Roxxxanne wrote:Brandon9000 wrote:Quote:"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
--George Washington
George Washington, speech of Jan. 7, 1790 in the Boston Independent Chronicle, Jan. 14, 1790.
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Roxxxanne wrote:Quote:"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson
Thomas Jefferson in "Commonplace Book," 1774-1776, quoting from On Crimes and Punishment, by criminologist Cesare Beccaria, 1764
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Roxxxanne wrote:...Brandon, kindly prove that Washington and Jefferson actually said these things you claim they said.
In the first case, Washington said it in a speech. In the latter, Jefferson wrote it down in his personal notebook, at least suggesting approval.