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Foley Quits Amid Allegations of Email Sex Scandal

 
 
parados
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2006 11:43 am
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, Illinois and especially Chicago are the most goverment by the government to control the people places in the U.S.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/92811,CST-NWS-bside12.article


It's nice to see you want the terrorists to win cj.


Laughing
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wandeljw
 
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Reply Fri 13 Oct, 2006 01:45 pm
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Ethics panel hears from page overseer
(Associated Press, October 13, 2006)

The chief congressional overseer of House pages, who says he tried to stop ex-Rep. Mark Foley from e-mailing a Louisiana page in late 2005, was questioned Friday by House investigators.

Rep. John Shimkus, R-Illinois, who testified behind closed doors, has said he kept the two other House members overseeing the pages in the dark as he confronted Foley last fall. Shimkus, chairman of the House Page Board, said he was following the wishes of the boy's parents by not telling the other two lawmakers who oversee the high school page program.

A four-member ethics investigating panel, operating in closed session, is hearing key witnesses with knowledge of how Republicans handled several alarms raised about Foley's conduct during the past five years. The Florida Republican resigned September 29 after he was confronted with sexually explicit instant messages sent to former male pages.

Foley's one-time chief of staff testified before the investigative panel for nearly five hours Thursday. Kirk Fordham has said publicly that he raised alarms with House Speaker Dennis Hastert's top aide nearly three years ago.

Fordham would not comment on his testimony. His extensive knowledge of Foley's actions include the Florida Republican's attempt to enter the page dorm while drunk several years ago, one of the events that triggered several alarms raised by Fordham with House officials, according to a source familiar with Fordham's actions and knowledge.

Hastert, R-Illinois, has said he learned of inappropriate approaches by Foley in late September and his aides found out in the fall of 2005. Hastert's chief of staff, Scott Palmer, has denied that Fordham contacted him at least three years ago, contradicting Fordham and creating one of the major conflicts the committee must resolve.

Hastert spokesman Ron Bonjean said after Fordham's testimony: "The ethics committee is investigating this matter, and we are confident in its ability to determine the real facts. The speaker has said that any person who is found guilty of improper conduct involving sexual contact or communication with a page should immediately resign, be fired, or be subjected to a vote of expulsion."

Fordham has made several public statements on his actions and has been questioned by the FBI.

The Page Board consists of three lawmakers and two House officers who set policy for the program that brings teenagers to Congress to attend school and perform errands in the chamber during sessions. The board does not, however, provide daily supervision of the pages, leaving that to House staff members.

Shimkus' office said that he and then-House clerk Jeff Trandahl -- who also was on the board -- confronted Foley in his office last fall after hearing from Hastert's aides about the overly friendly e-mail to the former Louisiana page. Shimkus said he told Foley to cease all contact with the teenager.

The uninformed members of the page board were Rep. Dale Kildee, D-Michigan, and Rep. Shelley Moore Capito, R-West Virginia.

"I think Congressman Shimkus acted in an expedited manner to find out what happened," while respecting the wishes of the family, Hastert said in support of Shimkus' decision to keep the two other lawmakers out of the loop.
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MarionT
 
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Reply Mon 16 Oct, 2006 11:38 pm
Why--that's terrible. But I heard that before Foley resigned, he was desperately trying to change himself into a Democrat because he was sure he would have been able to stay in the House of Representatives.His fellow gay did it. Why not Foley? But his colleague was Democrat and that made all of the difference, Why his buddy, Studds, not only sent messages to an underage male page, he had "consensual" sex with him and YET WAS RE-ELECTED. But it must be noted that his re-election happened in Massachusetts. Even Scumbag Ted Kennedy got re-elected there after he allowed Kopechnie to drown in Chappaquiddick Bay.

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BOSTON, Oct. 15, 2006
By JAY LINDSAY Associated Press Writer
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(AP) Former Rep. Gerry Studds, who became the first openly gay member of Congress when his homosexuality was exposed during a teenage page sex scandal, died early Saturday. He was 69.

Studds died at Boston Medical Center several days after he collapsed while walking his dog, his husband said. Doctors determined his loss of consciousness was due to a blood clot in his lung, Dean Hara said.

Studds regained consciousness and seemed to be improving, but his condition deteriorated Friday because of a second blood clot. The origin of the second clot was not immediately determined, said Hara, who married Studds shortly after same-sex marriage was legalized in Massachusetts in 2004.

Hara said Studds gave courage to gay people by winning re-election after publicly acknowledging his homosexuality.

"He gave people of his generation, of my generation, of future generations, the courage to do whatever they wanted to do," said Hara, 49.

Studds was first elected in 1972 and represented Cape Cod and the Islands, New Bedford, and the South Shore for 12 Congressional terms. He retired from Congress in 1997.

In his early career, Studds was known for opposing the Vietnam War and military intervention in Central America. Studds later became an advocate for a stronger federal response to the AIDS crisis and was among the first members of Congress to endorse lifting the ban on gays serving in the military.

In 1983, Studds acknowledged his homosexuality after a 27-year-old man disclosed that he and Studds had had a sexual relationship a decade earlier when the man was a teenage congressional page.

The House of Representatives censured Studds, who then went home to face his constituents in a series of public meetings.

