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Why do you still support Bush?

 
 
BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 04:41 pm
I am very much afraid that either Mr. Imposter missed the gist of the post below or he does not believe that the USSC is definitive when they rule on the Constitutionality of any governmental actions:


Sunday, May 07, 2006


Bush says Guantanamo closure possible after Supreme Court rules on military trials
Jamie Sterling at 3:02 PM ET



[JURIST] US President George W. Bush said Sunday that closing the US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay [JURIST news archives] is a possibility in the future depending on the US Supreme Court's decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld [Duke Law case backgrounder; JURIST report], which will determine the legality of military trials for Guantanamo detainees. The Court's decision on whether military commissions [JURIST news archive] for foreign terror suspects can proceed is expected by the end of June. In an interview [transcript] with German TV station ARD [media website, in German] that will be broadcast Sunday night, Bush said that he would like to close the prison and place the detainees on trial. Many human rights groups have criticized the US for inhumane treatment of Guantanamo detainees [HRW backgrounder] and the United Nations has called for the US to close Guantanamo [JURIST report], but the US government has in the past defended the facility [JURIST report]. Reuters has more.

In the UK, meanwhile, British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith [official profile] will take a strong stand against alleged abuse at Guantanamo and join other UK officials [JURIST report] in urging the US to close Guantanamo. Goldsmith is planning on speaking on the closure of Guantanamo at a global security conference at the Royal United Services Institute this week. US officials had previously discussed [JURIST report] the closure of Guantanamo with British officials. The Observer has local coverage.



THE TOP SENTENCE SAYS-

BUSH SAYS GUANTANAMO CLOSURE POSSIBLE AFTER SUPREME COURT RULES ON MILITARY TRIALS.

The date above is May 7, 2006.


Wait for the decision, Mr. Imposter, then, if you don't like it, you can complain!!!!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 04:44 pm
I am very much afraid that either Mr. Imposter missed the gist of the post below or he does not believe that the USSC is definitive when they rule on the Constitutionality of any governmental actions:


Sunday, May 07, 2006


Bush says Guantanamo closure possible after Supreme Court rules on military trials
Jamie Sterling at 3:02 PM ET



[JURIST] US President George W. Bush said Sunday that closing the US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay [JURIST news archives] is a possibility in the future depending on the US Supreme Court's decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld [Duke Law case backgrounder; JURIST report], which will determine the legality of military trials for Guantanamo detainees. The Court's decision on whether military commissions [JURIST news archive] for foreign terror suspects can proceed is expected by the end of June. In an interview [transcript] with German TV station ARD [media website, in German] that will be broadcast Sunday night, Bush said that he would like to close the prison and place the detainees on trial. Many human rights groups have criticized the US for inhumane treatment of Guantanamo detainees [HRW backgrounder] and the United Nations has called for the US to close Guantanamo [JURIST report], but the US government has in the past defended the facility [JURIST report]. Reuters has more.

In the UK, meanwhile, British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith [official profile] will take a strong stand against alleged abuse at Guantanamo and join other UK officials [JURIST report] in urging the US to close Guantanamo. Goldsmith is planning on speaking on the closure of Guantanamo at a global security conference at the Royal United Services Institute this week. US officials had previously discussed [JURIST report] the closure of Guantanamo with British officials. The Observer has local coverage.



THE TOP SENTENCE SAYS-

BUSH SAYS GUANTANAMO CLOSURE POSSIBLE AFTER SUPREME COURT RULES ON MILITARY TRIALS.

The date above is May 7, 2006.


Wait for the decision, Mr. Imposter, then, if you don't like it, you can complain!!!!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 04:44 pm
I am very much afraid that either Mr. Imposter missed the gist of the post below or he does not believe that the USSC is definitive when they rule on the Constitutionality of any governmental actions:


Sunday, May 07, 2006


Bush says Guantanamo closure possible after Supreme Court rules on military trials
Jamie Sterling at 3:02 PM ET



[JURIST] US President George W. Bush said Sunday that closing the US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay [JURIST news archives] is a possibility in the future depending on the US Supreme Court's decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld [Duke Law case backgrounder; JURIST report], which will determine the legality of military trials for Guantanamo detainees. The Court's decision on whether military commissions [JURIST news archive] for foreign terror suspects can proceed is expected by the end of June. In an interview [transcript] with German TV station ARD [media website, in German] that will be broadcast Sunday night, Bush said that he would like to close the prison and place the detainees on trial. Many human rights groups have criticized the US for inhumane treatment of Guantanamo detainees [HRW backgrounder] and the United Nations has called for the US to close Guantanamo [JURIST report], but the US government has in the past defended the facility [JURIST report]. Reuters has more.

