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Who Would Vote For bush Again?

 
 
cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 04:34 pm
Exactly. A giant inline skating rink.

Shoulda been done long ago.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 04:44 pm
Here's the folks those who oppose the war on terrorism want you to vote for in 2008:

http://www.foxnews.com/images/168372/4_22_062905_iran_leaders_450.jpg

They're good folks. Trust them.
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Dartagnan
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 05:03 pm
In case you haven't heard, cjhsa, the US just agreed to talks with those guys re the future of Iraq. Get with the program, dude...
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 05:05 pm
D'art, These righties don't know what they're fighting or defending. They just write anything without checking out the latest news. LOL Ignorance comes to mind.
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 05:13 pm
I'm current. We've agreed to no such thing. Iran stuck out an olive branch with a grenade attached. All the liberals thought it was a St. Patty's day present.
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Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 05:26 pm
cj why don't you go practice your stranglehold licks and leave the adult stuff to the adults?
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cjhsa
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 05:27 pm
Watch out for the guacamole dude. That wasn't an avocado.
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 06:43 pm
Brandon9000 wrote:
Magginkat wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:


We invaded Iraq to protect ourselves from the prospect of a Saddam Hussein armed with doomsday weapons. We were protecting ourselves, and also requiring Hussein to comply with the surrender treaty he signed after annexing Kuwait. We were not bullying anyone. We have no expectation of anyone falling down and kissing our feet.
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Brandon, there is no way in Haydes that I am going to spend my time debunking your worn out sound bytes. For God's sake, come up with something new for a change.

The only thing we need to protect ourselves from at this moment is that little dictator wannabe in the oval office. He is the world's foremost terrorist.

Alright, then, unlike most of us who are debating competing ideas, your activity here on this board is simply to state opinions without evidence. When you are asked for evidence that anything you say is true, you become indignant. So be it, but the obvious conclusion is that you cannot support any of your opinions.




Wrong as usual Brandon,

I am used to your silly games and I refuse to participate. I did not come here to do research for you. I stated my opinion and if you want to try to prove my thoughts wrong go for it but I have absolutely no intention of answering every inane question you throw out.

If I see one that makes sense and if I feel like answering it I will. I doubt that will happen since all you do is to mindlessly repeat those Faux Spews sound bytes.
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Amigo
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 06:59 pm
http://www.butlerwebs.com/tragedy/tragedy-images/bush-arab.jpgHeres who you guys voted for
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Fri 17 Mar, 2006 07:12 pm
Put him in front of some US military in Iraq. ha ha ha ha ha.....
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Lightwizard
 
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Reply Sat 18 Mar, 2006 09:43 am
Mohammed Bush Baby?
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 19 Mar, 2006 12:54 am
Magginkat wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
Magginkat wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:


We invaded Iraq to protect ourselves from the prospect of a Saddam Hussein armed with doomsday weapons. We were protecting ourselves, and also requiring Hussein to comply with the surrender treaty he signed after annexing Kuwait. We were not bullying anyone. We have no expectation of anyone falling down and kissing our feet.
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Brandon, there is no way in Haydes that I am going to spend my time debunking your worn out sound bytes. For God's sake, come up with something new for a change.

The only thing we need to protect ourselves from at this moment is that little dictator wannabe in the oval office. He is the world's foremost terrorist.

Alright, then, unlike most of us who are debating competing ideas, your activity here on this board is simply to state opinions without evidence. When you are asked for evidence that anything you say is true, you become indignant. So be it, but the obvious conclusion is that you cannot support any of your opinions.




Wrong as usual Brandon,

Specifically which of the thing I said is wrong, that you wish to make assertions with no evidence, and react indignantly when asked to support them with evidence? I am merely summarizing our posts. Which of the things I said was innacurate?

Magginkat wrote:
I am used to your silly games and I refuse to participate.

Yes, the silly game of asking someone who has made assertions with no evidence to provide a little. That is what everyone does in debate.

Magginkat wrote:
I did not come here to do research for you. I stated my opinion and if you want to try to prove my thoughts wrong go for it but I have absolutely no intention of answering every inane question you throw out....

