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Why do you still support Bush?

 
 
BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 08:15 pm
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 08:58 pm
The attorney general does not have the power or right to define the FISA law. There are no "if, ands or buts" in the FISA law. Specifically stated, the president must get FISA court approval for wiretapping American citizens. That's the law. Very simple.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 09:02 pm
BernardR, You're more stupid than most: the congress and supreme court are republicans. They're not about to take action against their own president.

That's precisely the kind of problem we now have because all three brances of government are primarily of one party.

Checks and balances do not exist in todays' government makeup.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 09:53 pm
Lash wrote:
DEPLORING BUSH
By William F. Buckley Jr.
Fri Jun 23, 8:08 PM ET



On the matter of the president's uttering sentences that are garbled, Weisberg can't be argued with. But a difficulty with language can be attributed to many public figures, paradoxically, even to such as have proven skills. The young Dwight David Eisenhower, for instance, actually wrote military manuals when he served under Gen. Douglas MacArthur, who was a fussy overseer and a guardian of holy prose. And of course we know that en route to the White House, Ike served as president of Columbia University.



George Bush met in public debate Al Gore, an experienced debater, and walked away with immunity, as he would do four years later in his encounters with John Kerry. Weisberg doesn't take on the question of Bush being accepted at Yale, and achieving enough credits to graduate. It requires skills not generally associated with idiocy to maneuver so as to win the nomination of a national political party, and then an election, not once but twice.




Yeah.... but Eisenhower was not a drunken bum for 20 plus yrs.!


Bu$h being accepted at Yale? ROTFLMAO! Purchased acceptence, purchased grades, purchased diploma!

Bu$h is mean, conniving, nasty, two-faced, cheater, liar and a bunch of other adjectives. He is probably dumber than schitt but he has some more nasty conniving brains who are the real presidents..... that would be Cheney, Rove, & Rumsfeld.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 09:56 pm
BernardR wrote:
Wiretaps Illegal? Not according to the Attorney General who said:

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Massagatto, one would think that you could acquire new material by now. Who gives a schitt what AG Gonzales sez. Maybe we will be able to impeach that bastard too. Gonzales is going to say what bu$h want's him to say. This whole damn bunch of thugs should be turned over to the world court and prosecuted.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 10:46 pm
So Magginkat,
Can I take your position to be that you are not in favor of this present administration?


Laughing
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 10:54 pm
snood, You're not reading between the lines... LOL
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BernardR
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 01:42 am
Mr. Imposter says: "The Congress and Supreme Court are Republicans"

Incorrect.

The Congress is not Republican. It would have been correct( as you rarely are) to say that Republicans have a majority in the House and Senate.

The Supreme Court is not Republican. Noone knows how the members of the Supreme Court vote. They are not appointed to the Court according to party loyalty.

I am certain that Judge Ginsburg, Judge Breyer, Judge Souter and Judge Breyer are referred to in the media as judges who will usually vote as Liberals.

Therefore, your poorly constructed sentence--"The Congress and Supreme Court are Republicans" is far far off.

This will be proved by the decision to be issued in a few days by the USSC.
They will adjudicate the judicial fate of the Guantanamo Prisoners. If, as you erroneously claim, the Supreme Court was Republican, the Court would indeed vote 9-0 that the present military tribunals approved by the President of the United States can indeed stand.

They will not approve the military tribunals thereby putting the lie to your unsound claim.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 01:49 am
Mr. Imposter--Read the following and you will realize that you are wrong again..

In 1978, Congress passed the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which establishes a separate legal regime for "foreign intelligence" surveillance. Title III (the "Wiretap Statute) outlines the strict guidelines regulating ordinary law enforcement surveillance, while FISA regulates the government's collection of "foreign intelligence" information in furtherance of U.S. counterintelligence. FISA was initially limited to electronic eavesdropping and wiretapping. In 1994 it was amended to permit covert physical entries in connection with "security" investigations, and in1998, it was amended to permit pen/trap orders. FISA can also be used to obtain some business records.