In the UK, meanwhile, British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith [official profile] will take a strong stand against alleged abuse at Guantanamo and join other UK officials [JURIST report] in urging the US to close Guantanamo. Goldsmith is planning on speaking on the closure of Guantanamo at a global security conference at the Royal United Services Institute this week. US officials had previously discussed [JURIST report] the closure of Guantanamo with British officials. The Observer has local coverage.



THE TOP SENTENCE SAYS-

BUSH SAYS GUANTANAMO CLOSURE POSSIBLE AFTER SUPREME COURT RULES ON MILITARY TRIALS.

The date above is May 7, 2006.


Wait for the decision, Mr. Imposter, then, if you don't like it, you can complain!!!!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 04:44 pm
I am very much afraid that either Mr. Imposter missed the gist of the post below or he does not believe that the USSC is definitive when they rule on the Constitutionality of any governmental actions:


Sunday, May 07, 2006


Bush says Guantanamo closure possible after Supreme Court rules on military trials
Jamie Sterling at 3:02 PM ET



[JURIST] US President George W. Bush said Sunday that closing the US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay [JURIST news archives] is a possibility in the future depending on the US Supreme Court's decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld [Duke Law case backgrounder; JURIST report], which will determine the legality of military trials for Guantanamo detainees. The Court's decision on whether military commissions [JURIST news archive] for foreign terror suspects can proceed is expected by the end of June. In an interview [transcript] with German TV station ARD [media website, in German] that will be broadcast Sunday night, Bush said that he would like to close the prison and place the detainees on trial. Many human rights groups have criticized the US for inhumane treatment of Guantanamo detainees [HRW backgrounder] and the United Nations has called for the US to close Guantanamo [JURIST report], but the US government has in the past defended the facility [JURIST report]. Reuters has more.

In the UK, meanwhile, British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith [official profile] will take a strong stand against alleged abuse at Guantanamo and join other UK officials [JURIST report] in urging the US to close Guantanamo. Goldsmith is planning on speaking on the closure of Guantanamo at a global security conference at the Royal United Services Institute this week. US officials had previously discussed [JURIST report] the closure of Guantanamo with British officials. The Observer has local coverage.



THE TOP SENTENCE SAYS-

BUSH SAYS GUANTANAMO CLOSURE POSSIBLE AFTER SUPREME COURT RULES ON MILITARY TRIALS.

The date above is May 7, 2006.


Wait for the decision, Mr. Imposter, then, if you don't like it, you can complain!!!!
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 04:44 pm
I am very much afraid that either Mr. Imposter missed the gist of the post below or he does not believe that the USSC is definitive when they rule on the Constitutionality of any governmental actions:


Sunday, May 07, 2006


Bush says Guantanamo closure possible after Supreme Court rules on military trials
Jamie Sterling at 3:02 PM ET



[JURIST] US President George W. Bush said Sunday that closing the US detention facility at Guantanamo Bay [JURIST news archives] is a possibility in the future depending on the US Supreme Court's decision in Hamdan v. Rumsfeld [Duke Law case backgrounder; JURIST report], which will determine the legality of military trials for Guantanamo detainees. The Court's decision on whether military commissions [JURIST news archive] for foreign terror suspects can proceed is expected by the end of June. In an interview [transcript] with German TV station ARD [media website, in German] that will be broadcast Sunday night, Bush said that he would like to close the prison and place the detainees on trial. Many human rights groups have criticized the US for inhumane treatment of Guantanamo detainees [HRW backgrounder] and the United Nations has called for the US to close Guantanamo [JURIST report], but the US government has in the past defended the facility [JURIST report]. Reuters has more.

In the UK, meanwhile, British Attorney General Lord Goldsmith [official profile] will take a strong stand against alleged abuse at Guantanamo and join other UK officials [JURIST report] in urging the US to close Guantanamo. Goldsmith is planning on speaking on the closure of Guantanamo at a global security conference at the Royal United Services Institute this week. US officials had previously discussed [JURIST report] the closure of Guantanamo with British officials. The Observer has local coverage.



THE TOP SENTENCE SAYS-

BUSH SAYS GUANTANAMO CLOSURE POSSIBLE AFTER SUPREME COURT RULES ON MILITARY TRIALS.

The date above is May 7, 2006.


Wait for the decision, Mr. Imposter, then, if you don't like it, you can complain!!!!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 05:12 pm
I am very much afraid Mr Gatos that you do not realize that Mr Bush is a moron. Perhaps if you could get a decent education you would understand that much clearer.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 05:19 pm
I am very much afraid, Mr. Dyslexia, that it is you who needs an education, at least in the area of definition of terms.