So, unlike most of us, you wish to make assertions with no evidence whatever, and when one asks you to provide evidence that what you assert might be correct, you claim that your assertions are correct unless actively disproven. If you don't even understand the basic idea of debate, or even ordinary argument, then you're not worth talking to. Here on Earth, the person who makes a claim is the one who has the responsibility to support it.
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Roxxxanne
 
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Reply Sun 19 Mar, 2006 10:32 am
I finally figured out what the 9000 in Brandon9000 stands for. It is the number of times that Brandon will repeat the same nonsensical mantra.
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snood
 
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Reply Sun 19 Mar, 2006 10:42 am
Roxxxanne wrote:
I finally figured out what the 9000 in Brandon9000 stands for. It is the number of times that Brandon will repeat the same nonsensical mantra.


He needs to change the name, then. He needs a bigger number.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Sun 19 Mar, 2006 01:45 pm
LOL
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Magginkat
 
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Reply Sun 19 Mar, 2006 07:30 pm
snood wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
I finally figured out what the 9000 in Brandon9000 stands for. It is the number of times that Brandon will repeat the same nonsensical mantra.


He needs to change the name, then. He needs a bigger number.



He's aiming for idiot of the year award......

Dumdumdumdum...... still thinks that any one who states an opinion must answer his silly questions.

I was debating whether to leave the Dick Cheney greeting for him but then I figured he would go crying to his mommy.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Sun 19 Mar, 2006 11:18 pm
Magginkat wrote:
snood wrote:
Roxxxanne wrote:
I finally figured out what the 9000 in Brandon9000 stands for. It is the number of times that Brandon will repeat the same nonsensical mantra.


He needs to change the name, then. He needs a bigger number.



He's aiming for idiot of the year award......

Dumdumdumdum...... still thinks that any one who states an opinion must answer his silly questions.

It is, and has always been, the rule in debate to support one's assertions, and it is common, when someone makes assertions without evidence, to ask for some. One could hardly find a more common request in debating situations. My primary question of Magginkat was to provide evidence to support his/her claims. If you find that silly, it says a lot about you, but not much about anything else.

The technique by which the A2K liberals hope to counter a conservative argument is to have several people insult the poster, which also says a lot about you, but little about me or anything else.

You may as well scream through a megaphone that you can't support what you say.
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cicerone imposter
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 12:18 am
Brandon is either a comic or a sick man. He wrote:



We invaded Iraq to protect ourselves from the prospect of a Saddam Hussein armed with doomsday weapons.

FACT: BUSH LIED: The Bush administration religiously chanted the contention that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction as its basis for a war.

For example, in his address to the nation Bush said the intelligence "leaves no doubt that . . . Iraq . . . continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."


Vice President Cheney also was part of the chorus and declared that "there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

FACTS: According to the CIA's Duelfer's Report Iraq:
§ HAD NO WMD's.

§ "had no . . . strategy or plan for the revival of WMD after sanctions" ended.

§ Iraq failed "to acquire long range Iraq's nuclear program ended in 1991 following the Gulf War."

§ "Iraq unilaterally destroyed is undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter."

§ In spite of exhaustive investigation, ISG found no evidence that Iraq possessed, or was developing BW agent product systems mounted on road vehicles or railway wagons."



Brandon wrote:
We were protecting ourselves, and also requiring Hussein to comply with the surrender treaty he signed after annexing Kuwait. We were not bullying anyone. We have no expectation of anyone falling down and kissing our feet.

BUSH LIED: The Bush administration repeatedly claimed that Iraq presented an imminent threat to the US and its allies, although it would later claim:

On January 27, 2004, White House spokesman Scot McClellan claimed that the administration never said Iraq was an imminent threat. "the media have chose to use the word imminent" to describe the Iraqi threat. In a February 2004 speech at Georgetown University, CIA Director Tenet revealed that CIA "analysts never said there was an imminent threat" from Iraq before the war.

FACTS: The director of the State Department's Bureau of Intelligence & Research stated that "Iraq possessed no imminent threat to either its neighbors or to the United States."

A January 2004 report by the Army War College concluded that Iraq was not an imminent threat and characterized the war as "an unnecessary preventive war of choice against a deferred Iraq."

The Carnegie Endowment for Peace's report on WMD's in Iraq also concluded that Iraq did not pose an immediate threat to the United States or to global security.

