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Victory in Iraq is OURS!!!

 
 
woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:04 am
old europe wrote:
woiyo wrote:
The mayor's letter to Casey is being handed out to families at homecoming ceremonies at Fort Carson, adding a sense of "mission accomplished" to the joy returning soldiers and their families are experiencing, said McMaster's wife, Katie.


I'm glad this is adding a sense of "mission accomplished".


I'm glad US soldiers succeeded in ridding the city of Al Qaeda terrorists that had gained control because of the US invasion of Iraq, even though I find the "collateral damage" more than regrettable.


However, does that mean that the Iraqis are now better off than under Saddam?


I believe the Mayor already answered your question.
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:12 am
woiyo wrote:
old europe wrote:
However, does that mean that the Iraqis are now better off than under Saddam?


I believe the Mayor already answered your question.


Al-Jibouri? The former officer in Saddam Hussein's military?

No.

He said they were better off now than they were with the terrorists in control of the city.

He didn't say they were better off now than under Saddam.


(Reading comprehension, woiyo. Reading comprehension.)
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:13 am
woiyo wrote:
old europe wrote:
woiyo wrote:
The mayor's letter to Casey is being handed out to families at homecoming ceremonies at Fort Carson, adding a sense of "mission accomplished" to the joy returning soldiers and their families are experiencing, said McMaster's wife, Katie.


I'm glad this is adding a sense of "mission accomplished".


I'm glad US soldiers succeeded in ridding the city of Al Qaeda terrorists that had gained control because of the US invasion of Iraq, even though I find the "collateral damage" more than regrettable.


However, does that mean that the Iraqis are now better off than under Saddam?


I believe the Mayor already answered your question.



How does that answer the question. He was thanking the military for ridding the city of Al Qaeda terrorists that would never have been there save the Bush war.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:17 am
Yes, they had free torture, free rape, free complete oppression of the majority of the citizens and all the fear they could possibly want!

They had free schools that taught them Saddam was a true hero. They had free health care to fix the broken bones Saddam's roaming thugs handed out and to repair the stubs of limbs removed. People were free to move into the homes of those that "disappeared". What a glorious country Iraq was under Saddam's reign. Makes my wonder why you didn't move to that Utopia on the Tigris.
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Zippo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:19 am
woiyo wrote:
WASHINGTON — An Iraqi mayor has written a dramatic letter to the commander of coalition forces, praising U.S. troops as "lion hearts" and "knights" for liberating his city from al Qaeda terrorists.
The emotional letter from gallant Tal' Afar Mayor Najim Abdullah Abid Al-Jibouri to Gen. George Casey is circulating among military families over the Internet and has created a surge of pride in troops.

Al-Jibouri's letter calls soldiers of the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, who carried out recent anti-terrorist operations in Tal' Afar "lion hearts," who "bristle with the confidence of knights in a bygone era."

He said the troops transformed his western Iraqi city from a "ghost town, in which terrorists spread death and destruction, into a secure city flourishing with life."

Al-Jibouri also offered special words to the families of the 39 Americans who paid the ultimate sacrifice in the battle to save his city. "To the families of those who have given their holy blood for our land, we all bow to you in reverence for the souls of your loved ones," he wrote.

"We see them in the smile of every child, and in every flower growing in this land."




The letter is having a profound impact on those who fought in Tal' Afar.

Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the regiment's 4,700 soldiers, told The Post in an e-mail from Iraq: "It is a moving tribute to our courageous, disciplined, tough and compassionate troopers.

"I think it is easy for people to understand the sacrifices that come with military service, but more difficult to understand the intangible rewards," he added.

Al-Jibouri is a Sunni Arab and a former officer in Saddam Hussein's military who was recently brought to the area from another part of the country by the new Iraqi government.

Over the summer and fall, he worked side by side with McMaster on Operation Restore Rights, a military campaign that targeted Abu Musab al-Zarqawi's al Qaeda in Iraq.

