Bill Clinton Takes On Fox News

okie, BS. Clinton is far from my favorite Politician but still credit should be given where it's due. He did try to take measures on bin Laden that were thwarted by Republicans in Congress. Also the FBI and CIA were reluctant to even tie bin Laden in with attacks on the Embassy and the Cole. You cant revise that history just as Condi cant revise the history of warnings from Clinton and Sandy Berger. She has lied again as the link on the memo I posted shows. Also you say "About the only thing he ever accomplished in office that amounted to a hill of beans was welfare reform", which is absurd. His success in Northern Ireland may not mean much to you but it was a great achievement and very important. He succeeded with Arafat and bin Laden and only the assassination of Rabin prevented a huge gain there. He reunited Korean families who had been seperated for 50 years and Bushie smashed those gains to smitherines with his heavy handed bully approach. Clinton left a surplus and that too has been destroyed. Basically most Americans know they were very much better off in pre-Bushie World. It's your denials of reality and history that dont amount to a hill of beans. As Bushie himself said he felt "no sense of urgency" about bin Laden and al qaeda before 911 and with all the warnings he received including those from Clinton Bushie is at least guilty of criminal negligence.

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Well, now that Wallace has crossed Billy, he just might end up being found with a "self-inflicted" gunshot wound. It's been known to happen to people who get in Clinton's way.

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as opposed to those who get in bushs' sights , who end up dead in the desert and shipped home in a box.

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Bill's little frothing at the mouth episode is perfect ammo to get more R's elected in November.

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cjhsa wrote:

Bill's little frothing at the mouth episode is perfect ammo to get more R's elected in November.

There is no issue of getting more R's elected in november, the only open issue is how many R's will lose seats.

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Really? And what planet did you say you live on?

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Funny how conservatives pride themselves for "standing up" to any threat that comes their way, but when a former president stands up for himself, his presidency and his record, the same conservatives excoriate him.
Clinton was in a lose lose with Wallace.
Stand up and be accused of frothing at the mouth, appear defenseless and allow a partisan newsboy to have the upper hand.

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Clinton is a natural born loser-loser so that's fitting.

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Intrepid wrote:

okie wrote:
Advocate wrote:
It is amusing that Fox is now spinning the interview with Clinton so as to portray Wallace as a victim.

http://mediamatters.org/items/200609260002?src=other

Wallace asked a simple question, and Clinton set about to attack Fox and right wingers instead of answering the question. Clinton showed himself for what he is, a loser.

Did you see the same interview that I saw???

Wanna know what I would like to see? I would like to see a debate, about anything, between George Bush and Bill Clinton.

Why would you want to see that? It would be a much more fair debate if you pitted Bush against his equal...like maybe a block of wood, or a baboon or something.

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Give Bush the questions in advance and it would still be no contest.

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cjhsa wrote:

Clinton is a natural born loser-loser so that's fitting.

You obviously put a lot of thought into that.

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Bear, that was a great reply. You must be a trial lawyer.

Regarding the debate, maybe Rove could again equip Bush with a device strapped to his back.

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Re: BBB

BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:

I never voted for Bill Clinton but you have to admit he was a better president than Bush could ever pretend to be.

BBB

No, people definitely do not have to admit such an absurdity. In fact nobody with even a twingering of intelligence would believe such nonsense. Clinton was and is a disgrace and an unmitigated failure. He has continued to make a full and total mockery of democracy and the Presidency. His recent words: "...smirk on your face and you think you're so clever" was just further evidence that he is a disgrace. For a former President to behave and speak in such a childish and arrogant manner should make every last person take a few steps back and realize Clinton for the horror he is, has been, and sadly, most likely always will be.

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Re: BBB

Sturgis wrote:

BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
I never voted for Bill Clinton but you have to admit he was a better president than Bush could ever pretend to be.

BBB
No, people definitely do not have to admit such an absurdity. In fact nobody with even a twingering of intelligence would believe such nonsense. Clinton was and is a disgrace and an unmitigated failure. He has continued to make a full and total mockery of democracy and the Presidency. His recent words: "...smirk on your face and you think you're so clever" was just further evidence that he is a disgrace. For a former President to behave and speak in such a childish and arrogant manner should make every last person take a few steps back and realize Clinton for the horror he is, has been, and sadly, most likely always will be.

Yes, quite right, I never voted for Clinton because I was sick and tired of republicans in the WhiteHouse.

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Re: BBB

Sturgis wrote:

BumbleBeeBoogie wrote:
I never voted for Bill Clinton but you have to admit he was a better president than Bush could ever pretend to be.

BBB
No, people definitely do not have to admit such an absurdity. In fact nobody with even a twingering of intelligence would believe such nonsense.

Why is it nonsense? You never say, really, using facts or actual events from his administration.

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Clinton was and is a disgrace and an unmitigated failure.

What did he fail at, specifically? It seems that he was re-elected and enjoyed a very high approval rating throughout his presidency.

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He has continued to make a full and total mockery of democracy and the Presidency.

How has he mocked democracy? Even more so, how has he done so more than Bush, who actively works to remove aspects of our democracy in the name of 'protecting us?'

How has he mocked the presidency? Specifically.

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His recent words: "...smirk on your face and you think you're so clever" was just further evidence that he is a disgrace. For a former President to behave and speak in such a childish and arrogant manner should make every last person take a few steps back and realize Clinton for the horror he is, has been, and sadly, most likely always will be.

You're calling Clinton 'childish and arrogant' in comparison to Bush???@!!?

Are you out of your mind? Bush is far more arrogant than Clinton ever was, and his speech is far more childish - he can barely speak english at all.

The other day, I heard Bush say that OBL will never give up his 'war against Infidelity.' And you're telling me that Bush is less childish and arrogant than Clinton?

You have nothing but assertions, really.

Cycloptichorn

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I'd be very interested to see if Sturgis could be any more substantive than "he was a disgrace" and "he made a mockery of democracy".

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Bi-Polar Bear wrote:

as opposed to those who get in bushs' sights , who end up dead in the desert and shipped home in a box.

It'w worth repeating. Many of our soldiers are from heavily demokkkrat-infested areas like Baltimore, Detroit, and LA. They're statistically safer in Iraq than they would be at home. The one thing which correlates most strongly with danger level in American cities is demokkkrat infestation.

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Lash wrote:

I felt comfortable responding to the theme of reporters ambushing politicians and making aggressive, accusatory statements. Do you claim it was somehow worse that the other instances I describe?

I dont claim anything, because I havent actually seen the interview.

You havent seen the interview either, yet that doesnt apparently stop you from making all kinds of claims about how exactly it compared to other interviews.

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gungasnake said:

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It'w worth repeating. Many of our soldiers are from heavily demokkkrat-infested areas like Baltimore, Detroit, and LA. They're statistically safer in Iraq than they would be at home. The one thing which correlates most strongly with danger level in American cities is demokkkrat infestation

I would like to believe that you are not serious here.

Poverty and lack of opportunity drives some people into the Armed Forces. The same may incline some to vote Democratic, for obvious reasons.

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