well, cold logic nor facts rarely mean much to a conservative, and Timbuktu you are fast approaching masseggetto- proportions in spamming, but at least you like dogs. and that is too dear to my heart to offend you further I went through this stuff ad nasuem with occom bill 19 months ago and still the A2K Right wing air bags bray like blood hounds as they ever do when they sniff Clinton's cock.
btw ashman, I am not one more liberal democrat who wants Chinese partcipation in NK armament talks because I don't trust the Chinese and it hands one more chit to them to use for trade talks, yuan devaluation talks Tawinese reunification talks, or central Asian oil talks. but thanks to Bush that's right now where it puts them. The NKs want the US to negitioate a treaty not to make their rumble bounce and or remove their power elite. Its purely a defensive action taken by paranoid monsters. They don't fear that from China, the Japanese, SKs, or Russians and they built that nuke to test to get the US to the negotiation table.
but lost in the fog of ideological finger pointing that makes "Who lost China" a parlor game is what that bomb was made of and who attempted to prevent the production of the stuff that makes it go "BOOM." Naturally the knee jerks, as usual from the Right don't even know their facts. So let us begin:
With a source of record and work back logically to who did what to let the NKs manufacture its weapons grade.....frigging PLUTONIUM.
North Korean Fuel Identified as Plutonium
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/10/17/world/asia/17diplo.html?_r=1&hp&ex=1161057600&en=50f818a4c23ca12c&ei=5059&partner=AOL&oref=login
And work back logically to who did what to let the NKs let manufacture its bomb.
Quote:American intelligence agencies have concluded that North Korea's test explosion last week was powered by plutonium that North Korea harvested from its small nuclear reactor, according to officials who have reviewed the results of atmospheric sampling since the blast.
Guess who turned his back on the monitoring program that froze Pyongyang's plutonium production for almost a decade?
least we forget the CIA testified in front of Congress in 1994 that the NKs had produced enough plutonium to make several bombs DURING George Bush (the Greater's presidency), before Bill Clinton took office in 1993.
Quote:Nuclear experts said that the use of plutonium to make the bomb was important because it suggested that North Korea probably had only one nuclear program mature enough to produce weapons.
"This is good news because we have a reasonably good idea of how much plutonium they have made," said Siegfried S. Hecker, the former chief of the Los Alamos National Laboratory and now a visiting professor at Stanford University. Mr. Hecker, who has visited North Korea and is one of the few foreigners to have seen parts of its nuclear infrastructure, said that it was his guess that "they tried to test a reasonably sophisticated device, and they had trouble imploding it properly."
The supply of plutonium materials is known from the days when international inspectors kept tabs on the fuel rods in the North's reactor, and intelligence analysts estimate that North Korea has enough material to make 6 to 10 plutonium bombs.
Politically, the results of the test may revive last week's finger-pointing about who is more responsible for the Korean test: Bill Clinton or President Bush
Quote:As president, Mr. Clinton negotiated a deal that froze the production and weaponization of North Korea's plutonium, but intelligence agencies later determined that North Korea began its secret uranium program under his watch. The plutonium that North Korea exploded was produced, according to intelligence estimates, either during the administration of the first President Bush or after 2003, when the North Koreans threw out international inspectors and began reprocessing spent nuclear fuel the inspectors had kept under seal.
Unlike the Clinton administration in 1994, the current Bush administration chose not to threaten to destroy North Korea's fuel and nuclear reprocessing facilities if they tried to make weapons.
So Clinton stopped the uranium production by negotiation alongside Jimmy Carter, threatened to bomb the plutonium production. Now what was left from Bush's dad's 1989-1993 term was made into bombs along any plutonium produced by Bush from 2003 and the NKS can't even make a uranium bomb now. Because Clinton stopped it, but Bush would not even threaten to do what Clinton dared; to bomb the plutonium production. So much for "Clinton and Carter be weak," Bush be strong" you incessant Right Wing Bozos puke out.
Quote:"There was a brief window to catch this plutonium before it was made into bomb fuel. It's gone. It's out of the barn now."
That's right you Kiddie Korps of the American Bund, opps, Bush fucked it up.
And the real reason he did it was regardless of whatever Clinton did, Bush for ideological reasons, would do the reverse.
and like blind lemming you support this pimple of a man, Bush.
Quote:After a week of some lingering doubt about whether the test had indeed been a nuclear detonation, the office of John D. Negroponte, director of national intelligence, confirmed that much in a statement issued Monday.
and the best part is that creepoid who is a darling to the Right Wing mouth breathers shoved his whole God damn leg into his mouth up to his hip socket with this ditty....
" I would remind Senator Clinton and other Democrats critical of Bush administration policies that the framework agreement her husband's administration negotiated was a failure."
--John McCain, October 10th
Opps. Sorry Johnny boy that would be George Bush's failure. You twit.
