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Democrat lawmaker attacks police officer

 
 
Amigo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 10:59 am
Ticomaya wrote:
Montana wrote:
But the boots aren't working in this crazy thread!


Oh, the boots are working, alright.
Everythings working.
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woiyo
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 11:58 am
blacksmithn wrote:
woiyo wrote:
blacksmithn wrote:
I told you, in words you would presumably understand (clearly I was mistaken on that point!), look to your own beam before you presume to comment on the motes of others.

In other words, Sparky, since you guys have actual INDICTED jackanapes (and I submit that in the grand scheme of things, pedophilia, bribery and corruption are rather more serious than slapping a guard, if that in fact is what happened) to worry about, go deal with those before whining about somebody else's behavior.


So you have no opinion on this matter. Then why are you making any commentary?


My opinion, which has been made abundantly clear is that the right is better served by getting their own corrupt house in order, rather than hypocritically hand-wringing over some misbegotten incident which is, assuming arguendo that the ALLEGATIONS are true, a mere tittle on the balance when compared to the real, live, actual CRIMINAL charges (not to mention convictions) piled up around your team.

Get it, now? Or do I need to spell it out again? Sheesh, no wonder you're still a true believer in the Way of the Shrub.


You are a moron. You are a partisen hack who can not be objective about anything.

You ignore the facts that I have made relative to a POLITICIAN acting in an irresponsible manner and YOU bring up everything else but this politicans actions.

You, are a moron.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:17 pm
You are violating the TOS, in case you need to be told.
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:17 pm
How droll. The pot calls the kettle black.

And it's partisan, Sparky.
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Ticomaya
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:32 pm
McKinney finally does the right thing and apologizes to the Capitol Hill Police on the House floor.


VIDEO
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FreeDuck
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:32 pm
Good for her.
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dyslexia
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:34 pm
arrogance results in apology. moving along now.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:45 pm
Screeeeeech.

We'll move along after she puts on the orange suit.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:49 pm
Yeah, right. Amazing that you consider this to be a priority, yet keep your mouth shut about all the crooks at the top of your party, Lash.

Hypocrisy at its best! Laughing

Cycloptichorn
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 12:56 pm
Wonder if Dick Cheney will ever really apologize for shooting a fellow hunter while under the influence?
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blacksmithn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:02 pm
Will Tom Delay ever apologize for corrupting the American political system?

Will George Bush Lite ever apologize for... well, for pretty much everything he's ever done as president?!
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CoastalRat
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:05 pm
Good that she apologized to the Cap. Police on the House floor. What she should do next is apologize personally to the officer she hit, then maybe even to the general public for trying to make this out to be a racial incident.

Of course, I don't think an apology should absolve her of any consequence of her action, but that is for the grand jury to decide. But at least she apologized, even if it may have been political pressure from colleagues which brought about said apology.

So I agree with Dys. Time to move along.
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:07 pm
The only thing Bush will ever apologize for is:

I thought I made a mistake but I was wrong. I hadn't made a mistake.

Has the officer come out of intensive care yet? I wan't aware of that.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:24 pm
Cycloptichorn wrote:
Yeah, right. Amazing that you consider this to be a priority, yet keep your mouth shut about all the crooks at the top of your party, Lash.

Hypocrisy at its best! Laughing

Cycloptichorn

Hey, I just started at the bottom of your huge list of crooks. Laughing Laughing Laughing
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:26 pm
Really? Who else is on that list, pray tell?

You are the frickin' definition of whistling past the graveyard! Unless you've changed party affilitation on me Smile

Cycloptichorn
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Setanta
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:44 pm
Now we're to believe that McKinney is a crook? How did we get to that point?
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:45 pm
#1 WHY TOM DELAY AND HILLARY CLINTON MAY REMAIN AT LARGE

THE FACT THAT JACK ABRAMOFF is a crook only takes you so far, thanks to the way federal law reads. To understand why, it is useful to go back to the case of Clinton's agriculture secretary Michael Espy.

In his investigation of the Ag Department scandal, independent prosecutor Dan Smaltz brought 15 criminal or civil prosecutions against 14 persons, seven companies and one law firm. He obtained 15 convictions and collected over $11 million in fines and civil penalties. The largest corporate offender, Tyson Foods, paid the government $6 million in settlement of its case.

Because of the acquittal of former Ag Secretary Michael Espy, however, one would never guess that Smaltz had done anything right. In fact, the Washington elite, led by the major media, leaped on the acquittal as evidence of the gross failure of the independent prosecutor statute.

But the primary reason Espy was let off was not because he hadn't received illegal gratuities -- others were convicted of giving them to him -- but because a US Court of Appeals ruled that the applicable law required that Espy "knowingly and willfully" acted to break the law. As the Washington Times put it, "Intent by the companies who gave him the gifts did not matter in the decision." Further Espy claimed that he fell under another exception -- that all the gratuities had come from friends. Thus it was okay for federal officials to accept bribes as long as no one could prove they did anything specific in return and further that if the bribers and bribee were buddies, the latter was off the hook.

