Is abortion really wrong?

Now let me tell you a story..........

A young man who had a lot of potential...Only 18 yrs old and at his first yr at a great college , gets his high school sweetheart pregnant....Both only 18 with no way to afford a child....have two options...1. abort the baby and forget about it and keep on the course of life as they know it or 2. have the baby...face the possibiblity of being shunned by many, having to drop out of college and struggling financially the rest of their lives to take care of that unplanned baby....

well let me tell ya how that story went....
They decided to keep the baby, got married ...struggled (yes) but the man finished college .....as did the woman.....the man became a successful nuclear engineer and the woman a nurse....both have been married 25 yrs have 5 kids and never regret not having an abortion...

who are those people....??? MY parents.......they made the choice to keep me and i thank God every day for that......

I have no respect for any person that puts their needs above an innocent childs welfare...That to me is selfish/.....

While I think I made my views known, I will say one more thing...

While abortion should be a last option, and not one to be used often (and preferably, not at all), I think it is very easy to sit on the sidelines and say "How horrible of her!" and be moralistic about it, when it's not your problem.

What if, by some stroke of luck, you happened to get a girl pregnant tomorrow? What goes through your mind when you realize you're probably going to have to drop out of college, get a low paying job (at 18 or 19, what are your options?), struggle to make ends meet, and basically give up a promising future, all to put food on the table and diapers on your child that you didn't really want in the first place?

It's easy to say what you would do if you were in that boat, but it's a hell of a lot harder to do it when you're there. Especially when you have lots of goals, ambition, and drive, like I do and I believe you do. It's so easy to judge when it's not your future on the line.

With my one "mistake", I didn't even know the girl was pregnant until after she had an abortion, so I don't have much weighing on my conscience. At the time, I was very anti-abortion, and was very sad to hear what she had done. But now...boy, am I glad. It might sound harsh, but I can't imagine not having a college degree, scraping to make ends meet, living in PA (where the girl was), and most importantly, having to focus all of my energies on someone else, instead of my goals and dreams.

You may say, "well, I always have safe sex"...ok, great if you do. But I'll tell you what, everyone makes mistakes. Condoms break, or alcohol impairs judgement, or you think you're going to pull out in time, or she tells you she's on the pill (and she's not). These things happen all the time to all sorts of people, good and bad, smart and dumb.

Would you be willing to give up your entire future because of one random mistake? You may say yes, but you wont ever really know until you're in that situation. I hope you wont ever be, for your sake.

And I am all for adoption, by all means. But far be it for me to dictate what a woman has to do with her body. It's a bit much to ask a woman to pop a child (that she doesn't even want) out and then give it up. Can you imagine shitting a whole orange?? Doesn't sound very fun to me.

And for the record, I'm not pro-abortion. I believe adamantly that 3rd trimester abortions should be completely illegal.

Jeremiah wrote:

While I think I made my views known, I will say one more thing...

While abortion should be a last option, and not one to be used often (and preferably, not at all), I think it is very easy to sit on the sidelines and say "How horrible of her!" and be moralistic about it, when it's not your problem.

What if, by some stroke of luck, you happened to get a girl pregnant tomorrow? What goes through your mind when you realize you're probably going to have to drop out of college, get a low paying job (at 18 or 19, what are your options?), struggle to make ends meet, and basically give up a promising future, all to put food on the table and diapers on your child that you didn't really want in the first place?

It's easy to say what you would do if you were in that boat, but it's a hell of a lot harder to do it when you're there. Especially when you have lots of goals, ambition, and drive, like I do and I believe you do. It's so easy to judge when it's not your future on the line.

With my one "mistake", I didn't even know the girl was pregnant until after she had an abortion, so I don't have much weighing on my conscience. At the time, I was very anti-abortion, and was very sad to hear what she had done. But now...boy, am I glad. It might sound harsh, but I can't imagine not having a college degree, scraping to make ends meet, living in PA (where the girl was), and most importantly, having to focus all of my energies on someone else, instead of my goals and dreams.

You may say, "well, I always have safe sex"...ok, great if you do. But I'll tell you what, everyone makes mistakes. Condoms break, or alcohol impairs judgement, or you think you're going to pull out in time, or she tells you she's on the pill (and she's not). These things happen all the time to all sorts of people, good and bad, smart and dumb.

Would you be willing to give up your entire future because of one random mistake? You may say yes, but you wont ever really know until you're in that situation. I hope you wont ever be, for your sake.

And I am all for adoption, by all means. But far be it for me to dictate what a woman has to do with her body. It's a bit much to ask a woman to pop a child (that she doesn't even want) out and then give it up. Can you imagine shitting a whole orange?? Doesn't sound very fun to me.

And for the record, I'm not pro-abortion. I believe adamantly that 3rd trimester abortions should be completely illegal.

Without using the bible or any type of relgion I think it is a horrible crime to commit abortion.
Abortion is nothing more than MURDER, and any who commit abortion are murders.

When does life begin?

Presumably, life begins when the fetus (as opposed to the embryo)becomes viable, that is, potentially able to live outside the mother's womb. At least, that's the way it appears to me.

blacksmithn wrote:

Presumably, life begins when the fetus (as opposed to the embryo)becomes viable, that is, potentially able to live outside the mother's womb. At least, that's the way it appears to me.

When exactly is 'viability'?

Oh great, this ridiculous circular argument again.
I presume you tour college campuses today telling people they should be having sex before marriage, so that people like you get to exist ? No, I thought not.

The only way this argument works is if you insist that every woman must have sex with as many men as she can at every opportunity from her earliest possible age of conception until menopause or her womb falls out, just to enable every potential person to exist.

Why should I respect someone who calls a foetus an "innocent child" for the sake of propaganda?

foe·tus
n. Chiefly British.
Variant of fetus.

So are the abortion doctors murderers or the woman having the abortion?

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I think that before one is quick to criticize, one needs to know about what one is saying!!!

Late term abortion strikes me as essentially morally indistinguishable from the murder of a baby soon after its birth.

Brandon9000 wrote:

Late term abortion strikes me as essentially morally indistinguishable from the murder of a baby soon after its birth.

At what point is it distinguishable?

Ok my whole point was to refute the guy who started this topic...I was showing that young couples can make it without aborting a child..But obviously you didn't see the point.

Eorl wrote

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The only way this argument works is if you insist that every woman must have sex with as many men as she can at every opportunity from her earliest possible age of conception until menopause or her womb falls out, just to enable every potential person to exist.

My story had nothing to do with the possible existence of future children, but with children already in the womb...So this statement of yours is ridiculous. Im not a psychic and can't predict the future of any " potential person" Im talking about the now, A woman already pregnant faced with options. I can't stand to hear about young couples who have sex then freak out when they become pregnant, decide its in their best interest to abort the baby.... there all always other options that don't involve killing the baby.....there is no excuse and you can go round and round trying to make up silly little arguments, but there is no excuse for a young couple to abort....