DrewDad wrote:Atavistic wrote:What is it about Clinton that has you people swooning??? I must have missed whatever he did that was so great.
He got off on sex instead of killing people....
And he appeared to administer an American government with an Executive branch which encouraged debate between the parties in Congress. There is little or none of that now. Bills go to and through the Conference Committee without any input from the minority party. Committee hearings are held with limited or no notice in both the Senate and the House and in the Senate there had to be extraordinary means used by moderates of both parties to preserve the tradition forms of deliberative debate.
Debate in the House of Representatives today is rare, the methods employed by Tom DeLay and Newt Gringrich of securing all the votes needed to pass a bill by a vote or two are used to push through the majority party agenda without any other consideration.
Democrats, with all their warts and facial tics, don't believe being out of power means being powerless and disenfranchised, the current set of conservative authoritarian do. Democrats, this present bunch, believe that a country this size needs a broad spectrum of ideas and a strong central government to operate it, the neo-cons don't and are doing their level best to limit the Federal Government and any ideas that don't converge exactly with theirs.
Does that sound like an American government to you? It looks and sounds more like how any other one party authoritarian government would operate, more like Uzbekistan or Turkistan than the USA.
Bill Clinton, with all his moral foibles, was the last truly American President. I didn't say great, I said American. Even when he had to find a way to pass his first economic package without a single Republican vote (which lead to the first budget surpluses in twenty-five years) he was generous in confronting the GOP's lack of faith, but the GOP and George Bush spent their first nine months of their administration tearing apart any and all the work Clinton had accomplished in Energy, in Education, in Environmental law, all while ignoring the threat posed by Osama bin Laden, mostly because Clinton had said it was something to be concerned with.
Their blindness to anything not of their own making has cost this country.
We'd like our nation back again, please, and right away, there is a lot to do.
This is not a nation of blue and red states, but of States, full of people of every kind, not the fear-filled wimps the GOP need to continue their ways, but Americans, who would like to live in a democracy.
Joe(Like it was the day Bill was first elected)Nation
, an open season for more snarling by conservatives. 