Such protection, however, did not extend to the briber. For example, an official of Tyson Foods was convicted of "giving in excess of $8,500 of illegal gifts" Espy under the Meat Inspection Act of 1906, back when they still knew what a bribe was. Smaltz described the law this way: "The Meat Inspection Act forbids individuals dealing with USDA employees involved in meat inspection from giving any thing of value to them with the intent to influence official actions." Nothing about having to provide a quid pro quo.

Now the laws that made the Democrats so happy in the Espy case may come back to haunt them. Carl Hulse of the NY Times explained it last November:

||| The prosecutors say that among the criminal activities of Michael Scanlon, a former House leadership aide who pleaded guilty on Monday to bribery conspiracy, were efforts to influence a lawmaker identified in court papers only as Representative No. 1 with gifts that included $4,000 to his campaign account and $10,000 to a Republican Party fund on his behalf.

Lawyers and others who follow such issues say the case against Mr. Scanlon amounted to a shift by the Justice Department, which, they say, has generally steered clear of trying to build corruption cases around political donations because the charges can be hard to prove. . .

Court documents filed by prosecutors lay out an extensive conspiracy in which Mr. Scanlon and Mr. Abramoff, identified in the documents only as Lobbyist A, sought to defraud clients -- mainly Indian tribes with gambling interests -- and win legislative help from lawmakers in exchange for campaign donations, trips, dinners, greens fees and jobs. . . .

Federal law requires that to prove bribery, the government must establish that a ''thing of value'' was provided in a direct effort to obtain a specific official act -- the essential quid pro quo. A more vague expectation that something like a contribution might influence a public official has been deemed insufficient. . . |||

Thus, one of the big obstacle to a full and fair denouement of the Abramoff matter lies not in current politics but in old, bad law that virtually requires a copy of the receipt before a bribe is worth prosecuting.

This is just one of the extraordinary anomalies of our election laws. Take for example Hillary Clinton's 2000 Hollywood fundraising scandal, as badly underreported in the press as its proceeds were in her FEC reports. Here is the latest development:

||| AP - A campaign fundraising group for Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton has agreed to a $35,000 fine for underreporting hundreds of thousands of dollars spent on a Hollywood fundraiser in 2000. The organization, New York Senate 2000, agreed to a federal finding that it failed to report $721,895 spent on the fundraiser to boost the former first lady's campaign for the Senate, according to paperwork provided by Peter F. Paul, who helped finance the star-studded gala that drew Cher, Diana Ross, Brad Pitt and Jennifer Aniston. |||

Abramoff is accused, among other things, of is using campaign contributions in various ways as a form of bribery. What Clinton's campaign did was not report contributions at all, a lesser, but still pretty dramatic offense.

For example, in the late 1990s, a federal judge fined Miami businessman, Democratic fundraiser, and Clinton buddy Howard Glicken $80,000 for illegally soliciting $20,000 in foreign contributions. The judge also gave Glicken 18 months probation and 500 hours of community service. In other words, Glicken had to pay not only in community service but four times the amount illegally raised. In Hillary Clinton's case, the settlement amounted to less than 5% of the funny money.

And so the game goes on. . .

And, as in Las Vegas, don't expect to beat the house.
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:47 pm
http://prorev.com/@14chung.jpg

Does that writing say, "Thanks for selling us nuke secrets!! Love that Los Alamos!!!"
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Lash
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:49 pm
THE JOHN HUANG CONNECTION

In 1994 John Huang quits the Lippo Group -- with a golden parachute of around $800,000 -- and goes to work for the Commerce Department. Some believe the move is instigated by his friend, Hillary Clinton. The Indonesia-based Lippo Group was headed by Mochtar Riady, a central character in the Clinton scandals.

Commerce Secretary Ron Brown ordered a top secret clearance for Huang. While at Commerce, Huang visits the White House about 70 times, is briefed 37 times by the CIA, views about 500 intelligence reports, and makes 281 calls to Lippo banks. In 1999 Huang was sentenced for campaign finance violations.

Also in 1994, Webster Hubbell is convicted of tax evasion and mail fraud involving the theft of nearly a half million dollars from his partners at the Rose firm and failing to pay nearly $150,000 in taxes. After quitting the Justice Department and before going to jail, Hubbell is a busy man. He meets with Hillary Clinton, and follows up by getting together with major scandal figures John Huang, James Riady, and Ng Lapseng. Riady and Huang go to the White House every day from June 21 to June 25, 1994 according to White House records. Hubbell had breakfast and lunch with Riady on June 23. Four days later -- and one week after Hubbell's meeting with Hillary -- the Hong Kong Chinese Bank, jointly owed by Lippo and the Chinese intelligence services, sends $100,000 to Hubbell.
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Cycloptichorn
 
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Reply Thu 6 Apr, 2006 01:50 pm
Way to change the subject, completely, to Hillary Bashing.

And don't forget to post your source:

http://www.prorev.com/hillary.htm

Rolling Eyes

Cycloptichorn
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