The group used the city of 250,000 located 40 miles from the Syrian border as its epicenter for smuggling money, material and suicide bombers.

"Our city was the main base of operations for . . . Zarqawi. The city was completely held hostage by his henchmen . . . Our streets were silent and no one dared to walk them," al-Jibouri wrote in the letter.

"Their savagery reached such a level that they stuffed the corpses of children with explosives and tossed them into the streets in order to kill grieving parents attempting to retrieve . . . their young," he added.

Working closely with tribal leaders and Iraqi army recruits, the 3rd Cavalry evacuated civilians in September and carried out precision block-by-block, house-by-house operations in a textbook campaign that routed the terrorists while limiting the kind of collateral damage that plagued other U.S. military operations in cities like Fallujah.

While there are still terrorist attacks in the city, the numbers are way down and schools are open, police stations have been rebuilt and a municipal government is starting to function, the military says.

The regiment, which also fought in the invasion of Iraq in 2003, is now in the process of redeploying back to Fort Carson, Colo., after its second yearlong stint in Iraq.


The mayor's letter to Casey is being handed out to families at homecoming ceremonies at Fort Carson, adding a sense of "mission accomplished" to the joy returning soldiers and their families are experiencing, said McMaster's wife, Katie.

"We are all thrilled about this letter and so very proud of our soldiers," Mrs. McMaster told The Post.


Laughing Keep trying...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/3190934.stm
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NickFun
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:21 am
And look at all the wonderful things we have done in Fauuja alone!

http://dahrjamailiraq.com/gallery/view_album.php?set_albumName=album28&page=1

Yep. We sure have made this better, eh?
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:21 am
That is old news from 2003 Zippo. Not the one Woiyo has quoted.
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:23 am



Zippo, while I find the idea of the US army writing fake letters, intended for publication in US newspapers, quite troubling, you have to take into account that the letter woiyo quoted was NOT written by an US soldier, but rather by a former officer in Saddam's army....
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:25 am
Zippo wrote:


OCTOBER 13, 2003!!!!!! You're a clown!!! Razz Laughing Razz Laughing Razz
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woiyo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:26 am
old europe wrote:



Zippo, while I find the idea of the US army writing fake letters, intended for publication in US newspapers, quite troubling, you have to take into account that the letter woiyo quoted was NOT written by an US soldier, but rather by a former officer in Saddam's army....


Who is NOW the Mayor... Go back to sleep!!
Laughing Laughing
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old europe
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:35 am
woiyo wrote:
old europe wrote:



Zippo, while I find the idea of the US army writing fake letters, intended for publication in US newspapers, quite troubling, you have to take into account that the letter woiyo quoted was NOT written by an US soldier, but rather by a former officer in Saddam's army....


Who is NOW the Mayor... Go back to sleep!!
Laughing Laughing



I don't know who is NOW the Mayor. But, according to your article, the letter was written by Al-Jibouri, who was THEN the Mayor, it seems.

From your post:

woiyo wrote:
from gallant Tal' Afar Mayor Najim Abdullah Abid Al-Jibouri to Gen. George Casey is circulating among military families over the Internet and has created a surge of pride in troops.

Al-Jibouri's letter calls soldiers of the 3rd Cavalry Regiment, who carried out recent anti-terrorist operations in Tal' Afar "lion hearts," who "bristle with the confidence of knights in a bygone era."

He said the troops transformed his western Iraqi city from a "ghost town, in which terrorists spread death and destruction, into a secure city flourishing with life."

Al-Jibouri also offered special words to the families of the 39 Americans who paid the ultimate sacrifice in the battle to save his city. "To the families of those who have given their holy blood for our land, we all bow to you in reverence for the souls of your loved ones," he wrote.

"We see them in the smile of every child, and in every flower growing in this land."




The letter is having a profound impact on those who fought in Tal' Afar.