At the time, Studds called the relationship with the teenage page, which included a trip to Europe, "a very serious error in judgment." But he did not apologize and defended the relationship as a consensual relationship with a young adult. The former page later appeared publicly with Studds in support of him.

The scandal recently resurfaced when Rep. Mark Foley, R-Fla., resigned after exchanging sexually explicit instant messages with a page. Republicans accused Democrats of hypocrisy for savaging Foley while saying little about Studds at that time.

Hara said Studds was never ashamed of the relationship with the page.

"This young man knew what he was doing," Hara said. "He was at (Studds') side."

Studds told his colleagues in a speech on the floor of the House that everyone faces a daily challenge of balancing public and private lives.

"These challenges are made substantially more complex when one is, as am I, both an elected public official and gay," Studds said at the time.

In Congress, Studds was an outspoken advocate for the fishing industry and was hailed by his constituents for his work establishing a limit for foreign fishing vessels 200 miles from the coast. After leaving Congress, he became a lobbyist for the fishing industry and environmental causes.

"His work on behalf of our fishing industry and the protection of our waters has guided the fishing industry into the future and ensured that generations to come will have the opportunity to love and learn from the sea," Sen. Edward Kennedy, D-Mass., said in a statement. "He was a steward of the oceans."

In 1996, Congress named the 842-square-mile Gerry E. Studds Stellwagen Bank National Marine Sanctuary after him in recognition of his work protecting the marine environment.

In addition to Hara, Studds is survived by a brother, a sister and four nephews.
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 08:13 am
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, Illinois and especially Chicago are the most goverment by the government to control the people places in the U.S.

Could someone translate this sentence into English?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 08:21 am
joefromchicago wrote:

Could someone translate this sentence into English?




cjhsa on another thread wrote:
I'm beginning to think we all need an English lesson or three. It is very hard to tell what the author may be referring to.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 09:43 am
parados wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, Illinois and especially Chicago are the most goverment by the government to control the people places in the U.S.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/92811,CST-NWS-bside12.article


It's nice to see you want the terrorists to win cj.


Laughing


What the hell is that supposed to mean? You mean if they got control of all the cameras so they could easily spot soft targets?

London is called the "big brother city" and all that didn't stop the bombings there.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 09:44 am
joefromchicago wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, Illinois and especially Chicago are the most goverment by the government to control the people places in the U.S.

Could someone translate this sentence into English?


Sure. Chicago sucks. How's that?
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Advocate
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 10:24 am
The right, bringing in Studds and Kennedy, dredges up ancient history.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 01:12 pm
It's easier to rewrite history when you've convinced everyone, especially the media, that history only spans 50 years. I mean, if it isn't on video, it can't be history, right?
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joefromchicago
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 01:41 pm
cjhsa wrote:
joefromchicago wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, Illinois and especially Chicago are the most goverment by the government to control the people places in the U.S.

Could someone translate this sentence into English?


Sure. Chicago sucks. How's that?

That's fine. See, you do much better when you stick to one-syllable words, cjhsa. That's your true métier.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Tue 17 Oct, 2006 01:56 pm
I thought that would be more appropriate for your reading level! I'm glad it worked out.
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parados
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 07:05 am
cjhsa wrote:
parados wrote:
cjhsa wrote:
Yes, Illinois and especially Chicago are the most goverment by the government to control the people places in the U.S.

http://www.suntimes.com/news/metro/92811,CST-NWS-bside12.article


It's nice to see you want the terrorists to win cj.


Laughing


What the hell is that supposed to mean? You mean if they got control of all the cameras so they could easily spot soft targets?

London is called the "big brother city" and all that didn't stop the bombings there.


If you are against the government watching its citizens then you are for the terrorists. Pretty simple "Bush speak" there. I was sure you would understand it.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:37 pm
Advocate wrote:
The right, bringing in Studds and Kennedy, dredges up ancient history.


Ancient history,but factually correct.

Why didnt the dems demand the resignations of Studds or Kennedy?
Why havent the dems demanded the resignation of Jefferson from Louisiana,after he got caught with $90,000 in bribe money in his freezer?

Shouldnt the dems lead by example if they truly want to lead?
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:40 pm
Mysteryman:

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Shouldnt the dems lead by example if they truly want to lead?


No irony in this statement. Nope, not a wisp.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:46 pm
mysteryman wrote:
Shouldnt the dems lead by example if they truly want to lead?


Wouldn't it be smarter to follow the Republican's generally successful example?

Just a thought.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:47 pm
ehBeth wrote:
mysteryman wrote:
Shouldnt the dems lead by example if they truly want to lead?


Wouldn't it be smarter to follow the Republican's generally successful example?

Just a thought.


Then you admit that the repubs are more successful then the dems because they are smarter then the dems?
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snood
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:48 pm
Yeah, that's what she meant. that's the ticket.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:49 pm
Good effort, mm, but you're in the wrong game.
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ehBeth
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:49 pm
You do get 2 bonus points for making me laugh.
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mysteryman
 
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Reply Wed 18 Oct, 2006 02:54 pm
ehBeth wrote:
Good effort, mm, but you're in the wrong game.


Then please explain what you meant about the repubs being more successful.

There are several different ways that statement could be taken.
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