If you will search any decent dictionary, Mr. Dyslexia, you will discover that the definition of Moron

quote--A person having a IQ of 50-69 and judged incapable of developing beyond a mental age of 8-12.

Since President Bush has attended Yale Undergradate School, earned an MBA from Harvard and flown training airplanes while he was in the Air National Guard, it is impossible for him to fall under that definition.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 05:20 pm
Oops, dys; you just gave him motivation to run about forty more miles of pastes and links.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 05:26 pm
Mr Edgar Blythe- I am surprised at you. Artist and creative writer that you are and you want to stifle my creations?


Shame!!!!!
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 05:27 pm
BernardR wrote:
I am very much afraid, Mr. Dyslexia, that it is you who needs an education, at least in the area of definition of terms.

If you will search any decent dictionary, Mr. Dyslexia, you will discover that the definition of Moron

quote--A person having a IQ of 50-69 and judged incapable of developing beyond a mental age of 8-12.

Since President Bush has attended Yale Undergradate School, earned an MBA from Harvard and flown training airplanes while he was in the Air National Guard, it is impossible for him to fall under that definition.

I, having graduated the 8th grade, obviously exceed your standards for having an education. Mr Bush, on the other hand has simply demonstrated that being the son of a former VP as well as a father (elitist from New England with $ and family with ties to the Nazi part) can buy you any degree you wish. As always Mr Gatos I thank you for continuing to read my posts, I shall continue to use the smallest words I can find to ease your difficulty.
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WhoodaThunk
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 06:48 pm
cicerone imposter wrote:
Back in February, Mother Jones magazine wrote about a study by Seton Hall law professor Joshua Denbeaux, who used data supplied by the Pentagon to look at who's in Guantanamo. His findings ...


I'm always amused when libs openly cite sources like this as if they are beyond reproach and then imply any/all opposing thought must emanate from Fox News.


cicerone imposter wrote:
NYT's Neal A. Lewis reports ...


Same cloth, different cut ...
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 06:55 pm
DEPLORING BUSH
By William F. Buckley Jr.
Fri Jun 23, 8:08 PM ET


If your assignment was to write an essay on the stupidity of President Bush, you could start in with some confidence. The reason for this is that George W. Bush hasn't any flair for the spoken word, so that you can take specimens of this weakness and deduce, for your composition on G.W. Bush, that he is stupid.

This is a game of sorts, but the temptations affect the thinking of those naturally attracted to condescension, an exercise which has the gratifying consequence of leaving you exalted. Slate magazine, the spicy child of Michael Kinsley, and nowadays the property of The Washington Post, is celebrating its 10th anniversary, to which end it advertises an anthology, "The Best of Slate." One of the essays in it is a mordant derogation of George W. Bush.

This isn't accomplished by discussing five public issues on which the critic differs from Bush, effecting demonization. Such public questions are given here and there, but only as background matter, and the passing point is made that he is worse than his father. ("While some describe the second Bush presidency as a restoration, it is in at least equal measure a repudiation. The son's harder-edged conservatism explicitly rejects the old man's approach to such issues as abortion, taxes and relations with Israel.")

But the author of this 10th anniversary celebration of Bushwhacking coolly rises from all such political passions, preferring just to leave it that Bush is -- the temptation is to write, "sort of dumb," but Jacob Weisberg doesn't say that. He prefers just plain dumb.

On the matter of the president's uttering sentences that are garbled, Weisberg can't be argued with. But a difficulty with language can be attributed to many public figures, paradoxically, even to such as have proven skills. The young Dwight David Eisenhower, for instance, actually wrote military manuals when he served under Gen. Douglas MacArthur, who was a fussy overseer and a guardian of holy prose. And of course we know that en route to the White House, Ike served as president of Columbia University.

But it remains true that some of Ike's improvised spoken language was as impenetrable as the Rosetta stone. After his answer to the question, What would he do if the Soviet Union again laid siege on Berlin? someone made a wisecrack to the effect that resourceful Soviet cryptographers would have given Khrushchev absolutely contradictory accounts of what President Eisenhower threatened.

It was for many years insisted upon by detractors that Ronald Reagan was basically illiterate. That myth is receding, however reluctantly. For one thing, it runs up against the extraordinary letters by President Reagan to divers people on all subjects. Yet it is correct that if the assignment is to put together from Reagan press conferences structureless sentences with conflicting emphases, the job can be done.

Weisberg reproduces a few sentences from Bush that establish the claim of verbal clumsiness. But Weisberg won't settle for that. His thesis is that Bush is incompetent to think and speak, and that he elected to settle with that incompetence because of laziness, since thinking consumes intellectual calories.

