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Victory in Iraq is OURS!!!

 
 
Bi-Polar Bear
 
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Reply Fri 24 Feb, 2006 07:35 am
Brandon9000 wrote:
Zippo wrote:
Brandon9000

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I guess those women and children were Hussein's enemies, then. Hard to distinguish between them except for the obviously trivial fact that one targets combatants with some accidental harm to civilans, as in every war in history, and the other specifically targets noncombatants including children.


Bush call's it 'Collateral Damage' why can't Hussein use that term ?

Because in Hussein's case it isn't collateral. He tried to get them. He intentionally attacked the whole town, knowing full well that the gas wouldn't exclude non-combatants, or even children. Only a fool would regard this as morally equivalent to the unintended and undesired loss of civilian life which has occurred in ever war.


If history teaches us that there are always collateral deaths of civilians when combatants are gone after in the midst of the general populace and the attacks, bombings whatever are made anyway, one can scarcely call it unintentional loss of civilian life unless one is either

A: completely uncaring of the loss

B: a complete idiot

C: both.
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edgarblythe
 
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Reply Fri 24 Feb, 2006 07:36 am
I vote for C.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Fri 24 Feb, 2006 07:52 am
blueveinedthrobber wrote:
Brandon9000 wrote:
Zippo wrote:
Brandon9000

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I guess those women and children were Hussein's enemies, then. Hard to distinguish between them except for the obviously trivial fact that one targets combatants with some accidental harm to civilans, as in every war in history, and the other specifically targets noncombatants including children.


Bush call's it 'Collateral Damage' why can't Hussein use that term ?

Because in Hussein's case it isn't collateral. He tried to get them. He intentionally attacked the whole town, knowing full well that the gas wouldn't exclude non-combatants, or even children. Only a fool would regard this as morally equivalent to the unintended and undesired loss of civilian life which has occurred in ever war.


If history teaches us that there are always collateral deaths of civilians when combatants are gone after in the midst of the general populace and the attacks, bombings whatever are made anyway, one can scarcely call it unintentional loss of civilian life unless one is either

A: completely uncaring of the loss

B: a complete idiot

C: both.


So, is it that you don't understand the word intentional? The US intends to kill terrorists, insurgents, people doing harm towards the US. That does not include civilians or people not trying to do harm towards US interests. Therefore, their deaths would be UNINTENTIONAL. That is not to say they won't be killed in some instances, but that it is indeed unintential.

Saddam on the other hand, had the intention to slaughter every single person that dared rebel against his government. He meant to wipe them ALL out so as to stop any future uprisings. His killing of women and children was intentional, because he aimed at them.
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parados
 
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Reply Fri 24 Feb, 2006 08:05 am
There is a difference between acceptable collateral and no intention at all.

The primary target might be terrorists but it is ACCEPTED that there will be collateral damage. The trade off has always been an acceptable level of collateral damage vs the possible success of taking out a primary target. When you attack a terrorist at a wedding party with a cruise missle you will have loss of life far beyond that single terrorist. The other guests might not be intentional targets but only an idiot would think they weren't targetted for death the minute that cruise missle was launched.
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