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Rosie and Extremism

 
 
woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 06:15 am
Yep, another representitive of the "religion of peace" chirps in...

"Pope Benedict faces a growing chorus of demands to make an unequivocal apology for remarks seen as portraying Islam as a violent faith, despite attempts by Western leaders and churchmen to defuse the crisis.

The calls came as it emerged papal hitman Mehmet Ali Agca, who is serving a life sentence for the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II in May 1981, has written to Pope Benedict XVI from jail, warning him not to go to Turkey as planned in November in the light of his remarks.

Agca, a Turk gave his ominous warning in a letter to an Italian daily newspaper.

For many Muslims, the Pope's attempt to explain himself on Sunday did not go far enough and observers were waiting to see if he would speak about it again at his general audience at the Vatican."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367507-details/Papal+assassin+warns+Pope+Benedict+his+'life+is+in+danger'+if+he+visits+Turkey/article.do

Until the moderate Muslims forcefully condem these statements and other acts of violence, one can only look at Islam as a sham.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 06:36 am
I am amused by muslim reaction a bit. They are like trained monkees.

Say something bad about Mohammad and watch them scream and fling poo everywhere while swinging from the tire swing.

They do it everytime too.




*I had better add on the needed qualifier that I am not speaking of ALL Muslims and I understand they have guns, etc...
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 06:47 am
McGentrix wrote:
I am amused by muslim reaction a bit. They are like trained monkees.

Say something bad about Mohammad and watch them scream and fling poo everywhere while swinging from the tire swing.

They do it everytime too.




They're operating on the theory that how stupid an idea doesn't matter so long as it's THEIR stupid idea and they have the numbers, and they think they do, and they mean to colonize western countries including ours.

http://bookwormroom.wordpress.com/2006/08/29/horror-on-san-francisco-streets/


Quote:

In their drive to impose a global caliphate, Muslims will say and do anything. One cleric in Britain denounced the 9/11 attacks in front of English news TV cameras but was later seen in a video speaking to a group of Muslims and referring to the 9/11 attackers as "The magnificent 17." CAIR, the Council on American Islamic Relations, talks a sweet rose garden when it knows media eyes are upon it. Yet one of its members didn't know he was being observed by non-Muslims when he said "Islam is not in America to be equal to other religions; it is here to dominate. The Koran should be the only authority in America, and Islam the only accepted religion in the world." That statement is a treason against the Constitution of the United States.



For my own part, I can deal with everything else which has ever turned up in America, but I positively resent the practice of I-slam being legal here.
I favor the idea of banning it before it's too late.
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 07:08 am
JLNobody wrote:

Thank goodness that's not the cultural style of Christiandom, at least since the witch burnings and Inquisition. Besides American Christians have a military whose might can shock and awe Muslims far more effectively than Muslims can do with their pitiful effigies and martrys.
Face it, both sides are insane, and would do as much damage to the other side as they could (remember, I'm talking about fundies on both sides not Muslims and Christrians per se).

Again, you're implying that the American military is a direct extension of fundamentalist Christians. This is little more than a conspiracy theory.
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 07:12 am
woiyo wrote:
Yep, another representitive of the "religion of peace" chirps in...

"Pope Benedict faces a growing chorus of demands to make an unequivocal apology for remarks seen as portraying Islam as a violent faith, despite attempts by Western leaders and churchmen to defuse the crisis.

The calls came as it emerged papal hitman Mehmet Ali Agca, who is serving a life sentence for the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II in May 1981, has written to Pope Benedict XVI from jail, warning him not to go to Turkey as planned in November in the light of his remarks.

Agca, a Turk gave his ominous warning in a letter to an Italian daily newspaper.

For many Muslims, the Pope's attempt to explain himself on Sunday did not go far enough and observers were waiting to see if he would speak about it again at his general audience at the Vatican."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367507-details/Papal+assassin+warns+Pope+Benedict+his+'life+is+in+danger'+if+he+visits+Turkey/article.do

Until the moderate Muslims forcefully condem these statements and other acts of violence, one can only look at Islam as a sham.

