historicity of Jesus

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An atheist from Mr and Mrs Average American's perspective
G'day all, and most especially Arella Mae and Angel Heart

Interesting read, some of the posts on this site...'tis for sure and certain

Assuming naught though, for the sake of some... let's talk of alleged intellectual abstinence, atheists and Faith shall we?

My Webster's defines an atheist as "a person who believes there is no God." I've read far better elaborations in my time, but that one will suffice I reckon.

After all, how does one effectively describe another, who doesn't believe in something they say doesn't exist anyway? I mean is it rocket science to many, or just to atheists that 0+0 = 0?

Please excuse any semblance of cynicism on my part, but try as I might over the years, to listen carefully to the arguments and ad hominem attacks made by atheists I have encountered...I never did quite get that! For those who would potentially consider responding...some clarification please?

Correction expected, but in for a penny eh? Let's see... atheists don't believe in something they say doesn't exist? And that's makes you so different to a believer in God?

Please if you will, for the sake of rationality from your island of skepticism in a sea of religious conformity... explain? Please do tell me of the god you do not believe in, because it's very likely I don't believe in that god either

To use the logic of atheism then, surely it would be that believers wouldn't believe in something they didn't believe exists either?

0+1 = 1


And for the record... neither would the majority of your fellow Americans...

Atheists are the "Most Distrusted Minority" in America
24Mar06


American's increasing acceptance of religious diversity doesn't extend to those who don't believe in a god, according to a national survey by researchers in the University of Minnesota's department of sociology.

From a telephone sampling of more than 2,000 households, university researchers found that Americans rate atheists below Muslims, recent immigrants, gays and lesbians and other minority groups in "sharing their vision of American society." Atheists are also the minority group most Americans are least willing to allow their children to marry.

Even though atheists are few in number, not formally organized and relatively hard to publicly identify, they are seen as a threat to the American way of life by a large portion of the American public. "Atheists, who account for about 3 percent of the U.S. population, offer a glaring exception to the rule of increasing social tolerance over the last 30 years," says Penny Edgell, associate sociology professor and the study's lead researcher.

http://www.shamis.de/atheists-are-the-most-distrusted-minority-in-america/

Perhaps though, it's best left alone for fear of offending others? Especially the likes of poor Kamil, the resident rocket scientist responder detailed below

One Response to:

"Atheists are the "Most Distrusted Minority" in America"

1 Kamil on Mar 24th, 2006 said:

So because atheists aren't as easily fooled in believing folklore/religion/lies they are to be less trusted? I thought rational people were MORE trusted?

Gee whizz Kamil, I'm not sure not quite sure hot to this mate... but perhaps you can think about this just for a heartbeat?

Rational people ARE more trusted...

Blessings all

Aussie Angel...

Aussie Angel! Girl, am I happy to see you and you have jumped right into the midst of things! Looking forward to seeing many, many, many more posts by you and the others!

Welcome everyone.

Aussie, your argument is that the "lowest common denominator" is right, by sheer weight of numbers? Flat earth anyone? You also touched on the point that you actively disbelieve in many, many other gods, some of which are the gods of churches almost (but not quite) the same as yours....but you don't mind the contradiction there?)

(BTW, If you are in Australia, the numbers are much different as you are well aware.)

This is not actually the thread for a blatant attack on atheists (or on christians), but rather on Jesus and the facts (or not) of his actual existence. Do you have anything valuable to add to the discussion or not?

I, for one, think it likely he did exist. (Although I find it extremely unlikely any gods ever have.)

Feeling put upon, and without argument of substance, one of our number has cried out to the herd for reinforcements. We're in for a tedious bout of preaching, proselytizing, and parroting, by all appearances - one might think the member responsible for the cattle call would have learned from prior experience the silliness of such a dishonest ploy.

A thumper gathering? This is going to be interesting.

Nothing dishonest about it - she hasn't tried to hide the fact that she needed help, and asked for it. They wouldn't have any reason to come here this time, except Arella keeps taking an unprovoked beating from all you wolrdly wise types.

Timberland, don't you think its strange that no one but men (and Lash) on A2K attack Arella? Do you think there's any method to the reasoning that keeps the women from joining in the pecking parties?

There is definitely evidence that a Jesus existed.

Somewhere in India, there is a tomb for a wiseman called Issa (which happens to be an Arabic name for Jesus). He is buried in the traditional Jewish orientation and had moulds made of his feet, which show scars as if they had been nailed in the fashion of a person whom has been nailed to a cross.

Whether this is the same Jesus as the one in the Bible is not clear.

Thumpers are not typically adverse to being jackasses either, AM.

I agree, completely.

I want to Say Good Morning To All In Here.May You Have A Blessed Day And Be A Blessing To Someone..God Bless..
The LORD is my light and my salvation

The LORD is my light and my salvation--
so why should I be afraid?
The LORD protects me from danger--
so why should I tremble?

When evil people come to destroy me,
when my enemies and foes attack me,
they will stumble and fall.

Though a mighty army surrounds me,
my heart will know no fear.
Even if they attack me,
I remain confident.

The one thing I ask of the LORD--
the thing I seek most--
is to live in the house of the LORD all the days of my life,
delighting in the LORD's perfections
and meditating in his Temple.

Psalm 27:1-4

Maybe there were a lot of Jesuses getting nailed to crosses back in them days.

The dishonesty lies in the concept of the call, snood, not in the manner of its issuance.


Nonsense - nobody has been beating on anyone. Some, however, are neither able to separate themselves from their positions, nor able to make a coherent case for the positions they espouse. More of the same is but more of the same; inanity is rendered no less inane for there being an increase of it. I expect nothing else from the troops our defenseless freind has marshalled to her support.


No, not at all. I certainly don't. Are you implying that skeptical criticism might be misogynistic, and/or that the gentler gender might be predisposed to delusion? How unchivalrous of you.