Col. H.R. McMaster, commander of the regiment's 4,700 soldiers, told The Post in an e-mail from Iraq: "It is a moving tribute to our courageous, disciplined, tough and compassionate troopers.

"I think it is easy for people to understand the sacrifices that come with military service, but more difficult to understand the intangible rewards," he added.

Al-Jibouri is a Sunni Arab and a former officer in Saddam Hussein's military who was recently brought to the area from another part of the country by the new Iraqi government.

[...]



Say, woiyo, are you drinking?
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Walter Hinteler
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:39 am
Quote:
Officers who participated in the effort to clear Tal Afar of insurgents note that an unknown number of fighters escaped to outlying areas and are likely resting up for what could be another surge in attacks. As the 3rd ACR prepares to end its deployment in the coming weeks and return to the United States, soldiers with the 1st Armored Division are scheduled to replace them, and could find themselves in a very different environment.

source: Stars and Stripes February 5, 2006
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NickFun
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:43 am
I can say one thing for sure. This war has proven how weak our military really is. It has taken years and hundreds of billions to get Iraq into the sad state of affairs it's in now. Could you imagine if we tried to fight a conventional war against, say, China? Maybe war is not the answer?
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Zippo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:53 am
woiyo, eat this : Laughing

Quote:
The propaganda we pass off as news around the world

A British government-funded fake TV news service allows mild criticism of the US - all the better to support it

David Miller
Wednesday February 15, 2006
The Guardian


A succession of scandals in the US has revealed widespread government funding of PR agencies to produce "fake news". Actors take the place of journalists and the "news" is broadcast as if it were genuine. The same practice has been adopted in Iraq, where newspapers have been paid to insert copy. These stories have raised the usual eyebrows in the UK about the pitiful quality of US democracy. Things are better here, we imply. We have a prime minister who claimed in 2004 that "the values that drive our actions abroad are the same values of progress and justice that drive us at home". Yet in 2002 the government launched a littleknown television propaganda service that seems to mimic the US government's deceptive approach to fake news.

Gardian



I have officially bitch slapped ya! Laughing
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 10:58 am
Don't have the article. Rumsfeld the other day admitted that unbeknownst [ BS] to him we are still paying for good news stories in and on Iraq.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 11:12 am
It's a good thing we have all the nattering nabobs that we do. Itr allows me not to worry about the bad things because I know they are. My life is better because I can transfer all my negative energy off on the nabobs and they... well, they do whatever it is they do with it.

Imagine how much worse my life would be if someone posted a good news story and 7 people didn't immediately jump in with all the negatives associated with that story.
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 11:13 am
NickFun wrote:
I can say one thing for sure. This war has proven how weak our military really is. It has taken years and hundreds of billions to get Iraq into the sad state of affairs it's in now. Could you imagine if we tried to fight a conventional war against, say, China? Maybe war is not the answer?


This is not logical. Our armies excel at war and has no equal. It's peace the military isn't built for, so maybe peace isn't the answer?
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au1929
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 11:21 am
McGentrix wrote:
NickFun wrote:
I can say one thing for sure. This war has proven how weak our military really is. It has taken years and hundreds of billions to get Iraq into the sad state of affairs it's in now. Could you imagine if we tried to fight a conventional war against, say, China? Maybe war is not the answer?


This is not logical. Our armies excel at war and has no equal. It's peace the military isn't built for, so maybe peace isn't the answer?



OK tell me if peace is not the answer. What the hell are we fighting for?
Has Bush plunged us into a 100 year war.
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Zippo
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 11:27 am
http://prorev.com/BUSHONPHONE.jpg

EVERYTHING'S UNDER CONTROL
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McGentrix
 
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Reply Wed 22 Feb, 2006 11:40 am
Funny. I wonder why you never saw images of Saddam being photoshopped by those free iraqis before the evil US imperialists came and ruined everyones lives.
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