Sources: Daily Mis-Lead 02.05.04; Rivers-Pitt - Truthout.org 07.11.03, McGovern -AlterNet 06.30.03, NBC News 07.21.03, Krugman - New York Times 07.22.03; WMD in Iraq - Carnegie Endowment for International Peace; Bounding the Global War on Terror - Army War College




Brandon wouldn't know the truth from a lie if it slapped him in the face. There's no cure for stupid.
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Brandon9000
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 06:15 am
cicerone imposter wrote:
Brandon is either a comic or a sick man.

He wrote:

We invaded Iraq to protect ourselves from the prospect of a Saddam Hussein armed with doomsday weapons.

FACT: BUSH LIED: The Bush administration religiously chanted the contention that Iraq possessed weapons of mass destruction as its basis for a war.

For example, in his address to the nation Bush said the intelligence "leaves no doubt that . . . Iraq . . . continues to possess and conceal some of the most lethal weapons ever devised."


Vice President Cheney also was part of the chorus and declared that "there is no doubt that Saddam Hussein now has weapons of mass destruction."

FACTS: According to the CIA's Duelfer's Report Iraq:
§ HAD NO WMD's.

§ "had no . . . strategy or plan for the revival of WMD after sanctions" ended.

§ Iraq failed "to acquire long range Iraq's nuclear program ended in 1991 following the Gulf War."

§ "Iraq unilaterally destroyed is undeclared chemical weapons stockpile in 1991. There are no credible indications that Baghdad resumed production of chemical munitions thereafter."

§ In spite of exhaustive investigation, ISG found no evidence that Iraq possessed, or was developing BW agent product systems mounted on road vehicles or railway wagons."

Your personal attacks on me are irrelevant and really have no valid place in a debate.

You're referring to a CIA report that came out in late 2004. The US invaded Iraq in March 2003. We know the status of Iraq's WMD programs at the time of invasion, precisely because we invaded. You have utterly failed to distinguish between Bush lying, and Bush being wrong. Hussien had indeed possessed these weapons, or else wouldn't have promised in a treaty to verifiably destroy them. The only question is how recently he possessed them and programs to develop them, not whether he did. He had promised to verifiably destroy them, and could have prevented the invasion many years earlier simply by filming their destruction and leading UN inspectors to the remains of the destroyed WMD, rather than by lying and misleading inspectors for years. Many, many people believed it was likely that instead of destroying the weapons, Hussein had merely become more adept at hiding them. The only criticism of the president that I think is correct is that he shouldn't have presented the case as certain, but he seems to have been frightened of a building future danger for the US and the world - an evil, madman armed with nukes and bioweapons.

cicerone imposter wrote:
Brandon wrote:
We were protecting ourselves, and also requiring Hussein to comply with the surrender treaty he signed after annexing Kuwait. We were not bullying anyone. We have no expectation of anyone falling down and kissing our feet.

BUSH LIED: The Bush administration repeatedly claimed that Iraq presented an imminent threat to the US and its allies, although it would later claim:

On January 27, 2004, White House spokesman Scot McClellan claimed that the administration never said Iraq was an imminent threat...

He did not. I defy you to find one single quotation in which the president claimed that the threat from Iraq was imminent. What he said was that he wouldn't allow a gathering threat to become imminent while he did nothing.


cicerone imposter wrote:
Brandon wouldn't know the truth from a lie if it slapped him in the face. There's no cure for stupid.

This does nothing to further your argument or demonstrate that your ideas are more accurate than mine.
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old europe
 
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Reply Mon 20 Mar, 2006 06:32 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
He did not. I defy you to find one single quotation in which the president claimed that the threat from Iraq was imminent. What he said was that he wouldn't allow a gathering threat to become imminent while he did nothing.


So when Scott McClellan, on 2/10/03, said that "This is about imminent threat." - he didn't actually mean that it was about an imminent threat, but rather meant that it was about a threat that shouldn't be allowed to become imminent?

How do you know, Brandon? Are you in close contact with Scott? Or are you not talking about the Bush administration, just about Bush? Well, how about this quote:

"The Iraqi regime is a threat of unique urgency."
- President Bush, 10/2/02

Well, from Brandon's mouth, this becomes

"What he said was that he wouldn't allow a gathering threat to become imminent while he did nothing."
- Brandon9000, 03/20/06
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