God forbid if something should happen to the Pope. These Islamists (not all Muslims) might just get what they are asking for. Let them be warned.....
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:03 am
Christians dangerous?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM&eurl=

'Jesus camp' where kids are taught to be warriors, and worship the president. Truly scary

Cycloptichorn
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:12 am
gungasnake wrote:
... We had a very major attack on American soil which killed 3000 innocent Americans and our reaction has been to eliminate the two regimes most responsible for that attack and try to set up two rational governments for the people of those regions.

We could as easily have nuked both Mecca and Medina, and issued and enforced a planetary ban on the practice of I-slam and there would have been justice in that since we were basically attacked by a *ucked up religion, and not a *ucked up country as was the case in 1941.

Think about it.


gunga,

How could such a ban be enforced? And, what kind of government could we have set up that might take hold in those countries?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:15 am
Quote:
... We had a very major attack on American soil which killed 3000 innocent Americans and our reaction has been to eliminate the two regimes most responsible for that attack and try to set up two rational governments for the people of those regions.


Repeat after me: Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. They certainly weren't one of the two regimes 'most responsible' for the attacks; that would be Afghanistan and Saudia Arabia, or maybe Pakistan. Iraq? Hardly.

Cycloptichorn
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echi
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:22 am
Atavistic wrote:
JLNobody wrote:

Thank goodness that's not the cultural style of Christiandom, at least since the witch burnings and Inquisition. Besides American Christians have a military whose might can shock and awe Muslims far more effectively than Muslims can do with their pitiful effigies and martrys.
Face it, both sides are insane, and would do as much damage to the other side as they could (remember, I'm talking about fundies on both sides not Muslims and Christrians per se).

Again, you're implying that the American military is a direct extension of fundamentalist Christians. This is little more than a conspiracy theory.


It isn't a conspiracy theory, at all. It's the current state of affairs. Currently, fundamentalist Christian ideology is mostly in accord with US foreign policy. That relationship, of course, is subject to change.
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:26 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Christians dangerous?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM&eurl=

'Jesus camp' where kids are taught to be warriors, and worship the president. Truly scary

Cycloptichorn


Holy snikeys, that was crazy! As a Catholic New Yorker, those people give me the creeps!
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:31 am
Right? Seeing those little kids crying, and talking about how they want to lay their lives down for the cause - brainwashing stuff.

Cycloptichorn
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SierraSong
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:33 am
Atavistic wrote:
woiyo wrote:
Yep, another representitive of the "religion of peace" chirps in...

"Pope Benedict faces a growing chorus of demands to make an unequivocal apology for remarks seen as portraying Islam as a violent faith, despite attempts by Western leaders and churchmen to defuse the crisis.

The calls came as it emerged papal hitman Mehmet Ali Agca, who is serving a life sentence for the attempted assassination of Pope John Paul II in May 1981, has written to Pope Benedict XVI from jail, warning him not to go to Turkey as planned in November in the light of his remarks.

Agca, a Turk gave his ominous warning in a letter to an Italian daily newspaper.

For many Muslims, the Pope's attempt to explain himself on Sunday did not go far enough and observers were waiting to see if he would speak about it again at his general audience at the Vatican."

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/news/article-23367507-details/Papal+assassin+warns+Pope+Benedict+his+'life+is+in+danger'+if+he+visits+Turkey/article.do

Until the moderate Muslims forcefully condem these statements and other acts of violence, one can only look at Islam as a sham.

God forbid if something should happen to the Pope. These Islamists (not all Muslims) might just get what they are asking for. Let them be warned.....


Pope Comment Latest: Catholic Anger Over Muslim Anger Grows

Angergeddon Special

Anger over the anger caused by Pope Benedict XVI's quotation from Byzantine emperor Manuel II Palaeologus in a recent speech, could lead to a cycle of increasing anger that may only be stopped by the administration of drugs, according to a report we have seen.

