Not only do I know **** from Shinola, but also from apple butter, and I don't see a whole lotta shoe polish or apple butter in your recent posts.
That makes two of us! Happy?
From the CATO Institute:
The Reagan Fiscal Record
The fiscal record of the 1980s was much less impressive than the economic record. The major outcomes of Reagan's budgetary policies, as well as of the pre- and post-Reagan budgetary policies, are summarized in Table 2. Highlights are as follows:
Budget Deficit. The budget deficit exploded in the 1980s. Figure 6 shows that in 1981, the budget deficit was $101 billion (in 1987 dollars) and 2.7 percent of GDP. In 1983 it peaked at $236 billion and 6.3 percent of GDP. By the time Reagan left office in 1989, however, it had fallen to $141 billion and 2.9 percent of GDP. These deficits were higher in real dollars than those under any other post-World War II president except for George Bush.
National Debt. The national debt (public debt) in real 1987 dollars doubled from $1,004 billion in 1981 to $2,028 billion in 1989. As a share of GDP, the debt increased from 27 percent to 42 percent, as shown in Figure 7. In the 1990s the debt has risen to 52 percent of GDP. The rise in the national debt in the 1980s was large and has imposed significant repayment costs on future generations.
From the CATO Institute:
The Reagan Fiscal Record
The fiscal record of the 1980s was much less impressive than the economic record. The major outcomes of Reagan's budgetary policies, as well as of the pre- and post-Reagan budgetary policies, are summarized in Table 2. Highlights are as follows:
Budget Deficit. The budget deficit exploded in the 1980s. Figure 6 shows that in 1981, the budget deficit was $101 billion (in 1987 dollars) and 2.7 percent of GDP. In 1983 it peaked at $236 billion and 6.3 percent of GDP. By the time Reagan left office in 1989, however, it had fallen to $141 billion and 2.9 percent of GDP. These deficits were higher in real dollars than those under any other post-World War II president except for George Bush.
National Debt. The national debt (public debt) in real 1987 dollars doubled from $1,004 billion in 1981 to $2,028 billion in 1989. As a share of GDP, the debt increased from 27 percent to 42 percent, as shown in Figure 7. In the 1990s the debt has risen to 52 percent of GDP. The rise in the national debt in the 1980s was large and has imposed significant repayment costs on future generations.
From the CATO Institute:
The Reagan Fiscal Record
The fiscal record of the 1980s was much less impressive than the economic record. The major outcomes of Reagan's budgetary policies, as well as of the pre- and post-Reagan budgetary policies, are summarized in Table 2. Highlights are as follows:
Budget Deficit. The budget deficit exploded in the 1980s. Figure 6 shows that in 1981, the budget deficit was $101 billion (in 1987 dollars) and 2.7 percent of GDP. In 1983 it peaked at $236 billion and 6.3 percent of GDP. By the time Reagan left office in 1989, however, it had fallen to $141 billion and 2.9 percent of GDP. These deficits were higher in real dollars than those under any other post-World War II president except for George Bush.
National Debt. The national debt (public debt) in real 1987 dollars doubled from $1,004 billion in 1981 to $2,028 billion in 1989. As a share of GDP, the debt increased from 27 percent to 42 percent, as shown in Figure 7. In the 1990s the debt has risen to 52 percent of GDP. The rise in the national debt in the 1980s was large and has imposed significant repayment costs on future generations.
From the CATO Institute:
The Reagan Fiscal Record
The fiscal record of the 1980s was much less impressive than the economic record. The major outcomes of Reagan's budgetary policies, as well as of the pre- and post-Reagan budgetary policies, are summarized in Table 2. Highlights are as follows:
Budget Deficit. The budget deficit exploded in the 1980s. Figure 6 shows that in 1981, the budget deficit was $101 billion (in 1987 dollars) and 2.7 percent of GDP. In 1983 it peaked at $236 billion and 6.3 percent of GDP. By the time Reagan left office in 1989, however, it had fallen to $141 billion and 2.9 percent of GDP. These deficits were higher in real dollars than those under any other post-World War II president except for George Bush.
National Debt. The national debt (public debt) in real 1987 dollars doubled from $1,004 billion in 1981 to $2,028 billion in 1989. As a share of GDP, the debt increased from 27 percent to 42 percent, as shown in Figure 7. In the 1990s the debt has risen to 52 percent of GDP.
The rise in the national debt in the 1980s was large and has imposed significant repayment costs on future generations.
From the CATO Institute:
The Reagan Fiscal Record
The fiscal record of the 1980s was much less impressive than the economic record. The major outcomes of Reagan's budgetary policies, as well as of the pre- and post-Reagan budgetary policies, are summarized in Table 2. Highlights are as follows:
Budget Deficit. The budget deficit exploded in the 1980s. Figure 6 shows that in 1981, the budget deficit was $101 billion (in 1987 dollars) and 2.7 percent of GDP. In 1983 it peaked at $236 billion and 6.3 percent of GDP. By the time Reagan left office in 1989, however, it had fallen to $141 billion and 2.9 percent of GDP. These deficits were higher in real dollars than those under any other post-World War II president except for George Bush.
National Debt. The national debt (public debt) in real 1987 dollars doubled from $1,004 billion in 1981 to $2,028 billion in 1989. As a share of GDP, the debt increased from 27 percent to 42 percent, as shown in Figure 7. In the 1990s the debt has risen to 52 percent of GDP.
The rise in the national debt in the 1980s was large and has imposed significant repayment costs on future generations.
Whooda Thunk-- Mr. Imposter is very good at calling names but he is not able to debate or refute evidence. I call on him to refute the following. I need no name calling--just evidence that the following is not correct:
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Mr. Imposter--Read the following and you will realize that you are wrong again..
