
It seems it is in the interest of both poltical parties to keep playing games while doing nothing. I hope this changes with the new Congress.
You broke the law. Maybe you didn't get caught, but you did. And no, not every lawbreaker is a thief.
Illegals are thieves, all of them third strikers IMO by the time they take a job. They stole their way across the border, they steal someones identity, and then they steal someone's job. That's three. Not to mention the healthcare they steal, the american tax dollars they steal when they drive down the road in cheap uninsured junkers... Enough already.
OK, and with that, I bid you adios.
Correct. The term is
locally and I gave you a link. Why would anything grown in the tropics be relevant? That's certainly not local and that's not what I purchase.
You have tried to imply that I can't possibly know where my fruits and vegetables are from, a false statement, but now it would appear you're trying some other angle.
No angle; that you buy all your produce from US organic farms is your choice. You set your own limits - which you have a right to do, but limits your choices. That is your right!
There's a little thing called "North American Union", maybe if more people read that (it can be found on gov't commerce dept) they MIGHT start to wake up. If this comes to pass, we'' be like the EU.
Walter Hinteler wrote:cicerone imposter wrote:I think it may take a while for other countries to meet our organic certification standards.
Really? As far as I know, they even don't reach the really low EU-standards (most [old] EU-countries have higher national standards than by EU-law - however, this might change
).
Quote:From the perspective of many EU countries, organic agriculture delivers environmental and social benefits to society, and is regarded as an infant industry requiring support until it is able to compete in established markets. This view of organic farming as a provider of public goods affords an economic rationale for government intervention in the market.
The U.S. Government's approach, while acknowledging organic agriculture's positive impact on environmental quality, treats the organic sector primarily as an expanding market opportunity for producers and regards organic food as a differentiated product available to consumers.
[...]
... in 2003, the EU had over five times the amount of organic farmland as the U.S., while the U.S. had three times as much total agricultural land.
source:
Amber Waves - U.S. Department of Agriculture
That was my quote WH, and when you consider the topic here, I hope it's clearer what areas I had in mind when I made that statement. It was in regard to our neighbors south of the border. I would never think to compare U.S. standards to those of Europe. Europe wins, no contest, and in fact it's believed that in some industries the U.S. market will not be competitive unless and until it meets those european standards.
There's already a plan to build I-35 straight on up into Canada from the Tx border. Rep. Tancredo (R-Co0 has said this president does not want borders on the Mexico/US or US/Canada. We have a lot of accidents in San Antonio on I-35 already with the Mexican trucks hauling whatever, they are not required the same safety features on their vehicles as we are. Bald tires, beclching crap, unlicensed drivers, no insurance. It's a mess, a dangerous mess.
cjhsa wrote:You broke the law.
And the government knows they're paperwork is not complete, but still takes their taxes. What does that make the US government? Or is OK for the US government to steal?
LoneStarMadam wrote:There's already a plan to build I-35 straight on up into Canada from the Tx border. Rep. Tancredo (R-Co0 has said this president does not want borders on the Mexico/US or US/Canada. We have a lot of accidents in San Antonio on I-35 already with the Mexican trucks hauling whatever, they are not required the same safety features on their vehicles as we are. Bald tires, beclching crap, unlicensed drivers, no insurance. It's a mess, a dangerous mess.
Tancredo is my favorite politician. He has pretty near promised to make a presidential run. I hope he wins against McCain and I will probably vote for him (in the primary that is).
Tancredo is an embarrassment to the state of colorado, even the republican govenor and republican senator went on record apologizing for his racist behavior.
Come on Dys,
Tell me you wouldn't want to see Tancredo as the Republican nominee for the 2008 presidential race.
dyslexia wrote:Tancredo is an embarrassment to the state of colorado, even the republican govenor and republican senator went on record apologizing for his racist behavior.
Co has a lot more to be embarrassed about than Tacredo. A stupid DA, an anti-American professor, Tancredo is upholding the law of the land. Is that why you don't like him?
Wilso wrote:cjhsa wrote:You broke the law.
And the government knows they're paperwork is not complete, but still takes their taxes. What does that make the US government? Or is OK for the US government to steal?
You are taking this too broadly, Wilso. The only illegals paying federal income and social security taxes are those working under counterfeit documents. Tax deductions are made through payroll, as is required. It's not the governments fault there is no social security account for the money to be applied to. And who knows? Maybe someday, they will actually get a valid ss account and all that money will be just waiting to be applied. So far as income tax deductions go, it's no more stealing than when they take it from me. I'm legal, by the way.
LoneStarMadam wrote:Tancredo is upholding the law of the land.
He most certainly only hired the two illegal immigrants to remodel his basement due to his Christian altruism.