Under the Fourth Amendment, a search warrant must be based on probable cause to believe that a crime has been or is being committed. This is not the general rule under FISA: surveillance under FISA is permitted based on a finding of probable cause that the surveillance target is a foreign power or an agent of a foreign power, irrespective of whether the target is suspected of engaging in criminal activity. However, if the target is a "U.S. person," there must be probable cause to believe that the U.S. person's activities may involve espionage or other similar conduct in violation of the criminal statutes of the United States. Nor may a U.S. person be determined to be an agent of a foreign power "solely upon the basis of activities protected by the first amendment to the Constitution of the United States."
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 02:03 am
BernardR wrote:
This will be proved by the decision to be issued in a few days by the USSC.
They will adjudicate the judicial fate of the Guantanamo Prisoners. If, as you erroneously claim, the Supreme Court was Republican, the Court would indeed vote 9-0 that the present military tribunals approved by the President of the United States can indeed stand.

They will not approve the military tribunals thereby putting the lie to your unsound claim.


Wow...this is absurd reasoning even for Bernie...which is no mean feat.

Seems incredible that such an illogical, poorly constructed thought could be incorporated into a post offering advice to another poster on that very issue!

Good for Bernie. Nothing deters a truly dedicated knee-jerk conservative.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 11:16 am
BernardR wrote:
Mr. Imposter says: "The Congress and Supreme Court are Republicans"


The Supreme Court is not Republican. Noone knows how the members of the Supreme Court vote. They are not appointed to the Court according to party loyalty.





Massagatto did you really type that with a straight face?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v737/Magginkat/LaughingDog.gif
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candidone1
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 02:43 pm
Bullshit Bernard.....
You have smugly championed Bush's appointment of conservative judges "who will have effect long after Bush is gone".
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Tue 27 Jun, 2006 03:14 pm
Massagatto doesn't have a face. ROFLMAO
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 06:33 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
I'm a LIBERAL, because I want small government, a small federal deficit, less government intrusion into my life, and a president that can speak the English language without crucifying it, and a "smart" president that knows how to lead our country without alienating half the world. I am considering voting for John McCain, because I'm a LIBERAL.

I'm not a neocon like Whothefunk, BernardR, Ashman, and others who blindly support this president that have taken us into a war illegally and without justifiable, error-free cause that have resulted in the killing of some 50,000 innocent (by latest estimates), noncombatant Iraqis, taken away our freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution to privacy, violated the very tenents of a democracy by torturing and not providing legal counsel to prisoners, and have no plan to end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yes, I'm a LIBERAL just like Ginsburg.


SissyOne Wimposter: You obviously have no idea what my political leanings are. And, BTW, you forgot your biggest qualifier as a LIBERAL in that your first line of defense seems to be becoming hysterical and calling people names (see Apisa's new microvocab for further evidence.)

Tell me. Do you screw with people's screennames because it makes you feel like you're, you know, way cool, dude?

Ain't workin'.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 06:36 pm
Seems to have "reached" you okay. LOL
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 06:52 pm
Wimposter: Not at all. It's just that I've made a concerted effort here to actually explain myself as not being one who blindly supports a party line. Yet you call me a neocon, screw with my screenname (repeatedly) and then giggle until you apparently **** your drawers for having "reached" me.

What's up with you?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 07:01 pm
Nothing. Sometimes I just get pissed at the world; nothing personal.

People credit me with saying things I've never said, and misinterpret things that are spelled out in simple English.

If you happend to be in target range, the pellets sometimes hits innocents, but my shots never kills. They're actually harmless.
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 07:06 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Nothing. Sometimes I just get pissed at the world; nothing personal.

People credit me with saying things I've never said, and misinterpret things that are spelled out in simple English.

If you happend to be in target range, the pellets sometimes hits innocents, but my shots never kills. They're actually harmless.


I suppose that's as close to an apology as a LIBERAL gets ...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 07:10 pm
I'm not a goddam liberal. That's the problem with "you" people that don't know shet from shinola. Do I have to spell out why I'm against Bush again? He's no conservative by anything close to definition of the word.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Wed 28 Jun, 2006 07:12 pm
But, I'm a Liberal in terms of who I bash - both Bush and democrats.
The republicans have a leaking boat, but the democrats don't have a rudder.
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