Fears are growing that Muslims, already angry over the Pope's comments, could be angered even further when they find out that Catholics had become angered by their anger.

In an attempt to combat the cycle of increasing anger throughout the world, emergency services are preparing for a massive airlift of high blood pressure tablets to various hot spots around the globe. Teams of experts in 'calming' neck massages are also being told they should be ready to be flown out to anger hot spots at short notice.

But high blood pressure tablets and neck rubs may not be enough, according to a spokesman for High Blood Pressure Paramedics:

"It's a vicious cycle and it's difficult to see how it can be resolved without a few deep breaths and maybe a nice cup of tea together."
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gungasnake
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:42 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:

Repeat after me: Iraq had nothing to do with 9/11. They certainly weren't one of the two regimes 'most responsible' for the attacks....

Cycloptichorn



Why would anybody want to repeat an outright lie like that?

Saddam Hussein was provably behind the anthrax attacks which followed 9/11 and which were apparently meant as a warning against any form of retaliation for 9/11.

The first cases of anthrax turned up in Boca Raton, which is ten miles down the road from where Muhammed Atta had been staying, and the Czechs are sticking with their stories about Atta meeting with one of Hussein's spymasters in Prague just prior to 9-11, and Hussein had the world's most advanced weapon anthrax program.

Nobody should need to be Albert Einstein to connect that easy a series of dots.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 10:50 am
Atavistic wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Christians dangerous?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM&eurl=

'Jesus camp' where kids are taught to be warriors, and worship the president. Truly scary

Cycloptichorn


Holy snikeys, that was crazy! As a Catholic New Yorker, those people give me the creeps!


Have they killed anyone yet in the name of Christ or GW?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:02 am
So, maybe Saddam had something to do with the post-9/11 anthrax attacks, which in retrospect were pretty damn futile and didn't warn anyone away from anything. That doesn't mean that Iraq was a regime connected with 9/11 in any way, certainly less so than Pakistan and Saudi Arabia.

The Atta-Iraq connection is also considered to be a false lead by any standards other than the VPs.

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:08 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Christians dangerous?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM&eurl=

'Jesus camp' where kids are taught to be warriors, and worship the president. Truly scary

Cycloptichorn


I can't get the video to play for some reason.

Are they being taught how to strap on nail bomb belts? Are they instructed in the finer points of killing large numbers of civilians? How exactly are they being taught to be "warriors"? And who are they?
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:10 am
Hmm, I was having trouble with a different Youtube video yesterday.

I used the term 'warriors' because both the kids in the video - and I mean 10-12 yr olds. - and the adults running the thing described themselves that way. They discussed how others have died for their religious causes, and how they would like to do the same if they could.

Let me see if I can find another copy of the video

Cycloptichorn
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:23 am
Cycloptichorn wrote:
I used the term 'warriors' because both the kids in the video - and I mean 10-12 yr olds. - and the adults running the thing described themselves that way. They discussed how others have died for their religious causes, and how they would like to do the same if they could.


Okay, because I'm aware of the term "spirit warriors," where it does not have the same meaning as it does to the Jihadists. (Just google "warriors for christ" or "spiritual warfare" and see what you get ("putting on the armor of God"). Yes, if you fear these folks will try and evangelize you, you should be very afraid of them.)

But I don't know the connotation used in the video.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:26 am
They (the kids) spoke of people dying for their religous cause. It seemed a little bit more than proselytizing to me.

Cycloptichorn
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Atavistic
 
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Reply Wed 20 Sep, 2006 11:37 am
woiyo wrote:
Atavistic wrote:
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Christians dangerous?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=co1_9lR9EpM&eurl=

'Jesus camp' where kids are taught to be warriors, and worship the president. Truly scary

Cycloptichorn


Holy snikeys, that was crazy! As a Catholic New Yorker, those people give me the creeps!


Have they killed anyone yet in the name of Christ or GW?

Don't get me wrong, I'm not even comparing them with Islamic suicide bombers, I just said they give me the creeps.
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