Brand X wrote:Turns out Kim Jong Il did not apologize for the test, China now says that report was wrong.
I wondered about that apology. It didn't seem to fit the behavior we see from Kim.
N. Korea Agrees to Return to Six-Party Nuke Talks
N. Korea Agrees to Return to Six-Party Nuke Talks
The Associated Press
Tuesday 31 October 2006
Beijing, China - North Korea agreed Tuesday to rejoin six-nation nuclear disarmament talks in a surprise diplomatic breakthrough three weeks after the communist regime conducted its first known atomic test, the Chinese government said.
A U.S. envoy said the talks could resume as early as November if all six parties can agree on a date. But Japan said it cannot accept North Korea's return to the talks unless the regime first renounces its nuclear weapons.
While Japan welcomed the prospect of a new round of talks, it "does not intend to accept North Korea's return to the talks on the premise that it possess nuclear weapons," public broadcaster NHK quoted Foreign Minister Taro Aso as saying.
A resumption of talks "is conditional on North Korea not possessing nuclear weapons," Aso was quoted as saying.
U.S. Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill said Tuesday that six-party talks on North Korea's nuclear program could resume as early as November or December.
Hill said the exact date was up to all six nations participating - the U.S., the two Koreas, Japan, China and Russia.
"We believe it will be in November or possibly in December," he told a news conference at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing.
The Chinese Foreign Ministry said earlier Tuesday that the chief envoys to the negotiations from China, North Korea and the United States held an informal meeting in Beijing and agreed to resume six-nation talks.
South Korea and Russia welcomed North Korea's agreement to return to the talks.
"The government hopes that the six-party talks will resume at an early date as agreed and that an agreement will be reached on how to implement" a prior accord under which Pyongyang pledged to abandon its nuclear program, South Korea's Foreign Ministry spokesman Choo Kyu-ho said.
Russia's Deputy Foreign Minister Alexander Alexeyev said Moscow views North Korea's decision as "extremely positive," ITAR-Tass and Interfax news agencies reported. "We sincerely hope they will resume shortly," said Alexeyev, who will continue leading Russian delegation in the talks.
Calls to the North Korean Embassy in Beijing went unanswered.
The agreement is one of the first signs of easing tensions since North Korea conducted the underground detonation on October 9, defying warnings from both the United States and Japan, and its staunchest ally, China.
If move also marks a diplomatic victory for Beijing, which in the wake of the test had argued against punishing North Korea too harshly, in order to leave open a path for diplomacy.
Seoul also has been trying to strike a delicate balance in punishing the North for its nuclear test; seeking to avoid aggravating its volatile neighbor while imposing sanctions according to an unanimous U.N. Security Council resolution.
The U.N. resolution calls for a ban on the sale of major arms to Pyongyang and inspection of cargo entering and leaving the country. It also calls for the freezing of assets of businesses supplying North Korea's nuclear and ballistic weapons programs, as well as restrictions on sales of luxury goods and travel bans on North Korean officials.
The six-nation arms talks were last held in November 2005, where no progress was made on implementing the September 2005 agreement where the North pledged to abandon its nuclear program in exchange for security guarantees and aid.
Just after that agreement, the North had demanded a nuclear reactor for power - a request that was quickly rejected by the other sides at the talks.
Looks like the Bush policy is working.
sorry is this the nuke iran thread or the nuke korea thread? Bush will be nuking somewhere by mistake before long.
Steve 41oo wrote:sorry is this the nuke iran thread or the nuke korea thread? Bush will be nuking somewhere by mistake before long.
Care to bet on this?
Didnt the dems also say that Bush would institute a draftr after the '04 elections?
That hasnt happened either,has it?
McGentrix wrote:Looks like the Bush policy is working.
The Americans backed down in the face of the dprk atomic bomb, and started talking directly to the Koreans. Meanwhile the Iranians note what happens once you get atomic weapons. Is that Bush's policy?
Steve 41oo wrote:The Americans backed down in the face of the dprk atomic bomb, and started talking directly to the Koreans.
I missed that headline. I understood NK was returning to 6 party talks, not the 2 party talks it coveted. Do you know something I don't, or are you just imagining things again?
Quote:
FAT GERMAN RABBITS TO FEED POOR
Monster Bunnies For North Korea
By David Crossland
An east German pensioner who breeds rabbits the size of dogs has been asked by North Korea to help set up a big bunny farm to alleviate food shortages in the communist country. Now journalists and rabbit gourmets from around the world are thumping at his door.
It all started when Karl Szmolinsky won a prize for breeding Germany's largest rabbit, a friendly-looking 10.5 kilogram "German Gray Giant" called Robert, in February 2006.