Now there is a problem here, and Weisberg ignores it. It is that Bush has confronted in public contests nimble opponents. You would not do combat with the waspish Ann Richards, former governor of Texas, if you could help it. Ms. Richards is one of the sharpest tongues in town (it was she who said that the senior Bush was born with a silver foot in his mouth). Bush not only survived the encounter, he defeated the wasp.

George Bush met in public debate Al Gore, an experienced debater, and walked away with immunity, as he would do four years later in his encounters with John Kerry. Weisberg doesn't take on the question of Bush being accepted at Yale, and achieving enough credits to graduate. It requires skills not generally associated with idiocy to maneuver so as to win the nomination of a national political party, and then an election, not once but twice.

Mr. Weisberg's premise -- that to do this does not require intelligence, thoughtful planning and marginal lucidity -- has one wondering, but not about deficiencies in Bush. There manifestly aren't such in Weisberg in the matter of articulateness, so you find yourself playing with the derivations of it all: (1) You can't be stupid and become president; (2) You can be articulate and be stupid.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

For those too young to remember, Kinsley used to be Buckley's trollish foil on Buckley's TV program Firing Line. Anyway, cute article. Very Happy
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 07:11 pm
For sure, is this the same William F Buckley that adamently supported the John Birch society but graciously slid out when Robert Welch pronounced Dwight D Eisenhower as a communist fellow traveler? The Joe Pine with language skills?
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 07:18 pm
I'm a LIBERAL, because I want small government, a small federal deficit, less government intrusion into my life, and a president that can speak the English language without crucifying it, and a "smart" president that knows how to lead our country without alienating half the world. I am considering voting for John McCain, because I'm a LIBERAL.

I'm not a neocon like Whothefunk, BernardR, Ashman, and others who blindly support this president that have taken us into a war illegally and without justifiable, error-free cause that have resulted in the killing of some 50,000 innocent (by latest estimates), noncombatant Iraqis, taken away our freedoms guaranteed by our Constitution to privacy, violated the very tenents of a democracy by torturing and not providing legal counsel to prisoners, and have no plan to end the war in Iraq and Afghanistan.

Yes, I'm a LIBERAL just like Ginsburg.
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Lash
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 07:26 pm
dyslexia wrote:
For sure, is this the same William F Buckley that adamently supported the John Birch society but graciously slid out when Robert Welch pronounced Dwight D Eisenhower as a communist fellow traveler? ..

The alternative would have been to continue supporting them...? Very Happy
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 07:29 pm
That's an interesting list of charges that you make, Mr. Imposter. It is too bad that you do not evidence to prove that they are nothing more than liberal mud slinging.

Of course, it just may be possible that you are one of the persons who have the truth about the Republican Administration. But, I am very much afraid that despite the questionable "polls" , the Republicans have beaten the stuffings out of the liberal left wing Democrats in

2000

2002

and 2004.

I will be here on the threads to report the Republican victory in their retention of their majorities in the House and Senate in 2006.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 07:44 pm
BernardR, It's because you and others who are slamming "liberals" don't know what "republicanism" means.

Under Bush, we have; a) biggest federal deficit and getting worse, b) more government intrusions into our lives 1) Teri Schiavo, 2) illegal wiretaps, and 3) NCLB (a state and local issue), and c) a drug plan that's so screwed up, most seniors failed to sign up for it, and Bush is spending money the government doesn't have. Big government seems to be the Bush administration and republican congress mantra. Show me how this is "real" republicanism? Besides all that, Bush is a moron.

Yeah, I'm a LIBERAL by any defintion of the present administration and congress.
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Frank Apisa
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 08:00 pm
dyslexia wrote:
I am very much afraid Mr Gatos that you do not realize that Mr Bush is a moron.


Actually, Mr. Dyslexia, Mr. Bush is a fukin' moron...and you neglected to mention that this fukin' moron is a disgrace to the office he holds...and to the country he is pretending to lead.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 08:02 pm
But more importantly, because I wouldn't want to be associated with people like BernardR, Ashman, Lash, Whothefunk, et al that supports a moron president that doesn't reflect anything that's considered "republicanism" by any definition of that word.
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BernardR
 
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Reply Sun 25 Jun, 2006 08:09 pm
Mr. Imposter- It grieves me to inform you that you do not know what you are talking about:

First-with regard to "biggest federal deficit and getting worse, you obviously are either poorly informed or cannot read-

The facts are that the Federal Deficit through May is running well below last year's pace helped by strong growth in revenues.

The phrase--"more government intrusions in our lives" that you use is broad and meaningless.

Teri Schiavo?? What about Teri Schaivo? She is deceased? What does the mere listing of her name mean? Is President Bush her brother?


Illegal wiretaps? Who said they were illegal? The US Supreme Court? You don't have a clue, Mr. Imposter
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