In 1978, Congress passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which establishes a separate legal regime for "foreign intelligence" surveillance. Title III (the "Wiretap Statute) outlines the strict guidelines regulating ordinary law enforcement surveillance, while FISA regulates the government's collection of "foreign intelligence" information in furtherance of U.S. counterintelligence. FISA was initially limited to electronic eavesdropping and wiretapping. In 1994 it was amended to permit covert physical entries in connection with "security" investigations, and in1998, it was amended to permit pen/trap orders. FISA can also be used to obtain some business records.
Under the Fourth Amendment, a search warrant must be based on probable cause to believe that a crime has been or is being committed. This is not the general rule under FISA: surveillance under FISA is permitted based on a finding of probable cause that the surveillance target is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power, irrespective of whether the target is suspected of engaging in criminal activity. However, if the target is a "U.S. person," there must be probable cause to believe that the U.S. person's activities may involve espionage or other similar conduct in violation of the criminal statutes of the United States. Nor may a U.S. person be determined to be an agent of a foreign power "solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States."
I am not sure, Whooda Thunk, whether Mr.Imposter can read or whether he does not read. I direct his attention to the line which reads-
SURVEILLANCE UNDER FISA IS PERMITTED BASED UNDER A FINDING OF PROBABLE CAUSE.
I can read just fine: it talks about "foreign intelligence," not American citizens. Do you know what a "foreign power or agent is?" I doubt it.
You probably never heard of the US Constitution and the Fourth Amendment that entitles Americans to privacy.
Fourth Amendment
Main article: Fourth Amendment to the United States Constitution
The Fourth Amendment guards against searches, arrests, and seizures of property without a specific warrant or a "probable cause" to believe a crime has been committed. A general right to privacy has been inferred from this amendment and others by the Supreme Court (See Griswold v. Connecticut), including a right to abortion (Roe v. Wade).
"The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."
I know what foreign intelligence is. It is the people in the Middle East who are our enemies. The surveillance took place when those people contacted or were contacted by someone in the United States.
I would suggest that you read the Supreme Court's judgement about the President's powers in cases such as these-
US vs. US District Court, 4070 S. 297 ( 1972)
"Nothing contained in this chapter or in section 605 of the Communications Act of 1934 (48 Stat. 1143; 47 U.S.C. 605) shall limit the constitutional power of the President to take such measures as he deems necessary to protect the Nation against actual or potential attack or other hostile acts of a foreign power, to obtain foreign intelligence information deemed essential to the security of the United States, or to protect national security information against foreign intelligence activities. Nor shall anything contained in this chapter be deemed to limit the constitutional power of the President to take such measures as he deems necessary to protect the United States against the overthrow of the Government by force or other unlawful means, or against any other clear and present danger to the structure or existence of the Government.
BernardR wrote: It is the people in the Middle East who are our enemies.
According to Wikipedia 'Middle East' defines as
Wikipedia
Middle East is according to Britannica ["Middle East." Encyclopædia Britannica. 2006. Encyclopædia Britannica Premium Service. 29 June 2006
http://www.britannica.com/eb/article-9052543 ]:
Quote:the lands around the southern and eastern shores of the Mediterranean Sea, extending from Morocco to the Arabian Peninsula and Iran and sometimes beyond. The central part of this general area was formerly called the Near East, a name given to it by some of the first modern Western geographers and historians, who tended to divide the Orient into three regions. Near East applied to the region nearest Europe, extending from the Mediterranean Sea to the Persian Gulf; Middle East, from the Gulf to Southeast Asia; and Far East, those regions facing the Pacific Ocean.
So, where DO YOU think your enemies live?
And more than a few in Old Europe.
WhoodaThunk wrote:And more than a few in Old Europe.
Would you mind naming those countries? Just in case, so that I can re-activate our old bunker for the time of the invasion.
Or - if you are just referring to a group/groups of persons - some names, so I can avoid their neighbarhood when the CIA kidnaps them.
Thank you in advance!
Frank Apisa wrote:Walter Hinteler wrote:WhoodaThunk wrote:And more than a few in Old Europe.
Would you mind naming those countries? Just in case, so that I can re-activate our old bunker for the time of the invasion.
Or - if you are just referring to a group/groups of persons - some names, so I can avoid their neighbarhood when the CIA kidnaps them.
Thank you in advance!
You see, Frank:
I really have to be concerned (and please don't tell anyone that the coordinates are exactly the place where I'm sitting now!!!)!
Walter Hinteler wrote:Frank Apisa wrote:Walter Hinteler wrote:WhoodaThunk wrote:And more than a few in Old Europe.
Would you mind naming those countries? Just in case, so that I can re-activate our old bunker for the time of the invasion.
Or - if you are just referring to a group/groups of persons - some names, so I can avoid their neighbarhood when the CIA kidnaps them.
Thank you in advance!
You see, Frank:
I really have to be concerned (and please don't tell anyone that the coordinates are exactly the place where I'm sitting now!!!)!
I won't.
Unfortunately, I understand that Carl Rove monitors these threads for just such specific information. :wink:
Frank Apisa wrote:Walter Hinteler wrote:Frank Apisa wrote:Walter Hinteler wrote:WhoodaThunk wrote:And more than a few in Old Europe.
Would you mind naming those countries? Just in case, so that I can re-activate our old bunker for the time of the invasion.
Or - if you are just referring to a group/groups of persons - some names, so I can avoid their neighbarhood when the CIA kidnaps them.
Thank you in advance!
You see, Frank:
I really have to be concerned (and please don't tell anyone that the coordinates are exactly the place where I'm sitting now!!!)!
I won't.
Unfortunately, I understand that Carl Rove monitors these threads for just such specific information. :wink:
Gentlemen, your chains are so yankable. At times I believe Frank's favorite moniker for GWB applies equally to you.