Images of the chubby monster went around the world and reached the reclusive communist state of North Korea, a country of 23 million which according to the United Nations Food Programme suffers widespread food shortages and where many people "struggle to feed themselves on a diet critically deficient in protein, fats and micronutrients."
Szmolinsky, 67, from the eastern town of Eberswalde near Berlin, recalls how the North Korean embassy approached his regional breeding federation and enquired whether it might be willing to sell some rabbits to set up a breeding farm in North Korea. He was the natural choice for the job.
Each of his rabbits produces around seven kilograms of meat, says Szmolinsky, who was so keen to help alleviate hunger in the impoverished country that he made the North Koreans a special price -- 80 per rabbit instead of the usual 200 to 250.
"They'll be used to help feed the population," Szmolinsky told SPIEGEL ONLINE. "I've sent them 12 rabbits so far, they're in a petting zoo for now. I'll be travelling to North Korea in April to advise them on how to set up a breeding farm. A delegation was here and I've already given them a book of tips."
Greedy Rabbits
Szmolinsky knows what he's talking about. He has been breeding rabbits for 47 years. The 12 bunnies he sent can produce 60 babies a year -- if the North Koreans find enough food to feed them properly. "I feed them everything -- grain, carrots, a lot of vegetables. At the moment they're getting kale," said Szmolinsky.
"One rabbit provides a filling meal for eight people. There are a variety of recipes such as rabbit leg or rabbit roulade. No one buys rabbit fur anymore though, I just throw that in the bin," says Szmolinsky with chilling dispassion.
He breeds between 60 and 80 rabbits per year and manages to stay emotionally detached enough to send the furry, innocent-looking, huge-eared creatures to slaughter. Asked if he has any pet bunnies he could never part with, he said: "You can't hang on to them, if you did you wouldn't be able to breed them."
Szmolinsky's North Korean connection has attracted media attention from around the world, and he seems to be getting tired of it. "I'm getting ambushed by camera crews," he said, adding that he was booked up with interview appointments for days. "There's a Japanese crew flying in from Paris later."
Potential Chinese buyers have also expressed an interest. Szmolinsky doesn't know how many more rabbits he will be sending to North Korea and said he definitely wouldn't be increasing his own production to satisfy growing demand from Asia.
"I'm not increasing production and I'm not taking any more orders after this. They cost a lot to feed," he said.
Monster Bunnies For North Korea
But can the impoverished country feed such huge rabbits?
The Congressional Research Service has updated it's informations:
"North Korean Ballistic Missile Threat to the United States"
THE MONSTER RABBITS
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a/t german news repots these monster rabboits are a poor choice for getting meat cheaply . the report states that their meat production is much lower than that of ordinary rabbits - they require MORE food per pound of meat than ordinary rabbits !
we had some of those 'monster rabbits' during the war . from what i recall they were really just kept because they were somewhat unsual - i believe they were called :blue belgians" .
i feel sorry for the hungry north-koreans who are hoping to get a fat rabbit into the pot quickly .
we can (and do) buy rabbit in our local supermarket - they are certainly not cheap - about the price of a good steak - certainly more expensive than pork or chicken .
i would think that chickens would be a better choice to get meat quickly - and you even get the eggs upfront !
hbg
monster flemish , attains weight of 13-14 pounds
Quote:New Doubts On Nuclear Efforts by North Korea
U.S. Less Certain of Uranium Program
By Glenn Kessler
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 1, 2007; Page A01
The Bush administration is backing away from its long-held assertions that North Korea has an active clandestine program to enrich uranium, leading some experts to believe that the original U.S. intelligence that started the crisis over Pyongyang's nuclear ambitions may have been flawed.
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The accusation about the alleged uranium program backfired, sparking a series of events that ultimately led to North Korea's first nuclear test -- using another material, plutonium -- nearly five months ago.
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Thank God GWBush stood up and protected the US from the North Koreans and their evil plans while using suspect intelligence.
If this administration believes that the DPRK can be trusted, there may actually be some truth to the shrill accusations of utter stupidity.
Never, ever, trust Kim Jong-Il's regime. If the DPRK claimed it was raining outside, you should go look and be certain that he hasn't a regiment out there with hoses spraying the windows.
A far as I read the reports, some experts say the data that led to crisis are mistaken.
Quote:President Bush told a news conference that [2002] November: "We discovered that contrary to an agreement they had with the United States, they're enriching uranium, with a desire of developing a weapon."
Quote:Meanwhile, Assistant Secretary of State Christopher Hill, the chief negotiator for disarmament talks, last week told a conference in Washington that it is unclear if North Korea ever mastered the production techniques necessary for such a program.
If "Iraq" is a measure, it will last some years and then ... ...
Which doesn't mean at all that I would trust Kim Jong-Il's regime a lot.
The story is about how the US declared that the DPRK had hoses spraying the windows when it was actually raining.