Brandon9000 wrote:Quote:"A free people ought not only to be armed and disciplined, but they should have sufficient arms and ammunition to maintain a status of independence from any who might attempt to abuse them, which would include their own government."
--George Washington
Quote:"Laws that forbid the carrying of arms disarm only those who are neither inclined nor determined to commit crimes. Such laws make things worse for the assaulted and better for the assailants; they serve rather to encourage than to prevent homicides, for an unarmed man may be attacked with greater confidence than an armed man."
--Thomas Jefferson
I have spent probably hundreds of hours discussing this issue with tNRA nutjobs. The individual right to bear arms under the Second Amendment does not exist. It certainly does not exist in the Ninth Circuit. If you want to dispute this, feel free to post a thread about it.
As well, there have been dozens of phony quotes attributed to Washington and Jefferson cooked up by the gun wackjobs.
So Brandon, kindly prove that Washington and Jefferson actually said these things you claim they said.